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Craig Cockburn  
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 More options 19 Aug 1993, 00:25
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: lss...@department-computer-studies.napier.ac.uk (Craig Cockburn)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 13:46:06 +0000
Local: Tues 17 Aug 1993 14:46
Subject: Supermarkets, empty shelves and Moscow Syndrome
All,
        Ever been to a big supermarket and got fed up because they were out
        of stock of something (usually bread, fruit or vegetables) ?

        I've been getting progressively fed up with going out to do the
        messages (=shopping) and only coming back with half the things I
        need because the supermarket was out of stock. In particular, I buy a
        lot of fruit and veg and the problem is particularly acute with
        these items. It wouldn't be any problem at all if I was living on
        the traditional Scottish diet of sweets, biscuits and crisps as can
        be seen by attending any William Low's or Presto's who have 1/4 of their
        stores devoted to such non-essential items. Sweets and crisps hardly
        ever seem to be in short supply!

        This problem of running out, known as Moscow Syndrome because you
        get about as much choice as you would do if you were shopping in
        Moscow (ie none), is all the more suprising considering the advances
        which have been made recently in automated stock management (ie EDI).
        Stock management is not that difficult!!! If you keep running out
        of something in the middle of the afternoon then you make more of it!!!
        Does it really take a lot to see that? I wrote a program when I was
        16 which won me second prize in Young Programmer of the Year - this
        program worked out reorder levels by analysing stock usage and varying
        the reorder levels from week to week - can't the big stores do the same?

        This running out of items seems to be a peculiarly British phenomenon.
        When a friend was visiting from the US, she couldn't believe the
        rows and rows of near empty shelves when the shop was claiming to be
        "open" and actually took several photos of them to send to the folks
        back home.

        I had an interesting experience with Sainsbury's the other week along
        these lines. I went one Monday night and got the most fantastic choice
        I'd ever seen - every shelf was full of the highest quality produce.
        The next week at the same time, it was back to Moscow Syndrome again.

        I wrote to them and asked why they could pull it off one day and not
        every day. Since it was a new store, I suggested that they had made
        a special effort because perhaps The Queen was coming to open the
        store in the morning. The reply reads:

        "We fully accept all your criticisms and the Store Manager, .., was
        himself embarrassed by the standards on (sic) that department that
        evening."

        "Your observations were quite correct regarding the possible "Royal
        Visit" the week before. It was actually our Company Chairman who
        was visiting us the following morning, but let me assure you again
        that we have taken steps to ensure the Produce Manager maintains
        those standards for the people who really matter".

        This week when I went, there were no pitta breads for the third
        week running and there were also no bananas. ho-hum. Getting fed
        up at this, I went to Safeway's who had virtually shut down their
        entire fruit and vegetable section because there was virtually
        nothing to sell! The chap I confronted at Safeway's said that it
        was like this every week.

        The episode with Sainsbury's goes to show that when a supermarket
        really wants to do so, it can have full shelves with excellent produce.
        However, most of the time it really can't be bothered and is more
        interested in pandering to senior management rather than caring for
        the consumers who give them their profits.

        I'm not trying to single out Sainsbury's here, in fact at least
        Sainsbury's have acknowledged the problem and tried to do something
        about it. All the supermarkets are guilty of poor stock managment,
        unlike of course in the US where the customer reigns supreme.

        Perhaps a debate on usenet about who is the best at keeping full
        shelves might go someway to improving customer choice.

        Please email replies as I don't have read access to this group yet.

        Craig

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Wilson Poon  
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 More options 19 Aug 1993, 06:36
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: Wilson Poon <poon0...@student.tc.umn.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 05:11:15 GMT
Local: Thurs 19 Aug 1993 06:11
Subject: Re: Supermarkets, empty shelves and Moscow Syndrome
I'm really appalled of the Moscow syndromes in UK you described. I thought
UK is an advanced country with high living standards. I really can't
associate what you described with the image of UK. I traveled to UK
about 18 years ago. Although I don't recall much now, I still remember
that it's a very nice country.

I live in the US and I can say that the Moscow syndrome would only
happen if there is a disaster, or something unthinkable happened. The
shelves are always full of products. The products rarely run out,
unless they are special items with low low price. Sometimes, a
supermarket will offer rock bottom prices for certain items, but
they always have enough supply. For non-food items, they will issue
rainchecks so that one can get the out-of-stock items with the same
price later on.

Do you think that the problem associated with the supermarkets you
mentioned is just due to poor stock management? Is it possible that
it is due to inefficiences in distribution channels? I think the supermarkets
will lose customers and forgive potential profits if they allow
the shelves to go empty. Are they stupid or is it just the way of
life in UK?

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Wallace Venable  
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 More options 21 Aug 1993, 17:49
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From: vena...@faculty.coe.wvu.edu (Wallace Venable)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 17:51:39 GMT
Local: Fri 20 Aug 1993 18:51
Subject: Re: Supermarkets, empty shelves and Moscow Syndrome
In article <23225.9308171...@hades.dcs.napier.ac.uk> lss...@department-computer-studies.napier.ac.uk (Craig Cockburn) writes:

>       Ever been to a big supermarket and got fed up because they were out
>       of stock of something (usually bread, fruit or vegetables) ?

>       This running out of items seems to be a peculiarly British phenomenon.

>       This week when I went, there were no pitta breads for the third
>       week running and there were also no bananas. ho-hum. Getting fed
>       up at this, I went to Safeway's who had virtually shut down their
>       entire fruit and vegetable section because there was virtually
>       nothing to sell! The chap I confronted at Safeway's said that it
>       was like this every week.
>                    - deletions-
>       about it. All the supermarkets are guilty of poor stock managment,
>       unlike of course in the US where the customer reigns supreme.

        American stores certainly have shelves full of produce, but that
does not equate to having generous quantities of high quality produce.
        The question of "quality" is an important one.  I had forgotten how
BAD our supermarket tomatoes were until our own started to ripen in the
garden.  One reason the supermarket shelves can be kept full is that we will
buy produce which "looks good" and ships and keeps well, but which has no
taste.  
        There was a national piece in the papers this week saying that few
people think the current peaches are worth buying.
        Actually, in the US, customer supremecy is defined in terms of
tonnage.  If only a modest percentage of customers like a certain line, the
store will probably drop it.  There are also regional assumptions about
product popularity.  In our town, you can rarely find "dark" chocolate.  We
must live in a "milk" chocolate marketing area.

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