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  <title type="text">misc.consumers Google Group</title>
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  Consumer interests, product reviews, etc.
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  <updated>2008-07-25T11:32:25Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>elise d faber</name>
  <email>ediefa...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T11:32:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/c09777ed837c7055/78de855a4a15912d?show_docid=78de855a4a15912d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/c09777ed837c7055/78de855a4a15912d?show_docid=78de855a4a15912d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: clothes washers and dryers for older units with &quot;weak&quot; plumbing?</title>
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  On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:43:07 -0700 (PDT), CJ &lt;br&gt; the problem seems to be the detergent suds. in new york city, people &lt;br&gt; pay over a million dollars for a coop or condo apartment which won&#39;t &lt;br&gt; let them have a washer. dryers ore ok but you either need 220 volt &lt;br&gt; current or a gas hookup. &lt;br&gt; the problem here is the drain pipes which are too small to handle the
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Shawn Hirn</name>
  <email>s...@comcast.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T10:46:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/852898ff91932b38?show_docid=852898ff91932b38</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/852898ff91932b38?show_docid=852898ff91932b38"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Online Payments</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;d8rh84tt768v61kiogh8qmvb128e9 2s...@4ax.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; The top reasons are conveniences and low overhead cost. If PayPal was as &lt;br&gt; bad as some claim, it would be out of business, as would eBay. The &lt;br&gt; reality is, they both prosper because they provide services that people &lt;br&gt; want and they do it reasonably well.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ricok987</name>
  <email>ricok...@optonline.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T10:15:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/2fc77b20de1d28fd?show_docid=2fc77b20de1d28fd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/2fc77b20de1d28fd?show_docid=2fc77b20de1d28fd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Online Payments</title>
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  Sellers use Paypal for business transactions to avoid having to pay charges &lt;br&gt; and fees to banks for accounts that allow acceptance of credit cards. These &lt;br&gt; fees typically run 2-4 % of the total transaction (including taxes, and &lt;br&gt; shipping). That is why some gas stations charge more for credit than cash
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rod Speed</name>
  <email>rod.speed....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T09:35:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/d78e02a896fdd96c?show_docid=d78e02a896fdd96c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/d78e02a896fdd96c?show_docid=d78e02a896fdd96c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Online Payments</title>
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  Jim &amp;lt;wvzub...@gfa.pp&amp;gt; wrote &lt;br&gt; Yeah, me too. &lt;br&gt; I use Roboform to enter it for me, but prefer the convenience of not having to bother. &lt;br&gt; Thats going a bit far given google and wikipedia etc. &lt;br&gt; Dunno, its arguable that ebay had done that. &lt;br&gt; Yep, I hardly ever by anything computer component wise locally, just because I can
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jim</name>
  <email>wvzub...@gfa.pp</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T07:38:11Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/60627b8293594409?show_docid=60627b8293594409</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/e45f53f198a47dcd/60627b8293594409?show_docid=60627b8293594409"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Online Payments</title>
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  On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:41:56 +1000, &amp;quot;Rod Speed&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; I find it VERY convenient. Of real convenience when buying is that it &lt;br&gt; provides your address without needing any further input, so cuts out &lt;br&gt; the risk of typing some crook information. &lt;br&gt; Paypal may well be the single best thing that has happened to the &lt;br&gt; internet, it has provided the spark that may kick online trading to a
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mike</name>
  <email>rnr_construct...@comcast.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T06:36:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/85c9f03198dca4cb/e0652600c8ee7613?show_docid=e0652600c8ee7613</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/85c9f03198dca4cb/e0652600c8ee7613?show_docid=e0652600c8ee7613"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Extra for the Extras</title>
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  Gas comes from Oil. Refineries and Oil wells were invented &lt;br&gt; And &lt;br&gt; The crispy taco was discovered when someone overcooked a corn tortilla.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mike</name>
  <email>rnr_construct...@comcast.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T06:18:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/85c9f03198dca4cb/6655b4684181ee0e?show_docid=6655b4684181ee0e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/85c9f03198dca4cb/6655b4684181ee0e?show_docid=6655b4684181ee0e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Extra for the Extras</title>
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  Saucrete would be more like it &lt;br&gt; that Bitch is thick as Concrete
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  <author>
  <name>alexy</name>
  <email>nos...@asbry.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T05:19:06Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/454eaa4809a2c374?show_docid=454eaa4809a2c374</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/454eaa4809a2c374?show_docid=454eaa4809a2c374"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bloomberg: U.S. stock futures could fall another 30%. Unprecedented loss of personal wealth.</title>
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  No. I&#39;ve never felt it was unreliable, and this calculation does not &lt;br&gt; change that.
