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The Clinton/Bush legacy of financial terrorism on America

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:41:52 UT

October 22, 2009

The Clinton/Bush legacy of financial terrorism on America

By W. Christopher Epler (Bill)

The American government no longer needs to slaughter union
demonstrators or assassinate elected liberal officials or resort to
the type of murderous terrorism it inflicts on probably most other

boehner admits Obama is not a socialist

pcdr...@gmail.com (jose-uno) — Tue, 09 Sep 2009 14:20:15 UT

Backed Into A Corner, Boehner Admits That Obama Is Not A Socialist
»_
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RNC Chairman Michael Steele recently sent out a fundraising letter
saying
that President Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress are attempting
a “
_socialist power grab_

Re: Lies Of Texas

predato...@aol.com — Tue, 09 Sep 2009 08:17:56 UT

In a message dated 9/7/2009 11:05:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
Jose! Why are you posting in this group? The group has moved to
another location.
It has?

Re: Lies Of Texas

kaykay...@gmail.com (Kay) — Tue, 09 Sep 2009 04:05:39 UT

Jose! Why are you posting in this group? The group has moved to
another location.

Lies Of Texas

p...@wtxs.net (jose-uno) — Tue, 09 Sep 2009 03:39:37 UT

James Moore September 4, 2009 03:09 PM

The Lies of Texas Are Upon You

A friend called to talk about his daughter being caught in the middle
of one of the kinds of controversies that only happen in Texas. His
daughter's teacher had sent an email that her school was not going to
show the president's national address to students in their school. My

Health Care Myths

p...@wtxs.net (jose-uno) — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:00:33 UT

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August 20, 2009 7:25 am ET — 156 Comments
Media Matters for America identifies and debunks 14 myths and
falsehoods surrounding the health care reform debate.
MYTH 1: There is no health care crisis
CLAIM: The health care system currently works fine, and only a

Health car myths

p...@wtxs.net (jose-uno) — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 01:56:23 UT

Myths and falsehoods about health care reform
August 20, 2009 7:25 am ET — 156 Comments
Media Matters for America identifies and debunks 14 myths and
falsehoods surrounding the health care reform debate.
MYTH 1: There is no health care crisis
CLAIM: The health care system currently works fine, and only a

Another myth exposed

p...@wtxs.net (jose-uno) — Fri, 08 Aug 2009 17:02:31 UT

More options Aug 21, 11:46 am

Local: Fri, Aug 21 2009 11:46 am

".....This month my CEPR (Center for Economic and Policy Research)
colleagues John Schmitt and Nathan Lane showed that the United States
is not the nation of small businesses that it is regularly dressed up
to be for electoral campaign speeches and editorials. If we look at

Lunatics no longer on the fringe

p...@wtxs.net (jose-uno) — Fri, 08 Aug 2009 03:22:30 UT

Lunatics no longer on the fringe
Published: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:59 AM CDT
Somebody's going to have to teach the Republican leadership that
bipartisan isn't a synonym for weak. That somebody may have to be
Barack Obama. The success of his presidency may depend upon it. No
professorial lectures, please. It's not possible to reason with people

On the efficacy of prayer, torture and empire

photo...@hamiltongirls.com (C Hamilton) — Sat, 05 May 2009 02:22:53 UT

Efficacy is the capacity to produce an effect. Efficacy measures this
capacity under ideal conditions. It is these conditions that distinguish
efficacy from the related concept of effectiveness, which relates to
change under real-life conditions.
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Efficacy: the capacity for producing a desired result or effect;

A time for reflection, or a return to the rule of law? Time for accountability...

photo...@hamiltongirls.com (C Hamilton) — Mon, 04 Apr 2009 00:31:40 UT

Is there a statute of limitations for unnecessary wars of choice?
War does not prove who was right or wrong, only who is left
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"Humor is just another defense against the universe."
-- Mel Brooks
"The secret of a good sermon is to have a good beginning

Re: OBAMA POSITIONING FOR BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:24:17 UT

Bill you are sooooo full of shit.............."remember" I voted
independent

Peace,
Doc

Re: OBAMA POSITIONING FOR BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Fri, 04 Apr 2009 05:52:06 UT

You like him he's your man......remember? He's so much better than
Bush....right?

I been trying to tell you that this guy is a fraud, but all you do is
bitch about Bush and the Republicans.

[link]

Bill

OBAMA POSITIONING FOR BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Fri, 04 Apr 2009 03:26:26 UT

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OBAMA POSITIONING FOR BACK DOOR GUN CONTROL

By Chuck Baldwin
April 24, 2009
NewsWithViews.com

On his recent trip to Central America, President Barack Obama did more
than cozy up to Marxist dictators; he also signed onto an
international treaty that could, in effect, be used as backdoor gun

Re: Our Problem is Immorality

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 17:56:52 UT

Sorry Bean=Beam: bliblical

Re: Political Lounge to End

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 15:27:25 UT

Feel free to point out where I personally insulted you other than
calling you out for intentionally avoiding topics.

