I am having one hell of a nightmare. Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder problem...
Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. All running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at all. Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were accessible by all the other PC's.
NOT ANY MORE....
Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has most of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which will not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all the advice they can offer but still no luck I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further forward. Basically, if i use the net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared folder it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not work that way.
I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file sharing, everything ...but nothing has worked.
I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Sounds like you are having a tough time of it there!
A few things to consider ( though you may well already have done and you use of a mapped drive suggest these may be already done):
1) As you have XP SP2 then the good old windows firewall may be worth a look 0 try turning it off & see how you go (make sure you have some security in place!)
2) as you are happy with the net use command - you could also try the net view \\servername and see how you do - this should show you the shares on the server, and don't forget that you can substitute IP address for servername
3) on the subject of IP addreses, if these have changed its worth checking wherever (if anywhere local!) you are getting your DNS resolution from, check the HOSTS file if you have one.
btw - using Offline Files is generally more efficient than briefcase in W2k & later.
Give these items a try & let us know how you get on.
"Darren M Taylor" wrote: > I am having one hell of a nightmare. > Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder problem...
> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. All > running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at all. > Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were > accessible by all the other PC's.
> NOT ANY MORE....
> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has most > of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which will > not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. > I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all the > advice they can offer but still no luck > I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the > workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further forward. > Basically, if i use the > net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared folder > it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT > THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not work > that way.
> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file sharing, > everything ...but nothing has worked.
> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i > really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Thanks for the tips so far. Please could you explain the HOSTS file you mentioned. I have checked what i 'think' is the hosts file you talked about (\windows\system32\drivers\etc) but it just seems to be a sample file. I have a file called hosts and a file called lmhosts.sam Could you help with this? should i be looking on 'server' or on the other pc's? If i try net view, i get error 5 which is to do with permissions i believe. So i can map the drive with net set, but can't see the shares using net view (although i can view all the shares on the other pc's) I will try the turning the firewall off, but i'm sure i've tried that already. Hope you can help further
> Sounds like you are having a tough time of it there!
> A few things to consider ( though you may well already have done and you > use > of a mapped drive suggest these may be already done):
> 1) As you have XP SP2 then the good old windows firewall may be worth a > look > 0 try turning it off & see how you go (make sure you have some security in > place!)
> 2) as you are happy with the net use command - you could also try the > net view \\servername > and see how you do - this should show you the shares on the server, and > don't forget that you can substitute IP address for servername
> 3) on the subject of IP addreses, if these have changed its worth checking > wherever (if anywhere local!) you are getting your DNS resolution from, > check > the HOSTS file if you have one.
> btw - using Offline Files is generally more efficient than briefcase in > W2k > & later.
> Give these items a try & let us know how you get on.
> Regards,
> Jason
> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder problem...
>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. >> All >> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at >> all. >> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were >> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> NOT ANY MORE....
>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has >> most >> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which will >> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. >> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all >> the >> advice they can offer but still no luck >> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the >> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further >> forward. >> Basically, if i use the >> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared >> folder >> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT >> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not work >> that way.
>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >> sharing, >> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i >> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP address and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't using the file, thats fine.
If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may suggest that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the server - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a password?
If you try
net use \\servername /user:username
where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the name of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will probably be asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does work then you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC to the server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they match across systems!)
"Darren M Taylor" wrote: > I am having one hell of a nightmare. > Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder problem...
> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. All > running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at all. > Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were > accessible by all the other PC's.
> NOT ANY MORE....
> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has most > of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which will > not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. > I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all the > advice they can offer but still no luck > I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the > workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further forward. > Basically, if i use the > net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared folder > it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT > THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not work > that way.
> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file sharing, > everything ...but nothing has worked.
> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i > really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
OK....i'll try and follow that. when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't accepted and it didnt work. However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name and paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to see the shared folders on the server??? However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both of which have different usernames and passwords!!! I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a different matter!!!! If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions for local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions for any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other workgroup pc's / users....????
> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP address > and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't using > the > file, thats fine.
> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may suggest > that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the > server > - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a > password?
> If you try
> net use \\servername /user:username
> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the > name > of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will probably > be > asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access > methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does work > then > you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC to > the > server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they > match > across systems!)
> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> Regards,
> Jason
> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder problem...
>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. >> All >> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at >> all. >> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were >> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> NOT ANY MORE....
>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has >> most >> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which will >> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. >> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all >> the >> advice they can offer but still no luck >> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the >> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further >> forward. >> Basically, if i use the >> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared >> folder >> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT >> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not work >> that way.
>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >> sharing, >> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i >> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
The net use should, at least, not give you an error, it is a way to tell your computer that when attempting to connect to the server (we'll call it SVR1) it should use the user name (we'll calll him FRED1), so should appear:
net use \\svr1 /user:fred1
IF however your system has already has an established link then you should do this:
net use \\svr1 /delete
first - to break any link - don't worry its just a session based security command and won't actually delete anything real!
You can then try the net use again.
I'm assuming your server is a Windows XP machine too - or at least is NOT a domain controller (these are quite differernt for security purposes) therefore security is pretty similar to your other XP systems. Within what is know as a peer-to-peer or workgroup environment each system should know the usernames and passwords for the users on other systems that it should trust - if you have totally open file sharing (NOT recommended) then this is not essential, but I wouldn't go there.
You have a couple of levels of permissions to look at: 1) Share level permissions - these define who can connect to the share on a system and the MAXIMUM rights of that user for the session - this is usually one of : NONE, READ-ONLY, CHANGE or FULL - this is set under the Permissions button on the Sharing tab for a folder - default on XP (SP2) is Everyone - READ
2) file level permissions - this is only a concern when you are using an NTFS formatted drive - you can easily tell as if you go to the properties of a file or folder on an NTFS drive you will get a Security tab - settings are found there for file level security.
Give the net use \\svr1 /delete a go with the /user net use after doing that and see how you go.
