I ordered 3 for my daughters hoping they would arrive in time for the
new school start, but they didn't. Got them now. This one on wi fi
connection ok. but struggled at first. The one+ won't connect re wi
fi...... the other one is in school for my disabled daughter but even
the Tech guy can't find basic ed software for her. We've spent a week
searching to no avail. Elonex promised to call us back after lengthy
phone calls but didn.t anyone help with software ideas please.
Your best bet is the Dutch Trendtac user group... I have found that
gang a very helpful bunch and with the most advanced "hacking"
experience:
http://trendtac.hyves.nl/ There are a couple of thread there, specifically "Apps" and "Games"
which have a collection of interesting stuff, mainly for me VNC viewer
and Doom (!)
Your first port of call though should be this website which has a
small collection of useful software:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jostht/epc/ Ultimately you can grab and convert Debian Lenny mipsel packages
(http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages) to .xap format (the OneT's
format) with "mkxap" script available at the URL above. In short the
procedure is as follows on either a Linux box, through the OneT's
xterm or root console or in a Cygwin prompt:
1. go to a new directory, i.e. "mkdir temp", "cd temp"
2. download the .deb package from the Debian website
2. expand the .deb package with "ar -x <package name>.deb"
3. uncompress the data.tar.gz file "tar zxvf <package name>.tar.gz" in
its component directories
4. repackage the file as a .xap "mkxap <package name> directories
5. you can now go to the Software installer and install the .xap
and .info files from the "temp" directory
Please remember to check for dependancies for the Debian packages on
download page as you may need to convert those too for the binaries to
work.
It's a clunky process but I have succesfully converted a couple of
programs and it is a whole lot simpler than building a cross-compiler
environment and make your own binaries! ;-)
On the other hand there are a number of wiser people than me out there
working at getting proper debian running on this low-spec gadget and
that will make it a lot more useful.
Bear in mind that run-of-the-mill techies are not enough for hacking
this gadget... you'll need people with experience of building software
on non-x86 cpu. Or just a lot of Googling and trial and error (I'm in
this category)
Best of luck all
Regards
Dario
On Sep 17, 11:39 am, glengraph...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I ordered 3 for my daughters hoping they would arrive in time for the
> new school start, but they didn't. Got them now. This one on wi fi
> connection ok. but struggled at first. The one+ won't connect re wi
> fi...... the other one is in school for my disabled daughter but even
> the Tech guy can't find basic ed software for her. We've spent a week
> searching to no avail. Elonex promised to call us back after lengthy
> phone calls but didn.t anyone help with software ideas please.
Thanks for that - yes, it's starting to look as if the ONEt is going
to be better supported for software than I feared at first - when
looking for Debian packages as I understand it, it's the MIPSEL
version of the Etch Debian release that you need?
For the ONE and ONE+ because it has an x86 compatible cpu and an
almost standard Debian installation, it ought to be possible to use
the "apt-get" command to download quite a wide range of software - I'm
waiting for someone to post more information on any tips and wrinkles
needed for this - you obviously need to choose applications that are
not going to try and use more memory than you have on your machine -
there should be plenty of "apt-get" tutorials out there that can be
googled for those who want to experiment with this and then pass on
their knowledge.
This is one of those examples where despite the differences in
implementation on the ONEt and the ONE we may use our different
approaches to eventually download approximately the same software...
here's hoping.
Thanks Guys, but you over estimate my tech knowledge....
I tried the suggested XS4ALL site but in the Parent directory I
couldn't understand which software would be educational and with out
knowing I couldn't just download them all.
I'm a Mum and a Nan and although I might have many skills, technology
is a mystery to me. I thought I was good just to get the wi fi to work
on the ONE and ONE +, I guess it was more luck than skill.
I know that you are trying to help but I got totaly lost the minute
you said
"Ultimately you can grab and convert Debian Lenny mipsel packages"
I might handle the grabbing bit but CONVERT....wow.....
