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Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

w...@fu.com (ChairMan) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 07:45:55 UT

In news:COsJm.2514$rE5.2198@newsfe08.iad,
Ohioguy <n...@none.net>spewed forth:
and you don't beleive that that corporation will pass that cost on to
you/us as consumers?
You should put the crack pipe away
The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not
first take from someone else.

Re: Subsidy Nonsense Yet Again

lcargil...@comcast.net (Les Cargill) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 06:54:14 UT

??? The roads are financed by fuel taxes. It hardly looks
very opaque, and people have done multiple studies.
The only thing we really don't know is the true cost
of a barrel of oil. We do know the market price of it.
But cars enable people to use land they wouldn't otherwise
be able to. What we see with public transport is that it never

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

rod.speed....@gmail.com (Rod Speed) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 06:22:21 UT

No it doesnt. Hordes of them give up on that way of life instead.
They're dying out.
It doesnt always work out like that.
It doesnt always work out like that.
In spades with the hordes that decide that the amish way of life is not for them.

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

rod.speed....@gmail.com (Rod Speed) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 06:18:39 UT

Ohioguy wrote
Nope.
And they'll ignore that and decide that stuff for themselves.
And dont forget who will be picking your nursing home.
It isnt a pyramid scheme.

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

n...@none.net (Ohioguy) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 05:37:03 UT

> You really don't mind that your perceived windfall is someone
>else's money?
Nope. The money in question - that being used to fund the new $6,500
home tax credit - comes not from anyone's personal income taxes.
Instead, it comes from pushing back a change in corporate taxes that was
supposed to take effect next year, and pushing back that change another

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

n...@none.net (Ohioguy) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 05:29:38 UT

Yes, we will be keeping our current duplex, and renting it out. Yes,
the new home will be our primary residence, but we expect to be able to
move in by sometime in late December/early January. The FHA 203k rehab
loan stipulates that all the needed repairs MUST be made prior to us
moving in to the property, and also within a certain time frame.

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

n...@none.net (Ohioguy) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 05:23:21 UT

>Having kids does not guarantee that they will help you.
I much prefer the Amish method in some ways. When the Amish parents
get old enough, their house goes to a child or grandchild. (they
typically have 6 or 7 kids) Then one of their kids builds on an
addition to their house, called the "doddering house". The parents move

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

n...@none.net (Ohioguy) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 05:17:59 UT

I guess it really depends on how you raise them. I'm going to raise
mine believing in minimal government and maximum personal freedom and
responsibility.
The child tax credit is designed to encourage people to have kids.
Although kids do take up resources in the short term, they also become

Re: Subsidy Nonsense Yet Again (was: ... Live Well w/o a Car ...)

rod.speed....@gmail.com (Rod Speed) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 04:45:59 UT

Jym Dyer wrote
You've completely mangled the attributions. That should have been
In fact most countrys dont actually spend all that they collect
in road taxes exclusively on roads and other car infrastructure.
Yes, but thats an entirely separate matter to his pig ignorant claim about SUBSIDYS.
When the individual that chooses to use a car instead of

Re: Finally the answers you have wanted are available...

rod.speed....@gmail.com (Rod Speed) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 04:35:33 UT

FriendlyWeborhoodGeek wrote
Nope. It it gets too uppity, I beat it to death with the largest waddy I can find.
[link]
Nope, I can always work it out fine.
Nope, I worked out how to use google quite some time ago now.
There always was!!!
No it wont because I wont be stupid enough to use it.

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

rod.speed....@gmail.com (Rod Speed) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 04:28:16 UT

h wrote:
Wrong when you are in a modern first world country that isnt
even self replacing on population if you take out immigration.

Re: slowpoke general contractor got us $6,000!!! (home tax credit)

rod.speed....@gmail.com (Rod Speed) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 04:26:35 UT

h wrote
Dont need anything like that. Not one modern first world country is
even self replacing on population now if you take out immigration.
Even just letting those immigrants in basically reduces
the number of kids they end up with compared with
what they would have had back where they came from.

Re: Cat gets sick with swine flu

dejabl...@comcast.net (dejablues) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 04:14:24 UT

DO you have cats?

Re: Subsidy Nonsense Yet Again

aemeij...@att.net (aemeijers) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 03:07:12 UT

Add it up again with door-to-door service, and 'anytime' availability.
Not everyone lives in the imaginary 1920s-1960s urban utopia of 40 foot
wide lot row houses with a bus stop on every other corner. Nor does
everyone go to work or come home the same time, or work the hours the
bus system is running. To provide anything near the level of service a

Cat gets sick with swine flu

blinkingblyth...@gmail.com (zeez) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 02:18:13 UT

This can get really bad.....
[link]
A 16-pound orange cat in Ames, Iowa, did something last month that
will now and forevermore have a lot of cat lovers taking care to
sneeze into their sleeves.
The 13-year-old tabby came down with H1N1 swine flu, proving that