I'm off soon but will probably be around for a little while if you re-post, otherwise I'll look forward to hearing of your progress tomorrow.
> OK....i'll try and follow that. > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't accepted > and it didnt work. > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name and > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to see > the shared folders on the server??? > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both of > which have different usernames and passwords!!! > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing access > to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a different > matter!!!! > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions for > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions for any > other users/computers on the network (workgroup). > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other > workgroup pc's / users....????
> > The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP address > > and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't using > > the > > file, thats fine.
> > If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may suggest > > that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the > > server > > - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a > > password?
> > If you try
> > net use \\servername /user:username
> > where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the > > name > > of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will probably > > be > > asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access > > methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does work > > then > > you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC to > > the > > server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they > > match > > across systems!)
> > Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> > Regards,
> > Jason
> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >> I am having one hell of a nightmare. > >> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder problem...
> >> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. > >> All > >> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at > >> all. > >> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were > >> accessible by all the other PC's.
> >> NOT ANY MORE....
> >> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has > >> most > >> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which will > >> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. > >> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all > >> the > >> advice they can offer but still no luck > >> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the > >> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > >> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further > >> forward. > >> Basically, if i use the > >> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared > >> folder > >> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT > >> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not work > >> that way.
> >> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file > >> sharing, > >> everything ...but nothing has worked.
> >> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i > >> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the shared folder on 'server' the account i created used the same username and password that i am using on the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same username as i use on the 'server' VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on another worgroup pc to access the shared folders. THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything i tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
> OK....i'll try and follow that. > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't accepted > and it didnt work. > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name and > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to > see the shared folders on the server??? > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both of > which have different usernames and passwords!!! > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a > different matter!!!! > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions for > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions for > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other > workgroup pc's / users....????
>> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP >> address >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't using >> the >> file, thats fine.
>> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may suggest >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the >> server >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a >> password?
>> If you try
>> net use \\servername /user:username
>> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the >> name >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will probably >> be >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does work >> then >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC to >> the >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they >> match >> across systems!)
>> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >>> problem...
>>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. >>> All >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at >>> all. >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>>> NOT ANY MORE....
>>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has >>> most >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which >>> will >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all >>> the >>> advice they can offer but still no luck >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further >>> forward. >>> Basically, if i use the >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared >>> folder >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not >>> work >>> that way.
>>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >>> sharing, >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Figured out the syntax for net use. Said "the command completed sucessfully" But still cant access the shared folders. Yes, i am running xp pro. most of the drives are ntfs partitions. Have gone to permissions for shared folders/drives. They are set to "EVERYONE" and "FULL CONTROL" If i go to permissions/add, i get the option to add 'from this location' and the name of my server. however, i cannot then add the names from any other pc's and i guess this is what i am needing to do...???
> The net use should, at least, not give you an error, it is a way to tell > your computer that when attempting to connect to the server (we'll call it > SVR1) it should use the user name (we'll calll him FRED1), so should > appear:
> net use \\svr1 /user:fred1
> IF however your system has already has an established link then you should > do this:
> net use \\svr1 /delete
> first - to break any link - don't worry its just a session based security > command and won't actually delete anything real!
> You can then try the net use again.
> I'm assuming your server is a Windows XP machine too - or at least is NOT > a > domain controller (these are quite differernt for security purposes) > therefore security is pretty similar to your other XP systems. Within what > is > know as a peer-to-peer or workgroup environment each system should know > the > usernames and passwords for the users on other systems that it should > trust - > if you have totally open file sharing (NOT recommended) then this is not > essential, but I wouldn't go there.
> You have a couple of levels of permissions to look at: > 1) Share level permissions - these define who can connect to the share on > a > system and the MAXIMUM rights of that user for the session - this is > usually > one of : NONE, READ-ONLY, CHANGE or FULL - this is set under the > Permissions > button on the Sharing tab for a folder - default on XP (SP2) is Everyone - > READ
> 2) file level permissions - this is only a concern when you are using an > NTFS formatted drive - you can easily tell as if you go to the properties > of > a file or folder on an NTFS drive you will get a Security tab - settings > are > found there for file level security.
> Give the net use \\svr1 /delete a go with the /user net use after doing > that > and see how you go.
> I'm off soon but will probably be around for a little while if you > re-post, > otherwise I'll look forward to hearing of your progress tomorrow.
> Regards,
> Jason
> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> Hi Jason
>> OK....i'll try and follow that. >> when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername >> /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't accepted >> and it didnt work. >> However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the >> server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name and >> paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to >> see >> the shared folders on the server??? >> However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both of >> which have different usernames and passwords!!! >> I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing >> access >> to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a different >> matter!!!! >> If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions for >> local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions for >> any >> other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >> I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other >> workgroup pc's / users....????
>> > The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP >> > address >> > and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't >> > using >> > the >> > file, thats fine.
>> > If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may >> > suggest >> > that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the >> > server >> > - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a >> > password?
>> > If you try
>> > net use \\servername /user:username
>> > where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the >> > name >> > of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will >> > probably >> > be >> > asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access >> > methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does >> > work >> > then >> > you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC >> > to >> > the >> > server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they >> > match >> > across systems!)
>> > Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>> > Regards,
>> > Jason
>> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> >> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> >> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >> >> problem...
>> >> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very >> >> happily. >> >> All >> >> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at >> >> all. >> >> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently >> >> were >> >> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> >> NOT ANY MORE....
>> >> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has >> >> most >> >> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which >> >> will >> >> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. >> >> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all >> >> the >> >> advice they can offer but still no luck >> >> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on >> >> the >> >> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >> >> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further >> >> forward. >> >> Basically, if i use the >> >> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared >> >> folder >> >> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. >> >> BUT >> >> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not >> >> work >> >> that way.
