Looks like I have a problem here. I have a 1560gig HD onto which I have installed W2k. Thinkling I understood the LBA issue, I made partitions before the install. Then went thru with the install; did the SP4 and SP4 rollup 1 updates. Added the Enable BigLba refgistry entry.
BUT still can not see the entire drive space. Originally made 4 partitions with the W2k install, C=15gig, D=10g, E=15g, F=15g. Free space showed up as 73gig.
So guess I did something wrong. Maybe making the extra 3 partitions messed up the future calculation of an accurate frre space for the full drive.
Is there any way to recover from this and get back my full drive space? Other than starting over?? Hate to go thruagain all the hours of installs I just did.
btw the system does see the full 160gigs on another drive I connected thru a usb adapter. So that makes me thing I did the LBA thing correctly. Just that I messed up on the main drive.
When you start up try entering cmos setup and verify that the disk size is correctly identified.
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"Sam" wrote: > Looks like I have a problem here. I have a 1560gig HD onto which I > have installed W2k. Thinkling I understood the LBA issue, I made > partitions before the install. Then went thru with the install; did > the SP4 and SP4 rollup 1 updates. Added the Enable BigLba refgistry > entry.
> BUT still can not see the entire drive space. Originally made 4 > partitions with the W2k install, C=15gig, D=10g, E=15g, F=15g. Free > space showed up as 73gig.
> So guess I did something wrong. Maybe making the extra 3 partitions > messed up the future calculation of an accurate frre space for the > full drive.
> Is there any way to recover from this and get back my full drive > space? Other than starting over?? Hate to go thruagain all the > hours of installs I just did.
> btw the system does see the full 160gigs on another drive I connected > thru a usb adapter. So that makes me thing I did the LBA thing > correctly. Just that I messed up on the main drive.
I have checked the CMOS on boot and it does report the correct drive size,
And I went ahead and removed the last 3 of the partitions which I created at install. The install had made them logical drives. So I also removed the extended partition in which these 3 were made.
But still the OS does not recognize the full 160 gigs. Sorry for the previous drive size typo. The drive in question is a 160gig WD IDE drive.
48-bit LBA capability does not apply to USB drives, only to drives connected to the motherboard chipset IDE or SATA interface. If Disk Management does not recognize the disk size as about 148 GB, then Windows 2000 is not correctly configured for 48-bit LBA.
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:46:53 -0400, Sam <sam...@santacarla.net> wrote: >David, >Thanks for your reply.
>I have checked the CMOS on boot and it does report the correct drive >size,
>And I went ahead and removed the last 3 of the partitions which I >created at install. The install had made them logical drives. So I >also removed the extended partition in which these 3 were made.
>But still the OS does not recognize the full 160 gigs. Sorry for the >previous drive size typo. The drive in question is a 160gig WD IDE >drive.
>Sam
>Dave Patrick
>>When you start up try entering cmos setup and verify that the disk size is >>correctly identified.
Andy > wrote: >48-bit LBA capability does not apply to USB drives, only to drives >connected to the motherboard chipset IDE or SATA interface. If Disk >Management does not recognize the disk size as about 148 GB, then >Windows 2000 is not correctly configured for 48-bit LBA.
>On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:46:53 -0400, Sam <sam...@santacarla.net> wrote:
>>David, >>Thanks for your reply.
>>I have checked the CMOS on boot and it does report the correct drive >>size,
>>And I went ahead and removed the last 3 of the partitions which I >>created at install. The install had made them logical drives. So I >>also removed the extended partition in which these 3 were made.
>>But still the OS does not recognize the full 160 gigs. Sorry for the >>previous drive size typo. The drive in question is a 160gig WD IDE >>drive.
>>Sam
>>Dave Patrick
>>>When you start up try entering cmos setup and verify that the disk size is >>>correctly identified.
I'm looking at making a slipstream cd with SP4 on it. But so far the instructions I've found seem not to be sufficient. So am not sure how far that will get.
Plus I end up with a W2k which still needs all teh updates since SP4. That should get me an OS with LBA included. But I will still be many updates away from a completely up to date W2k.
Is there a way to find all teh W2k updates and make just one complete Slipstreamed CD?
And as it may appear I am close to blowing this install away and starting over.
It won't help. The regedit still must be applied as per the article.
