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t.dempsey@epiphanycapital .co.uk  
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 More options 21 Oct, 10:44
From: "t.demp...@epiphanycapital.co.uk" <welovethemar...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:44:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed 21 Oct 2009 10:44
Subject: OpenCoffee Manchester October
Guys,

OpenCoffee is back with a bang on Tuesday 27th October from 10am -
12pm at Urbis. Previous meet-ups have drawn in over 60 people.

Besides the coffee, Urbis also provide free WiFi so if you want to
demo then just bring your laptop

Facebook event:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=260307295653#/event.php?eid=295...

See you on the 27th.

Thanks

Tim Dempsey
t.demp...@epiphanycapital.co.uk
www.epiphanycapital.co.uk
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Ian M  
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 More options 21 Oct, 12:18
From: Ian M <he...@ianmoss.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:18:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed 21 Oct 2009 12:18
Subject: Re: OpenCoffee Manchester October
Glad this is still going Tim.

Whatever happend to the voting for your favourite local startup
idea? / Startup Tuesday was it?
Sure some variant of that could be made to work & be fun / good
promotion for those startups involved :)

Ian


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Discussion subject changed to "Grouping arrays together to the make one full one, sort of, kinda.." by Alex Barlow
Alex Barlow  
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 More options 21 Oct, 14:51
From: Alex Barlow <alexbarlo...@me.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:51:47 +0100
Local: Wed 21 Oct 2009 14:51
Subject: Grouping arrays together to the make one full one, sort of, kinda..
Ok guys, heres something I came across today which I have an idea of  
what I could do, but im sure theres an easier way..

I have an ActiveRecord class called Releases and one called Albums, im  
merging to two tables together to a)save space and b)speed up sql  
called because theres no joins.

Here a show of the releases table (postgres if your interested)  
showing all with the album_id 46.

http://arbarlow.s3.amazonaws.com/nwrug.png

I have an Album that has an id 46 and i want to now add the  
country_id, label_id and realease_date to it, but since theres more  
than one release row, i need to find a way to condense the array  the  
find the most common values and then save that to the Album table.

Does this seem like a good idea or am I thinking to hard here?

Cheers, Alex


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Matt Roberts  
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 More options 22 Oct, 09:01
From: Matt Roberts <roberts.mattrobe...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:01:36 +0100
Local: Thurs 22 Oct 2009 09:01
Subject: Re: [NWRUG] Grouping arrays together to the make one full one, sort of, kinda..

I might be being a bit thick, but I don't get why you're doing this. Albumns
have 1 or more releases, so the 2 tables you have currently makes perfect
sense to me - its exactly how I'd model it. So you want to merge the 2
tables together into one table that has one entry per albumn, but say a
comma-seperated list of releases, is that what you're thinking? Thats going
to make working with the table quite tricky right?

I'm not sure how much space you'd save, I don't see a massive saving here.
And I don't think that performance should be a problem with these 2 tables
either, unless you have some kind of nested iteration through albumns thats
taking ages (and if so can you re-design you're UI to fix this issue?)

Perhaps a de-normalised view over these 2 tables would help you out?

Just my 2p worth :)

Matt

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Will Jessop  
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 More options 22 Oct, 10:08
From: Will Jessop <w...@willj.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:08:39 +0100
Local: Thurs 22 Oct 2009 10:08
Subject: Re: [NWRUG] Re: Grouping arrays together to the make one full one, sort of, kinda..
Replying to Matt as I don't have the original email.

Just out of interest, how big are the tables, and how much space do  
they take up? Can you show us an 'explain analyse' of a query that  
would be optimised by this?

I'd expect that lookups on the tables would all use indexes so like  
Matt I am struggling to understand exactly how this will help.

Will.

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Alex Barlow <alexbarlo...@me.com>  
> wrote:

> I have an ActiveRecord class called Releases and one called Albums, im
> merging to two tables together to a)save space and b)speed up sql
> called because theres no joins.

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Alex Barlow  
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 More options 22 Oct, 10:55
From: Alex Barlow <alexbarlo...@me.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:55:52 +0100
Local: Thurs 22 Oct 2009 10:55
Subject: Re: [NWRUG] Re: Grouping arrays together to the make one full one, sort of, kinda..
The database as its stands it about 5GB, so a query on tracks was  
searching through just over 8 million records, on mysql this took  
about 7.5 seconds (without any performance playing) and postgres about  
2 seconds.

Im running postgres with keys, indexing and the system also uses  
memcache so the calls are down to about 30ms

The problem in trying to crush is for one page the sql looking through  
4 tables. I could use ajax of course..

Thinking about it I kind of agree about the 'it should have that'  
statement, so ill include that and play about with that.

On 22 Oct 2009, at 10:08, Will Jessop wrote:


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