>> >> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >> >> sharing, >> >> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>> >> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz >> >> i >> >> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Well, theres the rub - there are (outside of a domain type structure) no ways to differentiate between where the requests come from, sorry.
What we may be able to gleam from this is where the problem really lies - as something just isn't doing what its supposed to.
If you now share a folder on the 2nd PC - can you see it okay from the notebook? Can you NET VIEW \\PC2 ?
Unless there is some filtering configured on SVR1 then your rights shoud be exactly the same.... to check filtering (on the server) open the properties of your network card, then select TCP/IP from the list - properties. On here click advanced, on next window options, then select TCP/IP filtering, click properties - I would expect to find the Enable TCP/IP filtering etc box NOT checked, this would mean no filtering configured.
I'm assuming no firewall and no routers between the clients and the server.
Can you supply the IP addresses and Subnet Masks for the systems involved (you can mail me at MS_SUPPORT# @ #ciscohelp# . com (put together & take out the #s) and please put MS_SUPPORT in the subject line too - if you don't want to post the info here. (I get too much spam as it is - so I have to obfuscate the email address!)
Lets hope we get you sorted out while there still some hair left, eh?
> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... > ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY > i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the shared > folder on 'server' > the account i created used the same username and password that i am using on > the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same > username as i use on the 'server' > VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... > SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on another > worgroup pc to access the shared folders. > THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? > I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything i > tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. > WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
> > OK....i'll try and follow that. > > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername > > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't accepted > > and it didnt work. > > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the > > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name and > > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to > > see the shared folders on the server??? > > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both of > > which have different usernames and passwords!!! > > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing > > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a > > different matter!!!! > > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions for > > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions for > > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). > > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other > > workgroup pc's / users....????
> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP > >> address > >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't using > >> the > >> file, thats fine.
> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may suggest > >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the > >> server > >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a > >> password?
> >> If you try
> >> net use \\servername /user:username
> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the > >> name > >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will probably > >> be > >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access > >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does work > >> then > >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC to > >> the > >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they > >> match > >> across systems!)
> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> >> Regards,
> >> Jason
> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. > >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder > >>> problem...
> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. > >>> All > >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at > >>> all. > >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were > >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has > >>> most > >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which > >>> will > >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. > >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all > >>> the > >>> advice they can offer but still no luck > >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the > >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further > >>> forward. > >>> Basically, if i use the > >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared > >>> folder > >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT > >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not > >>> work > >>> that way.
> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file > >>> sharing, > >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i > >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... > ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY > i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the shared > folder on 'server' > the account i created used the same username and password that i am using on > the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same > username as i use on the 'server' > VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... > SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on another > worgroup pc to access the shared folders. > THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? > I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything i > tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. > WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
> > OK....i'll try and follow that. > > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername > > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't accepted > > and it didnt work. > > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the > > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name and > > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to > > see the shared folders on the server??? > > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both of > > which have different usernames and passwords!!! > > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing > > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a > > different matter!!!! > > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions for > > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions for > > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). > > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other > > workgroup pc's / users....????
> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP > >> address > >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't using > >> the > >> file, thats fine.
> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may suggest > >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the > >> server > >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a > >> password?
> >> If you try
> >> net use \\servername /user:username
> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is the > >> name > >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will probably > >> be > >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access > >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does work > >> then > >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC to > >> the > >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that they > >> match > >> across systems!)
> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> >> Regards,
> >> Jason
> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. > >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder > >>> problem...
> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very happily. > >>> All > >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems at > >>> all. > >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently were > >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has > >>> most > >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which > >>> will > >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. > >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed all > >>> the > >>> advice they can offer but still no luck > >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on the > >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further > >>> forward. > >>> Basically, if i use the > >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared > >>> folder > >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. BUT > >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not > >>> work > >>> that way.
> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file > >>> sharing, > >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz i > >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Yes, there is NO filtering enabled. I am using a router (wireless). yes i can view shared folders on other PC's, so problem would appear to be with rights on 'server' IP address for server 192.168.2.2 subnet mask 255.255.255.0 IP address for other PC's 192.168.2.3 192.168.2.4 192.168.2.5 all with same subnet mask
> Well, theres the rub - there are (outside of a domain type structure) no > ways to differentiate between where the requests come from, sorry.
> What we may be able to gleam from this is where the problem really lies - > as > something just isn't doing what its supposed to.
> If you now share a folder on the 2nd PC - can you see it okay from the > notebook? Can you NET VIEW \\PC2 ?
> Unless there is some filtering configured on SVR1 then your rights shoud > be > exactly the same.... to check filtering (on the server) open the > properties > of your network card, then select TCP/IP from the list - properties. On > here > click advanced, on next window options, then select TCP/IP filtering, > click > properties - I would expect to find the Enable TCP/IP filtering etc box > NOT > checked, this would mean no filtering configured.
> I'm assuming no firewall and no routers between the clients and the > server.
> Can you supply the IP addresses and Subnet Masks for the systems involved > (you can mail me at MS_SUPPORT# @ #ciscohelp# . com (put together & take > out > the #s) and please put MS_SUPPORT in the subject line too - if you don't > want > to post the info here. (I get too much spam as it is - so I have to > obfuscate > the email address!)
> Lets hope we get you sorted out while there still some hair left, eh?
> :)
> Jason
> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> Hi Jason
>> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the >> shared >> folder on 'server' >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am using >> on >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same >> username as i use on the 'server' >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on another >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything i >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
>> > OK....i'll try and follow that. >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't >> > accepted >> > and it didnt work. >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name >> > and >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to >> > see the shared folders on the server??? >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both >> > of >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a >> > different matter!!!! >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions >> > for >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions >> > for >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
>> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP >> >> address >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't >> >> using >> >> the >> >> file, thats fine.
>> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may >> >> suggest >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the >> >> server >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a >> >> password?