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"Sam" wrote: > This has gotten overly frustrating.
> I'm looking at making a slipstream cd with SP4 on it. But so far the > instructions I've found seem not to be sufficient. So am not sure how > far that will get.
> Plus I end up with a W2k which still needs all teh updates since SP4. > That should get me an OS with LBA included. But I will still be many > updates away from a completely up to date W2k.
> Is there a way to find all teh W2k updates and make just one complete > Slipstreamed CD?
> And as it may appear I am close to blowing this install away and > starting over.
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:49:08 -0600, "Dave Patrick"
<DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com> wrote: >It won't help. The regedit still must be applied as per the article.
David,
Thanks for getting back to me on this.
Are you saying that slipstreaming in SP4 will still not let W2k see the full 160gigs when I start the install?
But that it will only see the 160gig after I change the registry entry after install of the slipstream is completed?
If that is so then, it would seem that I should only make 1 partition the size I want it to be for the OS. And leave the rest of the drive unpartitioned?
Reading the LBA document seemed to say that the OS would find the rest of the drive after the SP4 and the registry change were made. From that I am thinking that I messed that up when I made 4 partitions instead of making only just the one (first) partition for the OS, right?
Well tried making a bootable slipstream SP4 CD/ After two tries that did not boot, gave up on that for now.
Have cleaned out the 160g boot drive. And reinstalled the W2k from the original MS cd (sp2 one). But with ONLY the 1 partition made for the OS.
It installed ok. Loaded minimum programs to operate it, Mbd drivers, video drivers, and file handler.
Then did the SP4 update package. Did the LBA registry change. Robooted.and Disk Management now sees the entire 160g drive (149.05 gig). Will go ahead and create the rest of machine tomorrow.
But I still would like to know more about slipstreaming and how to et all the updates available for this good old W2k OS.
Is there a way to get all the updates downloaded and just do one massive install of all of them?
> Are you saying that slipstreaming in SP4 will still not let W2k see > the full 160gigs when I start the install?
* Yes
> But that it will only see the 160gig after I change the registry entry > after install of the slipstream is completed?
* Correct again
> If that is so then, it would seem that I should only make 1 partition > the size I want it to be for the OS. And leave the rest of the drive > unpartitioned?
* Yes, that's what I would do.
> Reading the LBA document seemed to say that the OS would find the rest > of the drive after the SP4 and the registry change were made. From > that I am thinking that I messed that up when I made 4 partitions > instead of making only just the one (first) partition for the OS, > right?
* Yes, you've got it.
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Thanks for your follow up on this. The machine is running and waiting for me to get the other programs installed. Have always liked W2k, even though it is getting to be an antique. So it's good to get this next one running.
Now for the remaining issues:
Is there a nice list of all the updates fro W2k since SP4 and the SP4 rollup?
Is there a way to get all these together and do just one "massive update? Or should they get grouped in some sort of order?
It is looking like for future retention of what ever little sanity I have, that the best way to be able to rebuild a machine will be to image the OS and program parts of the drive. Then just restore that image, right?
I can use Terabyte or Acronis for that, I would guess. But I would be saving particular partitions, OS & programs. Which does not necessarily get me the mbr saved or the overall partition structure.
How would you suggest I approach that? Ideally I would have a duplicate drive on the shelf, but .... backups do require fewer "spare" drives. And each drive mates with only the specific type of motherboard.
btw For this project, I am working with a modest number of older machines. I am finally getting my all 5 OC'd AMD XP systems all running at the same time and spreading out some of my more intensive tasks to specific machines. 3 Mbd types involved and of course with different chipsets. The good news is that I still have my original CD's and licenses. The bad news seems to be that the updates are substantial.
Also my standard boiler plate; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000 CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.
(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver for your drive controller in drive "A")
Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.
Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of the license agreement and continue the installation.
When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use all available space.
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> Well tried making a bootable slipstream SP4 CD/ > After two tries that did not boot, gave up on that for now.
> Have cleaned out the 160g boot drive. And reinstalled the W2k from the > original MS cd (sp2 one). But with ONLY the 1 partition made for the > OS.
> It installed ok. Loaded minimum programs to operate it, Mbd drivers, > video drivers, and file handler.