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  <author>
  <email>retrogro...@comcast.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T05:09:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/84974262cccb400e?show_docid=84974262cccb400e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/84974262cccb400e?show_docid=84974262cccb400e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bloomberg: U.S. stock futures could fall another 30%. Unprecedented loss of personal wealth.</title>
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  So social security is looking a bit more reliable?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>CJ</name>
  <email>charlesjones...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T03:43:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/c09777ed837c7055/3ae5823dd5075813?show_docid=3ae5823dd5075813</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/c09777ed837c7055/3ae5823dd5075813?show_docid=3ae5823dd5075813"/>
  <title type="text">clothes washers and dryers for older units with &quot;weak&quot; plumbing?</title>
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  I live in a relatively old condo complex, built in the 1960’s or &lt;br&gt; 1970’s, and not the fanciest place around. One issue is that we can’t &lt;br&gt; have clothes washers or dryers in the units because (we are told) the &lt;br&gt; plumbing can’t handle it (and maybe the ventilation system, I&#39;m not &lt;br&gt; sure if that&#39;s an issue too). I don’t know the technical details of
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>alexy</name>
  <email>nos...@asbry.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T03:31:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/7dd5f800fdc73030?show_docid=7dd5f800fdc73030</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/7dd5f800fdc73030?show_docid=7dd5f800fdc73030"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bloomberg: U.S. stock futures could fall another 30%. Unprecedented loss of personal wealth.</title>
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  Okay, got a chance to check it out, and confirmed my gut feeling. &lt;br&gt; First of all, I agree with your calculation of 41.53 as the &lt;br&gt; accumulated value in the stock scenario. &lt;br&gt; As I mentioned before, you need to recognize that the $1s are put in &lt;br&gt; at the beginning of the period when you are calculating the IRR. Doing
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>alexy</name>
  <email>nos...@asbry.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T02:28:26Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/903986d41ce6b727?show_docid=903986d41ce6b727</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/903986d41ce6b727?show_docid=903986d41ce6b727"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bloomberg: U.S. stock futures could fall another 30%. Unprecedented loss of personal wealth.</title>
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  Reserving judgement on that one. Still looks suspicious to me, but I &lt;br&gt; haven&#39;t checked it out.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jeff Dege</name>
  <email>jd...@jdege.visi.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T02:15:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/8ab62df4dfef1439?show_docid=8ab62df4dfef1439</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/02aac7acdbf6957f/8ab62df4dfef1439?show_docid=8ab62df4dfef1439"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bloomberg: U.S. stock futures could fall another 30%. Unprecedented loss of personal wealth.</title>
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  Yep. My mistake again. Still, the first set of numbers did use a fixed &lt;br&gt; $1/year, and that showed a 3% gain over inflation. Any quibbles with &lt;br&gt; that?
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Triple</name>
  <email>rhag...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T02:02:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/09f601cf5d7e7783/a3c5f3e22a8d1ba2?show_docid=a3c5f3e22a8d1ba2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/09f601cf5d7e7783/a3c5f3e22a8d1ba2?show_docid=a3c5f3e22a8d1ba2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Crummy COMCAST! No Service, No Response! But The Bills Keep Coming!</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Don&#39;t you love how the Comcast shills come out on this group? &lt;br&gt; Oh and for those of you that though I was &#39;confused&#39; on my last rant about &lt;br&gt; Comcast. After six months of fighting them for sending me to collections &lt;br&gt; over $175 I do not owe, I finally received a refund check. They owed me $22 &lt;br&gt; the whole time.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>www.urbanhotsale.net</name>
  <email>cnshoe...@yahoo.com.cn</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-25T01:10:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/afb7178147358afe/a6a19fd632d51764?show_docid=a6a19fd632d51764</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/afb7178147358afe/a6a19fd632d51764?show_docid=a6a19fd632d51764"/>
  <title type="text">CHINA SUPPLIERS NIKE AIR JORDAN 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 11 13 23 SHOES,UGG BOOTS</title>
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