>> >> If you try
>> >> net use \\servername /user:username
>> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is >> >> the >> >> name >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will >> >> probably >> >> be >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does >> >> work >> >> then >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC >> >> to >> >> the >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that >> >> they >> >> match >> >> across systems!)
>> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Jason
>> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >> >>> problem...
>> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very >> >>> happily. >> >>> All >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems >> >>> at >> >>> all. >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently >> >>> were >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
>> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has >> >>> most >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which >> >>> will >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed >> >>> all >> >>> the >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on >> >>> the >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further >> >>> forward. >> >>> Basically, if i use the >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared >> >>> folder >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. >> >>> BUT >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not >> >>> work >> >>> that way.
>> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >> >>> sharing, >> >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz >> >>> i >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
OK.... have gotten a little further I created a user account on server using the same username/password as the person using PC2. VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto PC2 under a different user name. The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the logon screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but remove the name from the logon screen? That would ceratinly solve the problem.
"Ross Durie" <rdu...@caverock.net.nz> wrote in message
>> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the > shared >> folder on 'server' >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am using > on >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same >> username as i use on the 'server' >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on another >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything i >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
>> > OK....i'll try and follow that. >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't > accepted >> > and it didnt work. >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name >> > and >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to >> > see the shared folders on the server??? >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both > of >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a >> > different matter!!!! >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions >> > for >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions >> > for >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
>> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP >> >> address >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't > using >> >> the >> >> file, thats fine.
>> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may > suggest >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the >> >> server >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a >> >> password?
>> >> If you try
>> >> net use \\servername /user:username
>> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is >> >> the >> >> name >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will > probably >> >> be >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does > work >> >> then >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC > to >> >> the >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that >> >> they >> >> match >> >> across systems!)
>> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Jason
>> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >> >>> problem...
>> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very > happily. >> >>> All >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems >> >>> at >> >>> all. >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently > were >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
>> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has >> >>> most >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which >> >>> will >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed >> >>> all >> >>> the >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on > the >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further >> >>> forward. >> >>> Basically, if i use the >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared >> >>> folder >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. > BUT >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not >> >>> work >> >>> that way.
>> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >> >>> sharing, >> >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz > i >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather than anything else.
I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of logon, so I can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. You could try to change some of the group memberships.
Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines as on the 'server'.
Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any more issues.
"Darren M Taylor" wrote: > OK.... > have gotten a little further > I created a user account on server using the same username/password as the > person using PC2. > VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto PC2 under > a different user name. > The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the logon > screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) > Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but remove > the name from the logon screen? > That would ceratinly solve the problem.
> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... > >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY > >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the > > shared > >> folder on 'server' > >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am using > > on > >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same > >> username as i use on the 'server' > >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... > >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on another > >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. > >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? > >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything i > >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. > >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that. > >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername > >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't > > accepted > >> > and it didnt work. > >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on the > >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name > >> > and > >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able to > >> > see the shared folders on the server??? > >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, both > > of > >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! > >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing > >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a > >> > different matter!!!! > >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions > >> > for > >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions > >> > for > >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). > >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other > >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP > >> >> address > >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't > > using > >> >> the > >> >> file, thats fine.
> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may > > suggest > >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on the > >> >> server > >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a > >> >> password?
> >> >> If you try
> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is > >> >> the > >> >> name > >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will > > probably > >> >> be > >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other access > >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does > > work > >> >> then > >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client PC > > to > >> >> the > >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that > >> >> they > >> >> match > >> >> across systems!)
> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Jason
> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. > >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder > >> >>> problem...
> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very > > happily. > >> >>> All > >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no problems > >> >>> at > >> >>> all. > >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until recently > > were > >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it has > >> >>> most > >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) which > >> >>> will > >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared folders/printers. > >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed > >> >>> all > >> >>> the > >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck > >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed on > > the > >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little further > >> >>> forward. > >> >>> Basically, if i use the > >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the shared > >> >>> folder > >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network drive. > > BUT > >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will not > >> >>> work > >> >>> that way.
> >> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file > >> >>> sharing, > >> >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
> >> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help coz > > i > >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
It's strange because this 'security issue' appears only to take place in one direction and only between certain computers. I don't have the 'server' username registered to PC2 and yet i can see it's shared folders.... So if this is a security issue, how do i resolve it?
> Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather than > anything else.
> I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of logon, so > I > can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. You > could > try to change some of the group memberships.
> Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines as on > the 'server'.
> Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any more > issues.
> ttfn,
> Jason
> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> OK.... >> have gotten a little further >> I created a user account on server using the same username/password as >> the >> person using PC2. >> VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto PC2 >> under >> a different user name. >> The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the logon >> screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) >> Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but >> remove >> the name from the logon screen? >> That would ceratinly solve the problem.
>> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... >> >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY >> >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the >> > shared >> >> folder on 'server' >> >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am >> >> using >> > on >> >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same >> >> username as i use on the 'server' >> >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... >> >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on >> >> another >> >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. >> >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? >> >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything >> >> i >> >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. >> >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
>> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that. >> >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername >> >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't >> > accepted >> >> > and it didnt work. >> >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on >> >> > the >> >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name >> >> > and >> >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able >> >> > to >> >> > see the shared folders on the server??? >> >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, >> >> > both >> > of >> >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! >> >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing >> >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a >> >> > different matter!!!! >> >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions >> >> > for >> >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions >> >> > for >> >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >> >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other >> >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
>> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP >> >> >> address >> >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't >> > using >> >> >> the >> >> >> file, thats fine.
>> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may >> > suggest >> >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on >> >> >> the >> >> >> server >> >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a >> >> >> password?
>> >> >> If you try
>> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
>> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is >> >> >> the >> >> >> name >> >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will >> > probably >> >> >> be >> >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other >> >> >> access >> >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does >> > work >> >> >> then >> >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client >> >> >> PC >> > to >> >> >> the >> >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that >> >> >> they >> >> >> match >> >> >> across systems!)
>> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Jason
>> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >> >> >>> problem...
>> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very >> > happily. >> >> >>> All >> >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no >> >> >>> problems >> >> >>> at >> >> >>> all. >> >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until >> >> >>> recently >> > were >> >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
>> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it >> >> >>> has >> >> >>> most >> >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) >> >> >>> which >> >> >>> will >> >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared >> >> >>> folders/printers. >> >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed >> >> >>> all >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck >> >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed >> >> >>> on >> > the >> >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. >> >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little >> >> >>> further >> >> >>> forward. >> >> >>> Basically, if i use the >> >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the >> >> >>> shared >> >> >>> folder >> >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network >> >> >>> drive. >> > BUT >> >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will >> >> >>> not >> >> >>> work >> >> >>> that way.
>> >> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file >> >> >>> sharing, >> >> >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
>> >> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help >> >> >>> coz >> > i >> >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
Well the inconsistency is what really concerns me.
If one system can attach to a share using an identity then another should be able to attatch to the same share with the same identity - are we saying that:
1) your server ISN'T using simple file sharing 2) all of your 'clients' are using different login names and passwords, which are not replicated on the server 3) they can all (except 1?) attatch to the same share and access all files in the same way without problems?
If so I would suggest removing the File & Printer sharing for Microsoft networks (on the server) and then re-adding it, because somerhing in there has got screwed up!
> It's strange because this 'security issue' appears only to take place in one > direction and only between certain computers. > I don't have the 'server' username registered to PC2 and yet i can see it's > shared folders.... > So if this is a security issue, how do i resolve it?
> > Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather than > > anything else.
> > I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of logon, so > > I > > can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. You > > could > > try to change some of the group memberships.
> > Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines as on > > the 'server'.
> > Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any more > > issues.
> > ttfn,
> > Jason
> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >> OK.... > >> have gotten a little further > >> I created a user account on server using the same username/password as > >> the > >> person using PC2. > >> VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto PC2 > >> under > >> a different user name. > >> The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the logon > >> screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) > >> Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but > >> remove > >> the name from the logon screen? > >> That would ceratinly solve the problem.
> >> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... > >> >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY > >> >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing the > >> > shared > >> >> folder on 'server' > >> >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am > >> >> using > >> > on > >> >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the same > >> >> username as i use on the 'server' > >> >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... > >> >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on > >> >> another > >> >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. > >> >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? > >> >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and everything > >> >> i > >> >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. > >> >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
> >> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that. > >> >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use \\servername > >> >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't > >> > accepted > >> >> > and it didnt work. > >> >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder on > >> >> > the > >> >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account name > >> >> > and > >> >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am able > >> >> > to > >> >> > see the shared folders on the server??? > >> >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, > >> >> > both > >> > of > >> >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! > >> >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions allowing > >> >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is a > >> >> > different matter!!!! > >> >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set permissions > >> >> > for > >> >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set permissions > >> >> > for > >> >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). > >> >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for other > >> >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
> >> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an IP > >> >> >> address > >> >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you aren't > >> > using > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> file, thats fine.
> >> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may > >> > suggest > >> >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions on > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> server > >> >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for a > >> >> >> password?
> >> >> >> If you try
> >> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
> >> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username is > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> name > >> >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will > >> > probably > >> >> >> be > >> >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other > >> >> >> access > >> >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this does > >> > work > >> >> >> then > >> >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the client > >> >> >> PC > >> > to > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and that > >> >> >> they > >> >> >> match > >> >> >> across systems!)
> >> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> Jason
> >> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
> >> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. > >> >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder > >> >> >>> problem...
> >> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very > >> > happily. > >> >> >>> All > >> >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no > >> >> >>> problems > >> >> >>> at > >> >> >>> all. > >> >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until > >> >> >>> recently > >> > were > >> >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
> >> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
> >> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because it > >> >> >>> has > >> >> >>> most > >> >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) > >> >> >>> which > >> >> >>> will > >> >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared > >> >> >>> folders/printers. > >> >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and followed > >> >> >>> all > >> >> >>> the > >> >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck > >> >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is listed > >> >> >>> on > >> > the > >> >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared folders. > >> >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little > >> >> >>> further > >> >> >>> forward. > >> >> >>> Basically, if i use the > >> >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the > >> >> >>> shared > >> >> >>> folder > >> >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network > >> >> >>> drive. > >> > BUT > >> >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which will > >> >> >>> not > >> >> >>> work > >> >> >>> that way.
> >> >> >>> I have tried renaming, re-installing TCPIP, disabling simple file > >> >> >>> sharing, > >> >> >>> everything ...but nothing has worked.
> >> >> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly help > >> >> >>> coz > >> > i > >> >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
> Well the inconsistency is what really concerns me.
> If one system can attach to a share using an identity then another should > be > able to attatch to the same share with the same identity - are we saying > that:
> 1) your server ISN'T using simple file sharing > 2) all of your 'clients' are using different login names and passwords, > which are not replicated on the server > 3) they can all (except 1?) attatch to the same share and access all files > in the same way without problems?
> If so I would suggest removing the File & Printer sharing for Microsoft > networks (on the server) and then re-adding it, because somerhing in there > has got screwed up!
> Let me know how you get on.
> Jason
> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> Hi Jason
>> It's strange because this 'security issue' appears only to take place in >> one >> direction and only between certain computers. >> I don't have the 'server' username registered to PC2 and yet i can see >> it's >> shared folders.... >> So if this is a security issue, how do i resolve it?
>> > Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather >> > than >> > anything else.
>> > I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of logon, >> > so >> > I >> > can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. You >> > could >> > try to change some of the group memberships.
>> > Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines as >> > on >> > the 'server'.
>> > Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any >> > more >> > issues.