Your subjective use of the words personal insult and attack are far
from accurate.

Bill

Re: Obama attempting to force a Trojan Horse on to the EU. Why?

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 06:15:16 UT

Wars thrive on vengeance and many who would be tolerant are tricked
into their vengeful positions they are falsely led to believe and or
brainwashed.!

Peace,
Doc

Re: Obama attempting to force a Trojan Horse on to the EU. Why?

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 01:23:23 UT

Last report I saw, was that it remains a crime to report on the
incident, as is the situation for the Kurds. The Turks have been able
to live in an Islamic culture for close to a thousand years. There are
almost as many sects of Islam, as there are of Protestant
Christianity. Each has a different approach to the comprehension of

Re: Our Problem is Immorality

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 00:22:02 UT

As some of the white people of South Africa would tell you, they did
have a very comfortable life. the difficulty arrose because a large
portion of the population was denied its fair share of the profits of
the nation. It turned out that many ended up living in a state of
fear, as they came to understand that their way of life was not

Re: America's War in Mexico

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 00:14:01 UT

Although even Thomas More, did not entirely believe that Utopia could
ever truly exist. What he did do was enumerate a number of truths,
which have not really changed in the five hundred years since he first
described the place. The cause of human misery remains the love of
'gold' and the warfare that results from the attempts of some to get

Re: Our Problem is Immorality

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 21:29:45 UT

The trouble is most people are in denial of "the bean in their own
eye."

Re: Obama attempting to force a Trojan Horse on to the EU. Why?

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 21:22:54 UT

Gordon Nikel is naive about Islam.

Re: Political Lounge to End

mbp...@gmail.com (JunkReader) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 15:47:21 UT

There, you can't see that you are personal again? What do you want to
discuss?

Re: Political Lounge to End

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 15:01:07 UT

You see that's the thing, you take things personally.

You're that way about any topic that it unflattering about the UK, but
yet you don't hold back unloading on other countries and you expect
others to respond.

You don't have the temperament to discuss threads that may be critical
of British leaders or policies, you run from discussing these things

Re: Obama attempting to force a Trojan Horse on to the EU. Why?

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 12:12:28 UT

Everyone has the opinions and or vision.

[link]

Peace,
Doc

Re: America's War in Mexico

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 12:07:12 UT

The government has shielded us from the rightful truths and
philosophies which would lead us to understanding ourselves and how
and why we got here as the truth of history would provide our culture
with the information that could and would lead us to enlightenment.
But alas this would destroy their control over us. "They" have people

Re: Political Lounge to End

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 08:52:50 UT

I relish difficult or unpleasant subjects provided they are facts and
not meant as a personal insult.

Re: Political Lounge to End

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Tue, 04 Apr 2009 16:05:31 UT

Sometimes we have to discuss things that we may not find pleasant.

Bill

Re: America's War in Mexico

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Mon, 04 Apr 2009 17:31:42 UT

In peace time, people tend to focus their attention on the national
government... and on the idea that not all who live in the richest
country on earth..... "babes wrapt in misery" still exist. Perhaps it
is no longer the British empire, but the empire that was spawned by
them,,,, still very little change inthe affairs of (hu)man beings.

Re: Political Lounge to End

kaykay...@gmail.com (Kay) — Mon, 04 Apr 2009 10:40:53 UT

And off topic we go, guys.

Re: Obama attempting to force a Trojan Horse on to the EU. Why?

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Mon, 04 Apr 2009 10:09:11 UT

I assume you mean "compensation" or "acknowledgement"? I believe
Turkey want to wipe the slate clean regarding the genocide of Armenia
in order to portray a more civilised side of Islamic Turkey. But of
course that is impossible because either you submit to the Will of
Allah are are Muslim or you are not a Muslim. There is no half-way

Re: Political Lounge to End

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Mon, 04 Apr 2009 08:43:17 UT

Ignoring is another thing altogether. When something is not worth
arguing about why argue especially if it is going to lead to nothing?

Re: Political Lounge to End

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Mon, 04 Apr 2009 01:05:26 UT

elle, I know for a fact that if a topic pisses you off (angers you)
you will simply ignore it.

Bill

Re: Political Lounge to End

mbp...@gmail.com (elle) — Sun, 04 Apr 2009 19:46:50 UT

Bill, that is not accurate. My feathers are never ruffled when the
discussion stays on topic. But I am not happy with it is "ad hominem."
or unwarranted attacks that are off-topic.

Re: Obama attempting to force a Trojan Horse on to the EU. Why?

