http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet A new home for the Fleet Street Forum, ex of CompuServe, Tiscali and Smartgroups. This group is aimed at UK media professionals, including working journalists and others with an interest in journalism. 2009-11-23T13:14:41Z Google Groups Marc Beishon ma...@compuserve.com 2009-11-23T13:14:41Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/3dea1560315e582e?show_docid=3dea1560315e582e

That's certainly context alright. People taking pictures of you may <br> also work for the state. For many people, it is hard to see anything <br> neutral about someone you don't know taking a picture of you in <br> public. <br> <p>M.

Nick Ryan ryanscr...@gmail.com 2009-11-23T12:18:13Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/b89026d5b2b36906?show_docid=b89026d5b2b36906

As an adjunct, I wonder if I should offer to write a story about <br> Redwatch and the NUJ, for the Journalist? <br> <p>--- <br> <p>Nick Ryan <br> <p>author, journalist, producer <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.nickryan.net">[link]</a>

Pete Jenkins pe...@petejenkins.co.uk 2009-11-23T11:44:58Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/04e3531d8094c145?show_docid=04e3531d8094c145

I agree Chris, <br> I for one was impressed with the little that I have seen <br> <p>Kind regards <br> <p>Pete Jenkins <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.petejenkins.co.uk">[link]</a> <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.onlinepictureproof.com/petejenkins">[link]</a> <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.photographerspro.eu/pete_jenkins/">[link]</a> <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.petejenkinsphotothoughts.blogspot.com/">[link]</a> <br> <p>Member of: The National Union of Journalists

Chris Wheal ch...@whealassociates.com 2009-11-23T11:40:13Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/bb0c1b1f19822a5a?show_docid=bb0c1b1f19822a5a

Just to put this in context, the woman had worked in Chile during the <br> disappearances. She made the point that almost every person who <br> disappeared had previously had their photos published in the media <br> just before they were snatched. <br> <p>I can't remember her name and branch right now. <br> <p>Lizzie's speech is a pretty good detail of the argument. She got a

Martin Cloake martinclo...@mac.com 2009-11-23T11:23:23Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/5429ece0b204defa?show_docid=5429ece0b204defa

Errr... let's remember it is in fact &quot;unbelievably good&quot;. One person <br> tried to push an emergency motion, the organisation/conference was <br> heavily against it. It's a positive thing, a victory, an example of <br> the NUJ getting it right. <br> <p>Martin Cloake

Steve Gold s...@mail.com 2009-11-23T11:00:31Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/ce43a8d5bedec4b1?show_docid=ce43a8d5bedec4b1

Unbelievable bad on multiple fronts. <br> <p>How to shoot you and your organisation in both feet... <br> <p>How *stupid* can people be? <br> <p>Steve :( <br> <p>============================== ======= <br> Have dial tone - will travel: Skypemobile: stevewgold <br> ============================== ======= <br> <p>----- Original Message -----

John Thompson j...@journalism.co.uk 2009-11-23T10:44:07Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/1d28f88475e61637?show_docid=1d28f88475e61637

Name and branch? <br> <p>John Thompson <br> Managing Director <br> Mousetrap Media Ltd <br> 100 North Road <br> Brighton <br> East Sussex BN1 1YE <br> UNITED KINGDOM <br> <p>Company registration no: 3998973 <br> VAT no: 744 7604 19 <br> <p>tel: +44 (0)1273 384293 <br> fax: +44 (0)1273 232179 <br> mobile: +44 (0)7971 400236 <br> MSN: i...@mousetrapmedia.co.uk

Chris Wheal ch...@whealassociates.com 2009-11-23T10:42:04Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/baa94ec102b3b95d?show_docid=baa94ec102b3b95d

The woman did write an emergency motion to ban photography but it <br> never saw the light of day luckily. That was after she had terrorised <br> the students. The guy whose photo was used by Redwatch was really <br> upset at being blamed for it. It clearly was not his fault that <br> Redwatch picked up his photo.

Martin Cloake martinclo...@mac.com 2009-11-23T10:28:05Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/fe9ba7886d1407a1?show_docid=fe9ba7886d1407a1

That point did rather strike me, Pete. <br> <p>Martin Cloake

Ben Tudor ben.tu...@gmail.com 2009-11-23T10:28:06Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/280994192530e270?show_docid=280994192530e270

2009/11/23 Pete Jenkins &lt;pe...@petejenkins.co.uk&gt; <br> <p>Beat me to it. This sort of transparency is really valuable, in my opinion. <br> Ben

Pete Jenkins pe...@petejenkins.co.uk 2009-11-23T10:27:01Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/3029ac591521e361?show_docid=3029ac591521e361

Grief! On what grounds were people be asked not to take pics? <br> <p>At a journalists convention where the right to take pictures was on the <br> menu! <br> <p>Kind regards <br> <p>Pete Jenkins <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.petejenkins.co.uk">[link]</a> <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.onlinepictureproof.com/petejenkins">[link]</a> <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.photographerspro.eu/pete_jenkins/">[link]</a> <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://www.petejenkinsphotothoughts.blogspot.com/">[link]</a>

Chris Wheal ch...@whealassociates.com 2009-11-23T10:04:54Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/e7ac4a6e296a6c07?show_docid=e7ac4a6e296a6c07

It caused a bit of a stink at the time. We did a few stories on it and <br> the students became the subject of the story when a delegate demanded <br> the students stop taking photos. One student gave a compelling speech <br> on the matter, which we blogged live, have on video, tweeted and <br> reported. The site's search function seems to have picked it up OK.

Nick Ryan ryanscr...@gmail.com 2009-11-23T09:05:43Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/276e6cc675b322b9/c326cd9cc0183f55?show_docid=c326cd9cc0183f55

And the photos of &quot;red journalists&quot; standing outside are already up <br> on Redwatch ;) (looks more like a couple of student SWP but hey ...)

Nick Ryan ryanscr...@gmail.com 2009-11-20T13:02:37Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/178ca5adb1c10bee/45ec59132ab2c74a?show_docid=45ec59132ab2c74a

In China, there are 10,000+ literature websites (sure I've posted <br> this before, but anyway ...) The most popular of them hosts 800,000 <br> writers, all uploading chapters of their novels, which 4 million <br> readers then log on and read (on the site or on their mobile phones). <br> Read the first 10% of a book for free, get the rest for a few pence,

Tommy Udo tommy...@gmail.com 2009-11-20T12:54:58Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/fleetstreet/browse_frm/thread/178ca5adb1c10bee/1ac80454760db6d5?show_docid=1ac80454760db6d5

Have you heard of People Per Hour? It's a site where employers post <br> 'projects' that freelancers then pitch for. Lowest bid wins. I'm sure <br> you could find somebody there willing to do it for £3 per thou.