>> > ttfn,
>> > Jason
>> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> >> OK.... >> >> have gotten a little further >> >> I created a user account on server using the same username/password as >> >> the >> >> person using PC2. >> >> VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto PC2 >> >> under >> >> a different user name. >> >> The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the logon >> >> screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) >> >> Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but >> >> remove >> >> the name from the logon screen? >> >> That would ceratinly solve the problem.
>> >> > -- >> >> > Ross >> >> > "Darren M Taylor" <dar...@NOSPAMthemansionhouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote >> >> > in >> >> > message news:OUQ3LNtkEHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Hi Jason
>> >> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... >> >> >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY >> >> >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing >> >> >> the >> >> > shared >> >> >> folder on 'server' >> >> >> the account i created used the same username and password that i am >> >> >> using >> >> > on >> >> >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the >> >> >> same >> >> >> username as i use on the 'server' >> >> >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... >> >> >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on >> >> >> another >> >> >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. >> >> >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? >> >> >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and >> >> >> everything >> >> >> i >> >> >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. >> >> >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
>> >> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that. >> >> >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use >> >> >> > \\servername >> >> >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't >> >> > accepted >> >> >> > and it didnt work. >> >> >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder >> >> >> > on >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account >> >> >> > name >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am >> >> >> > able >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > see the shared folders on the server??? >> >> >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another laptop, >> >> >> > both >> >> > of >> >> >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! >> >> >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions >> >> >> > allowing >> >> >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > different matter!!!! >> >> >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set >> >> >> > permissions >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set >> >> >> > permissions >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >> >> >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for >> >> >> > other >> >> >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
>> >> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an >> >> >> >> IP >> >> >> >> address >> >> >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you >> >> >> >> aren't >> >> > using >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> file, thats fine.
>> >> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this may >> >> > suggest >> >> >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> server >> >> >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> password?
>> >> >> >> If you try
>> >> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
>> >> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the username >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> name >> >> >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you will >> >> > probably >> >> >> >> be >> >> >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other >> >> >> >> access >> >> >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this >> >> >> >> does >> >> > work >> >> >> >> then >> >> >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the >> >> >> >> client >> >> >> >> PC >> >> > to >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> they >> >> >> >> match >> >> >> >> across systems!)
>> >> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >> Jason
>> >> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>> >> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >> >> >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >> >> >> >>> problem...
>> >> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very >> >> > happily. >> >> >> >>> All >> >> >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no >> >> >> >>> problems >> >> >> >>> at >> >> >> >>> all. >> >> >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until >> >> >> >>> recently >> >> > were >> >> >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>> >> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
>> >> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because >> >> >> >>> it >> >> >> >>> has >> >> >> >>> most >> >> >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) >> >> >> >>> which >> >> >> >>> will >> >> >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared >> >> >> >>> folders/printers. >> >> >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and >> >> >> >>> followed >> >> >> >>> all >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck >> >> >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is >> >> >> >>> listed >> >> >> >>> on >> >> > the >> >> >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared >> >> >> >>> folders. >> >> >> >>> Now, I followed one help thread and it did take me a little >> >> >> >>> further >> >> >> >>> forward. >> >> >> >>> Basically, if i use the >> >> >> >>> net use x: \\servername\sharedfolder command to connect to the >> >> >> >>> shared >> >> >> >>> folder >> >> >> >>> it works!!!!! and i see the shared folder as a mapped network >> >> >> >>> drive. >> >> > BUT >> >> >> >>> THAT ONLY HELPS SO MUCH... and i have briefcase files which >> >> >> >>> will >> >> >> >>> not >> >> >> >>> work >> >> >> >>> that way.
>> >> >> >>> I would really be very appreciative if anyone could possibly >> >> >> >>> help >> >> >> >>> coz >> >> > i >> >> >> >>> really am tearing whats left of my hair out!!
I have been trying to follow this thread and found it interesting that it worked when you created a second user account on the 'server'. Why not create a user account on the server for each PC using the same username and password that each PC would use for itself and then to avoid loads of names at the log on go to Control Panel|User Accounts|Change the way users log on, deselect the Welcome Screen.
>> Well the inconsistency is what really concerns me.
>> If one system can attach to a share using an identity then another should >> be >> able to attatch to the same share with the same identity - are we saying >> that:
>> 1) your server ISN'T using simple file sharing >> 2) all of your 'clients' are using different login names and passwords, >> which are not replicated on the server >> 3) they can all (except 1?) attatch to the same share and access all >> files >> in the same way without problems?
>> If so I would suggest removing the File & Printer sharing for Microsoft >> networks (on the server) and then re-adding it, because somerhing in >> there >> has got screwed up!
>> Let me know how you get on.
>> Jason
>> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>> Hi Jason
>>> It's strange because this 'security issue' appears only to take place in >>> one >>> direction and only between certain computers. >>> I don't have the 'server' username registered to PC2 and yet i can see >>> it's >>> shared folders.... >>> So if this is a security issue, how do i resolve it?
>>> > Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather >>> > than >>> > anything else.
>>> > I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of >>> > logon, so >>> > I >>> > can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. You >>> > could >>> > try to change some of the group memberships.
>>> > Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines >>> > as on >>> > the 'server'.
>>> > Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any >>> > more >>> > issues.
>>> > ttfn,
>>> > Jason
>>> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>> >> OK.... >>> >> have gotten a little further >>> >> I created a user account on server using the same username/password >>> >> as >>> >> the >>> >> person using PC2. >>> >> VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto >>> >> PC2 >>> >> under >>> >> a different user name. >>> >> The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the >>> >> logon >>> >> screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) >>> >> Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, but >>> >> remove >>> >> the name from the logon screen? >>> >> That would ceratinly solve the problem.