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Sun, 04 Apr 2009 16:33:46 UT

Before any one gets too excited about the Turks, it is necessary to a
number of impertinent questions, the first being about the Kurds, and
Kurdistan, which would claim some Turkish land. Then there is also the
issue of the Armenian genocide of 1917, which to date Turkey has not
acknowledged, much less offered some sort of competition to the

Re: Political Lounge to End

predato...@aol.com — Sun, 04 Apr 2009 10:36:50 UT

In a message dated 4/11/2009 6:08:08 PM Central Daylight Time,
Well if you really like it, I suppose I could leave it up. I just
wish that you would give the New Group a chance.
Bill
Leave it up.
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Re: Political Lounge to End

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:12:59 UT

Yeah but we need A few more active participants. In other words we
need 3, 4, to 5 people weighing on a threaded discussion instead of
two throwing everything at each other.

I can't count on elle to jump in because he gets his feathers ruffled
when someone disagrees with him.

Please just try the new group if you would.

Re: Political Lounge to End

sean_sann...@yahoo.com (Bill) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:07:49 UT

Well if you really like it, I suppose I could leave it up. I just
wish that you would give the New Group a chance.

Bill

Re: Our Problem is Immorality

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:06:39 UT

Greatness, and morality are the products of individuals, who go
against the prevailing 'truths'. Many never become wealthy, and many
die in obscurity. Like the ancient Hebrews, we execute our prophets.
We may not behead them, or nail them to trees, but all too often they
are belittled or ignored, at least until they wander away, in despair.

Re: Political Lounge to End

gole...@gmail.com (Golem) — Fri, 04 Apr 2009 15:31:31 UT

Sorry to hear that. I LIKE slow moving forums. They give you a
chance to take your time responding to a thread without everybody
forgetting what the discussion was about.

Fast paced forums have their attractive: they're good when you have a
couple of hours to burn and you want fast paced discussions.

Re: America's War in Mexico

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Fri, 04 Apr 2009 13:14:54 UT

But "terrorists" and or "terrorism" fits the agenda of the powers that
be as it relates to emergency rule. It doesn't make any difference as
long as we are giving up our liberty to allow them to usurp them. The
more "emergencies" the more control we oblige them, cowardly being the
correct word that big brother will lay it on thick so a dependent,

Re: Political Lounge to End

kaykay...@gmail.com (Kay) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 16:36:59 UT

You can join the new group that Bill invited us to -
"Thank You
Bill
Please check out and give this new news group a chance. "
[link]

Re: Political Lounge to End

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 16:32:49 UT

No doubt, many of us will be able to find each other again somewhere
in the ether, and possibly we will want to communicate. I will miss
this board... we have mostly been able to be civil... to relative
strangers.

Re: America's War in Mexico

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 16:30:15 UT

Perhaps the brits learned, and learned the hard way that when a
country is attacked, terrorism becomes another name for guerilla
warfare. This is particularly likely if the agressor nation can
technically overpower the defence capabilities of the defender...
patriotism can also be part of an underground war.

Re: City of Las Vegas Tanks: Thank You Obama

mzeba...@gmail.com (margareth) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 16:24:27 UT

What do you mean by affordable. The very problem arose because people
were willing to pay more than they could afford for housing... In fact
many were paying less than the interest on the mortgage....I have no
idea what they were doing to maintain the house, perhaps it is sweat
equity? Undoubtedly there will be a few squatters that move into the

Re: Political Lounge to End

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 05:47:08 UT

elle thanks for that suggestion; very much!

Peace,
Doc

Re: Political Lounge to End

dokholli...@bellsouth.net (Doc Holliday) — Thu, 04 Apr 2009 05:46:27 UT

I value everyone's truths and I know I've been wrong many times. I
honors me to be able to associate with people who have beliefs that
they hold dearly and faith in their truths the honor and convictions
that seems to never die. I sided with Voltaire and Jefferson on much
of my late analogies and that row is a hard row to hoe. I can't insult

Re: Political Lounge to End

kaykay...@gmail.com (Kay) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 20:13:00 UT

It should at least be closed off to new membership - otherwise it will be
full of spam and porn in no time.
You could also close it to posting, so the archives sit here available
for reading - but no more posting and no more need to manage it.

Re: The left now recognizes that the attack on Rush has turned out to be a massive political misjudgment

gole...@gmail.com (Golem) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 18:06:08 UT

Huh?

Because his audience grew?

Do you even understand what the game is, Bill? Who CARES what
Limbaugh's audience is? The thing is that pointing out that an
obvious lunatic like Rush is the LEADER of the Republican Party will
make many many sensible Republicans run away from the "Party of No"

Re: Obama Abroad

gole...@gmail.com (Golem) — Wed, 04 Apr 2009 17:44:48 UT

I have been pretty busy lately, but I see right-wingers are still
uncomfortable with people saying the truth. That's why right-wing
radio is so popular. Because they give extremist right-wingers
exactly what they want: lies!

They tell them that America invading a country that had neither
attacked us nor posed any threat to us is not "arrogant". That