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From: "Vincent Cook" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
Subject: Re: To David Friedman: Antitrust
Date: 1998/05/07
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[By the way David, I enjoyed your TV appearance with Ed Meese]

David Friedman, replying to Jimbo Wales, wrote:

>>In the _opening page_ of chaper 1 of _Capitalism_ (the cited work), Rand
>>wrote: "It is philosophy that defines and establishes the epistemological
>>criteria to guide human knowledge in general and specific sciences in
>>particular.  Political economy came into prominence in the nineteenth
>>century, in the era of philosophy's post-Kantian disintegration, and no one
>>rose to check its premises or to challenge its base.  Implicitly,
>>uncritically, and by default, political economy accept as its axioms the
>>fundmental tenets of collectivism."
>
>Hence Rand had her dates right, whether or not her description of the
>intellectual history is right. Thank you--that answers my question.

If one applies the term "political economy" narrowly to refer
specifically to the British classical school and not to economics in
general, then it is fair to say that Rand got her dates correct.  It
seems much more plausible, though, to argue that it was Hume (and 
to a lesser extent Smith's predecessors in the Scottish 
Enlightenment) and not Kant who created the intellectual atmosphere 
that permitted a Bentham and a J.S. Mill to sneak egregiously 
collectivistic ideas into classical political economy.

Economics was quite prominent in France and even in Scotland long 
before Kant or Smith.  While the usual mythology is that Smith 
and Ricardo founded modern economics, that honor really belongs to 
Richard Cantillon.  His treatise written sometime around 1730,  
_Essai sur la nature du commerce en general_, is the first work to 
demarcate the field of economics and give a systematic treatment of 
the theory.

Cantillon wasn't alone either.  The Physiocratic school and the great 
theorist Anne Robert Jacques Turgot were active in France well before 
Smith, and Smith's predecessors in the Scottish Enlightenment 
(Gershom Carmichael and then Francis Hutchenson) bequeathed their own 
body of economic theories (albeit less sophisticated, less 
comprehensive, and less laissez-faire in their conclusions than the 
French) to Smith.

What Smith really did was import a few French theories (but 
unfortunately not some of the more advanced conceptions of value) 
into the Scottish context, and thus introduce the English-speaking 
world to some laissez-faire ideas in a watered-down form.  Of 
particular importance was Smith's advocacy of free trade in 
international commerce, which has become a sort of holy grail of 
British political economy (even in its more collectivist variants) 
ever since.

However, unlike some of the French, Smith's pro-capitalist stands 
were not integrated in a coherent fashion to offer a rigorous 
defense of laissez-faire, so he wound up advocating a long list of 
interventionist measures instead - specifically banking regulation, 
a government monopoly of money, public works, a government postal 
monopoly, agricultural export restrictions, mandates for certain 
aspects of real estate (fire walls, mortgage registration), and 
prohibition of wages-in-kind.  Smith also was in favor of many kinds 
of taxes.

I have stressed that the corruption is associated with 
*British* political economy because economics in the 
Catholic countries on the continent remained strongly individualist 
and non-Smithian (J.B. Say being an important transmitter of this 
tradition).  Of particular importance later in the 19th Century were 
the developments in Austria, which became the homeland of 
the individualist variant of marginal utility theory and the bastion 
of the anti-Marxist/anti-positivist methodology in economics.  

Indeed, the magnificent performances of the Austrian economists Eugen von
Bohm-Bawerk in refuting Marxist economics and Carl Menger in challenging
German historicism casts strong doubt on the contention that no one 
rose against collectivism in the 19th Century.  The problem was that 
the Austrian challenge didn't really have much impact in England and 
America, where linguistic barriers and a lack of translations kept 
English-speaking economists in a state of intellectual isolation 
from the real debate.

Most economists today are still largely unaware of the ideas of the 
early Austrians and of the pre-Smithian body of economic theory.  The 
Smith-as-founder myth became entrenched because the post-Revolution 
French economists, starting with J.B. Say, found it politically 
expedient to distance themselves from their 18th Century predecessors 
(who were pro-royalist reformers, with Turgot even being Minister of 
Finance briefly) and portray themselves as Smithians instead.
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