> Then did the SP4 update package. Did the LBA registry change. > Robooted.and Disk Management now sees the entire 160g drive (149.05 > gig). Will go ahead and create the rest of machine tomorrow.
> But I still would like to know more about slipstreaming and how to et > all the updates available for this good old W2k OS.
> Is there a way to get all the updates downloaded and just do one > massive install of all of them?
Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect
> Thanks for your follow up on this. The machine is running and waiting > for me to get the other programs installed. Have always liked W2k, > even though it is getting to be an antique. So it's good to get this > next one running.
> Now for the remaining issues:
> Is there a nice list of all the updates fro W2k since SP4 and the SP4 > rollup?
> Is there a way to get all these together and do just one "massive > update? Or should they get grouped in some sort of order?
> It is looking like for future retention of what ever little sanity I > have, that the best way to be able to rebuild a machine will be to > image the OS and program parts of the drive. Then just restore that > image, right?
> I can use Terabyte or Acronis for that, I would guess. But I would be > saving particular partitions, OS & programs. Which does not > necessarily get me the mbr saved or the overall partition structure.
> How would you suggest I approach that? Ideally I would have a > duplicate drive on the shelf, but .... backups do require fewer > "spare" drives. And each drive mates with only the specific type of > motherboard.
> btw For this project, I am working with a modest number of older > machines. I am finally getting my all 5 OC'd AMD XP systems all > running at the same time and spreading out some of my more intensive > tasks to specific machines. 3 Mbd types involved and of course with > different chipsets. The good news is that I still have my original > CD's and licenses. The bad news seems to be that the updates are > substantial.
Unfortunately that link has given me only a lot of errors. IS there a better one?
1) it seems to be accessible only thru IE.
2) it needs a lot of active X and even though I did go ahead and allow everything it wanted, still I get errors.
I allowed active X thru the router, thru the firewall and in IE internet options for my IE6 for the sites one of the error pages said I had to. But no difference.
And to make things a bit scary, my Outpost firewall is reporting that IE is using chqnged components. Since I never use IE, that was not too surprising. But it has continued and now it seems that IE needs a component from my "eraser" program.
At that point I stopped it entirely. Am wondering if allowing the sites requested and allowing Active X for them, that I have now gotten this machine infected.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:22:24 -0400, Acc7 <a...@berkeley.net> wrote: >David,
>Thanks for your follow up on this. The machine is running and waiting >for me to get the other programs installed. Have always liked W2k, >even though it is getting to be an antique. So it's good to get this >next one running.
>Now for the remaining issues:
>Is there a nice list of all the updates fro W2k since SP4 and the SP4 >rollup?
Run Belarc Advisor. It will provide a list of hotfixes, installed and missing.
>Is there a way to get all these together and do just one "massive >update? Or should they get grouped in some sort of order?
The easiest way to get updated is to connect to the internet and let Windows 2000 update itself.
>It is looking like for future retention of what ever little sanity I >have, that the best way to be able to rebuild a machine will be to >image the OS and program parts of the drive. Then just restore that >image, right?
>I can use Terabyte or Acronis for that, I would guess. But I would be >saving particular partitions, OS & programs. Which does not >necessarily get me the mbr saved or the overall partition structure.
>How would you suggest I approach that? Ideally I would have a >duplicate drive on the shelf, but .... backups do require fewer >"spare" drives. And each drive mates with only the specific type of >motherboard.
>btw For this project, I am working with a modest number of older >machines. I am finally getting my all 5 OC'd AMD XP systems all >running at the same time and spreading out some of my more intensive >tasks to specific machines. 3 Mbd types involved and of course with >different chipsets. The good news is that I still have my original >CD's and licenses. The bad news seems to be that the updates are >substantial.
Andy wrote: >Run Belarc Advisor. It will provide a list of hotfixes, installed and >missing.
>The easiest way to get updated is to connect to the internet and let >Windows 2000 update itself.
Belarc is a definite.
But with having to do 5 of these machines to do, I was hoping to find a simple approach which I could just put on a cd or dvd or on a thumb drive and get the OS up to peak quickly.
I'd thought that slip streaming would let me do this but the examples I've seen so far onkly seem to deal with SP4. And there are a number of updates since then.
But Windows Update is not really what I have in mind. For one thing, I'd still be dependent on it again if I had to do another reinstall. Better to have everything here locally and ready to go if needed.
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