I guess I'll have to just wait until I can find something basic to
download with out me having to try and understand the converting
stuff.
If you actually have a ONE or ONE+ (the ONE has a removable keyboard)
then I'm hoping someone else in the group who actually has one will be
able to give you advice on finding software - it's likely to be along
the lines of: enable xterm for the ONE as described previously on our
blog, then run the command "apt-get update" then decide what Debian
program you want (you'll need a bit of web searching to decide this)
then "apt-get program-name" and it should all work automatically...
though for such a small (in terms of memory) machine as a ONE we will
probably need advice on which programs will actually work...
The mipsel information is very interesting. I have a copy of the
recovery file for the ONET. If somebody can advise me where to post it
happily do so. It took hours to retrieve from the Elonex Website. I
expect somebody will now tell where it can be downloaded.. ;-( I hope
it works I am bound to brick my onet whilst playing with debian stuff.
john
On Sep 18, 3:59 pm, Dario <molinari.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your best bet is the Dutch Trendtac user group... I have found that
> gang a very helpful bunch and with the most advanced "hacking"
> experience:http://trendtac.hyves.nl/ > There are a couple of thread there, specifically "Apps" and "Games"
> which have a collection of interesting stuff, mainly for me VNC viewer
> and Doom (!)
> Your first port of call though should be this website which has a
> small collection of useful software:http://www.xs4all.nl/~jostht/epc/ > Ultimately you can grab and convert Debian Lenny mipsel packages
> (http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages) to .xap format (the OneT's
> format) with "mkxap" script available at the URL above. In short the
> procedure is as follows on either a Linux box, through the OneT's
> xterm or root console or in a Cygwin prompt:
> 1. go to a new directory, i.e. "mkdir temp", "cd temp"
> 2. download the .deb package from the Debian website
> 2. expand the .deb package with "ar -x <package name>.deb"
> 3. uncompress the data.tar.gz file "tar zxvf <package name>.tar.gz" in
> its component directories
> 4. repackage the file as a .xap "mkxap <package name> directories
> 5. you can now go to the Software installer and install the .xap
> and .info files from the "temp" directory
> Please remember to check for dependancies for the Debian packages on
> download page as you may need to convert those too for the binaries to
> work.
> It's a clunky process but I have succesfully converted a couple of
> programs and it is a whole lot simpler than building a cross-compiler
> environment and make your own binaries! ;-)
> On the other hand there are a number of wiser people than me out there
> working at getting proper debian running on this low-spec gadget and
> that will make it a lot more useful.
> Bear in mind that run-of-the-mill techies are not enough for hacking
> this gadget... you'll need people with experience of building software
> on non-x86 cpu. Or just a lot of Googling and trial and error (I'm in
> this category)
> Best of luck all
> Regards
> Dario
> On Sep 17, 11:39 am, glengraph...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I ordered 3 for my daughters hoping they would arrive in time for the
> > new school start, but they didn't. Got them now. This one on wi fi
> > connection ok. but struggled at first. The one+ won't connect re wi
> > fi...... the other one is in school for my disabled daughter but even
> > the Tech guy can't find basic ed software for her. We've spent a week
> > searching to no avail. Elonex promised to call us back after lengthy
> > phone calls but didn.t anyone help with software ideas please.
Well done John - it gives the rest of us some encouragement that we
can eventually get the recovery image downloaded.
Unfortunately the maximum file storage limit on Google groups or
Google sites is 100 megabytes, so the recovery image will be too big
to store here - so it's over to anyone with capacity on their own
website to offer the space - maybe an educational establishment?
Editor wrote:
> Well done John - it gives the rest of us some encouragement that we
> can eventually get the recovery image downloaded.
> Unfortunately the maximum file storage limit on Google groups or
> Google sites is 100 megabytes, so the recovery image will be too big
> to store here - so it's over to anyone with capacity on their own
> website to offer the space - maybe an educational establishment?