>>> >> > -- >>> >> > Ross >>> >> > "Darren M Taylor" <dar...@NOSPAMthemansionhouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote >>> >> > in >>> >> > message news:OUQ3LNtkEHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> Hi Jason
>>> >> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... >>> >> >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY >>> >> >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing >>> >> >> the >>> >> > shared >>> >> >> folder on 'server' >>> >> >> the account i created used the same username and password that i >>> >> >> am >>> >> >> using >>> >> > on >>> >> >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the >>> >> >> same >>> >> >> username as i use on the 'server' >>> >> >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... >>> >> >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on >>> >> >> another >>> >> >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. >>> >> >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? >>> >> >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and >>> >> >> everything >>> >> >> i >>> >> >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. >>> >> >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
>>> >> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that. >>> >> >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use >>> >> >> > \\servername >>> >> >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format wasn't >>> >> > accepted >>> >> >> > and it didnt work. >>> >> >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared folder >>> >> >> > on >>> >> >> > the >>> >> >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account >>> >> >> > name >>> >> >> > and >>> >> >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am >>> >> >> > able >>> >> >> > to >>> >> >> > see the shared folders on the server??? >>> >> >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another >>> >> >> > laptop, >>> >> >> > both >>> >> > of >>> >> >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! >>> >> >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions >>> >> >> > allowing >>> >> >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up is >>> >> >> > a >>> >> >> > different matter!!!! >>> >> >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set >>> >> >> > permissions >>> >> >> > for >>> >> >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set >>> >> >> > permissions >>> >> >> > for >>> >> >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >>> >> >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for >>> >> >> > other >>> >> >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
>>> >> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between an >>> >> >> >> IP >>> >> >> >> address >>> >> >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you >>> >> >> >> aren't >>> >> > using >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> file, thats fine.
>>> >> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this >>> >> >> >> may >>> >> > suggest >>> >> >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have permissions >>> >> >> >> on >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> server >>> >> >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted for >>> >> >> >> a >>> >> >> >> password?
>>> >> >> >> If you try
>>> >> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
>>> >> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the >>> >> >> >> username is >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> name >>> >> >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you >>> >> >> >> will >>> >> > probably >>> >> >> >> be >>> >> >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your other >>> >> >> >> access >>> >> >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this >>> >> >> >> does >>> >> > work >>> >> >> >> then >>> >> >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the >>> >> >> >> client >>> >> >> >> PC >>> >> > to >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and >>> >> >> >> that >>> >> >> >> they >>> >> >> >> match >>> >> >> >> across systems!)
>>> >> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>>> >> >> >> Regards,
>>> >> >> >> Jason
>>> >> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >>> >> >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared folder >>> >> >> >>> problem...
>>> >> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked very >>> >> > happily. >>> >> >> >>> All >>> >> >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no >>> >> >> >>> problems >>> >> >> >>> at >>> >> >> >>> all. >>> >> >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until >>> >> >> >>> recently >>> >> > were >>> >> >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>>> >> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
>>> >> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server because >>> >> >> >>> it >>> >> >> >>> has >>> >> >> >>> most >>> >> >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the network) >>> >> >> >>> which >>> >> >> >>> will >>> >> >> >>> not allow any of the others to access it's shared >>> >> >> >>> folders/printers. >>> >> >> >>> I have meticulously searched all the websites, KB etc and >>> >> >> >>> followed >>> >> >> >>> all >>> >> >> >>> the >>> >> >> >>> advice they can offer but still no luck >>> >> >> >>> I can ping from any PC to the server and vice versa, it is >>> >> >> >>> listed >>> >> >> >>> on >>> >> > the >>> >> >> >>> workgroup and yet still no luck connecting to the shared >>> >> >> >>> folders.
>I have been trying to follow this thread and found it interesting that it >worked when you created a second user account on the 'server'. Why not >create a user account on the server for each PC using the same username and >password that each PC would use for itself and then to avoid loads of names >at the log on go to Control Panel|User Accounts|Change the way users log >on, deselect the Welcome Screen.
>>> Well the inconsistency is what really concerns me.
>>> If one system can attach to a share using an identity then another >>> should be >>> able to attatch to the same share with the same identity - are we saying >>> that:
>>> 1) your server ISN'T using simple file sharing >>> 2) all of your 'clients' are using different login names and passwords, >>> which are not replicated on the server >>> 3) they can all (except 1?) attatch to the same share and access all >>> files >>> in the same way without problems?
>>> If so I would suggest removing the File & Printer sharing for Microsoft >>> networks (on the server) and then re-adding it, because somerhing in >>> there >>> has got screwed up!
>>> Let me know how you get on.
>>> Jason
>>> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>>> Hi Jason
>>>> It's strange because this 'security issue' appears only to take place >>>> in one >>>> direction and only between certain computers. >>>> I don't have the 'server' username registered to PC2 and yet i can see >>>> it's >>>> shared folders.... >>>> So if this is a security issue, how do i resolve it?
>>>> > Well - I think we've nailed the problem to a security issue, rather >>>> > than >>>> > anything else.
>>>> > I'm afraid I don't use the 'names on the startup screen' type of >>>> > logon, so >>>> > I >>>> > can't advise how to get rid of some names and leave others, sorry. >>>> > You >>>> > could >>>> > try to change some of the group memberships.
>>>> > Your alternative is to setup the same user on all the other machines >>>> > as on >>>> > the 'server'.
>>>> > Post back or email me if you are still haveing problems or have any >>>> > more >>>> > issues.
>>>> > ttfn,
>>>> > Jason
>>>> > "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>>> >> OK.... >>>> >> have gotten a little further >>>> >> I created a user account on server using the same username/password >>>> >> as >>>> >> the >>>> >> person using PC2. >>>> >> VOILA... i can now access the shared folders even when logged onto >>>> >> PC2 >>>> >> under >>>> >> a different user name. >>>> >> The problem now of course is that i get 2 accounts listed on the >>>> >> logon >>>> >> screen on server (WHICH I DONT WANT) >>>> >> Is there a way i can now keep the user i have created oin server, >>>> >> but >>>> >> remove >>>> >> the name from the logon screen? >>>> >> That would ceratinly solve the problem.
>>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Ross >>>> >> > "Darren M Taylor" <dar...@NOSPAMthemansionhouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote >>>> >> > in >>>> >> > message news:OUQ3LNtkEHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>>> >> >> Hi Jason
>>>> >> >> OK>>>>> I think i've figured the problem... >>>> >> >> ALTHOUGH FIXING IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY >>>> >> >> i just created a new user account on the pc that WASNT accessing >>>> >> >> the >>>> >> > shared >>>> >> >> folder on 'server' >>>> >> >> the account i created used the same username and password that i >>>> >> >> am >>>> >> >> using >>>> >> > on >>>> >> >> the laptop (which could access the shared folders) and also the >>>> >> >> same >>>> >> >> username as i use on the 'server' >>>> >> >> VOILA.... I could then access the shared folder... >>>> >> >> SO... this HAS to be an issue with allowing a different user on >>>> >> >> another >>>> >> >> worgroup pc to access the shared folders. >>>> >> >> THE QUESTION NOW IS... HOW THE HELL DO I SET THIS PERMISSION??? >>>> >> >> I have looked at the permissions for the shared folders and >>>> >> >> everything >>>> >> >> i >>>> >> >> tried has pretty much no effect... still can't access themn. >>>> >> >> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!!
>>>> >> >> > OK....i'll try and follow that. >>>> >> >> > when i use net view i get error 53. I tried the net use >>>> >> >> > \\servername >>>> >> >> > /user:username that you suggested, but somehow the format >>>> >> >> > wasn't >>>> >> > accepted >>>> >> >> > and it didnt work. >>>> >> >> > However, I have this evening managed to access the shared >>>> >> >> > folder on >>>> >> >> > the >>>> >> >> > server from my laptop, although my laptop uses the same account >>>> >> >> > name >>>> >> >> > and >>>> >> >> > paasword as the 'server'. perhaps this may account for how i am >>>> >> >> > able >>>> >> >> > to >>>> >> >> > see the shared folders on the server??? >>>> >> >> > However, i can see shared folders from 1laptop to another >>>> >> >> > laptop, >>>> >> >> > both >>>> >> > of >>>> >> >> > which have different usernames and passwords!!! >>>> >> >> > I am convinced that the problem must lie in the permissions >>>> >> >> > allowing >>>> >> >> > access to the shared folders although just how to set that up >>>> >> >> > is a >>>> >> >> > different matter!!!! >>>> >> >> > If i go into permissions on the server, i am able to set >>>> >> >> > permissions >>>> >> >> > for >>>> >> >> > local users on the 'server' however i am not able to set >>>> >> >> > permissions >>>> >> >> > for >>>> >> >> > any other users/computers on the network (workgroup). >>>> >> >> > I guess what i may need to know is how to set permissions for >>>> >> >> > other >>>> >> >> > workgroup pc's / users....????
>>>> >> >> >> The HOSTS file just allows you to set an association between >>>> >> >> >> an IP >>>> >> >> >> address >>>> >> >> >> and a host name - if you only have the .SAM files, then you >>>> >> >> >> aren't >>>> >> > using >>>> >> >> >> the >>>> >> >> >> file, thats fine.
>>>> >> >> >> If you are getting a permissions error on NET VIEW then this >>>> >> >> >> may >>>> >> > suggest >>>> >> >> >> that the user context that you are in does not have >>>> >> >> >> permissions on >>>> >> >> >> the >>>> >> >> >> server >>>> >> >> >> - when you use the NET USE method, do you then get prompted >>>> >> >> >> for a >>>> >> >> >> password?
>>>> >> >> >> If you try
>>>> >> >> >> net use \\servername /user:username
>>>> >> >> >> where the servername is the name of your server and the >>>> >> >> >> username is >>>> >> >> >> the >>>> >> >> >> name >>>> >> >> >> of a user with known good permissions on that server, - you >>>> >> >> >> will >>>> >> > probably >>>> >> >> >> be >>>> >> >> >> asked for the password for that user ... then retry your >>>> >> >> >> other >>>> >> >> >> access >>>> >> >> >> methods (briefcase etc) and see if you have success - if this >>>> >> >> >> does >>>> >> > work >>>> >> >> >> then >>>> >> >> >> you need to add the user name under which you log on to the >>>> >> >> >> client >>>> >> >> >> PC >>>> >> > to >>>> >> >> >> the >>>> >> >> >> server's user list - and make sure you do have passwords (and >>>> >> >> >> that >>>> >> >> >> they >>>> >> >> >> match >>>> >> >> >> across systems!)
>>>> >> >> >> Let me know if this reveals anything new.
>>>> >> >> >> Regards,
>>>> >> >> >> Jason
>>>> >> >> >> "Darren M Taylor" wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> I am having one hell of a nightmare. >>>> >> >> >>> Having spent the last 3 days trying to resolve a shared >>>> >> >> >>> folder >>>> >> >> >>> problem...
>>>> >> >> >>> Background.... I have 6 pc's all wired/wireless networked >>>> >> >> >>> very >>>> >> > happily. >>>> >> >> >>> All >>>> >> >> >>> running XP pro SP2 and all able to access internet with no >>>> >> >> >>> problems >>>> >> >> >>> at >>>> >> >> >>> all. >>>> >> >> >>> Several of the PC's have shared folders/drives which until >>>> >> >> >>> recently >>>> >> > were >>>> >> >> >>> accessible by all the other PC's.
>>>> >> >> >>> NOT ANY MORE....
>>>> >> >> >>> Since Thursday, I have 1 PC (which i shall call server >>>> >> >> >>> because it >>>> >> >> >>> has >>>> >> >> >>> most >>>> >> >> >>> of the shared folders and is the only PC wired to the >>>> >> >> >>> network) >>>> >> >> >>> which
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