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lk  
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 More options 2 Nov, 19:53
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.misc
From: "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:53:53 -0000
Local: Mon 2 Nov 2009 19:53
Subject: [8-bit] file transfer
Hi all

this is not the usual how do I transfer between a BBC and a PC.   Thanks to
Sprow - I now have one of those
brilliant Master 128 ethernet adaptors so my Master can use my NAS as its
hard drive.   No worries.

Thing is - I've completely forgotten how to move files between file systems!
As I recall if it's a basic program
I can

*ADFS
LOAD "FRED"
* TAPE
SAVE "FRED"

but what if the file's a document, an image or a piece of compiled machine
code.   As I recall (it's 20 years ago)
there were utilities to move files between say econet and adfs in bulk mode.
I now need something to go
from my CF hard drive to my NAS so effectively from ADFS to LANMANFS
preferably recursively.

Any ideas?

Cheers


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Gerald Holdsworth  
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 More options 3 Nov, 09:22
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From: "Gerald Holdsworth" <ger...@nospam.hollypops.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:22:57 -0000
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 09:22
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer
"lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com> wrote in message

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> but what if the file's a document, an image or a piece of compiled machine
> code.   As I recall (it's 20 years ago)
> there were utilities to move files between say econet and adfs in bulk
> mode. I now need something to go
> from my CF hard drive to my NAS so effectively from ADFS to LANMANFS
> preferably recursively.

Couldn't you *LOAD the file into an area of memory then *SAVE it onto the
new media?
You'll need to know the load, execution and length of the file:
eg. load &1000, exec &1F00 and length &2000
*LOAD FRED 1000
*TAPE
*SAVE FRED 1000 1F00 2000
can't remember the parameter order for *SAVE, but I'm sure a quick search on
the web would reveal this.

Gerald.


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 More options 3 Nov, 09:29
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From: "Gerald Holdsworth" <ger...@nospam.hollypops.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:29:36 -0000
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 09:29
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer

> *SAVE FRED 1000 1F00 2000
> can't remember the parameter order for *SAVE, but I'm sure a quick search
> on the web would reveal this.

*SAVE <file> <start addr> <end addr> [<exec addr> [<load addr>]]

on RISC OS it is similar, but you can have <+length> instead of <end addr>


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 More options 3 Nov, 11:57
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From: John Kortink <kort...@inter.nl.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:57:51 +0100
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 11:57
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:53:53 -0000, "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
wrote:

>Hi all

>this is not the usual how do I transfer between a BBC and a PC.   Thanks to
>Sprow - I now have one of those
>brilliant Master 128 ethernet adaptors so my Master can use my NAS as its
>hard drive.   No worries.

65Link would have gotten you that almost for free ... ;-)

>Thing is - I've completely forgotten how to move files between file systems!
>As I recall if it's a basic program
>I can

>*ADFS
>LOAD "FRED"
>* TAPE
>SAVE "FRED"

Indeed, there's no standard way to simply *COPY from
one path to another. Beyond science apparently, at
that time ... 8-/

But on a Master, instead of switching back and forth
between filing systems, it's easier to use the filing
system names in the commands. E.g. :

*LOAD -ADFS-FRED
*SAVE -TAPE-FRED

(note the hyphens). Although I presume you're not really
copying to tapes ...

>but what if the file's a document, an image or a piece of compiled machine
>code.   As I recall (it's 20 years ago)
>there were utilities to move files between say econet and adfs in bulk mode.

There's something called TreeCopy, I think.

John Kortink

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 More options 3 Nov, 14:25
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From: "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:25:26 -0000
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 14:25
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer

"John Kortink" <kort...@inter.nl.net> wrote in message

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>>this is not the usual how do I transfer between a BBC and a PC.   Thanks
>>to
>>Sprow - I now have one of those
>>brilliant Master 128 ethernet adaptors so my Master can use my NAS as its
>>hard drive.   No worries.

> 65Link would have gotten you that almost for free ... ;-)

What's 65Link?   Never heard of it.

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 More options 3 Nov, 14:33
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From: John Kortink <kort...@inter.nl.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:33:02 +0100
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 14:33
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:25:26 -0000, "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
wrote:

>"John Kortink" <kort...@inter.nl.net> wrote in message
>news:8t40f5drelmdepkdaf0djrmhbpajs52sq7@4ax.com...
>>>this is not the usual how do I transfer between a BBC and a PC.   Thanks
>>>to
>>>Sprow - I now have one of those
>>>brilliant Master 128 ethernet adaptors so my Master can use my NAS as its
>>>hard drive.   No worries.

>> 65Link would have gotten you that almost for free ... ;-)

>What's 65Link?   Never heard of it.

Well, that's understandable. It's only been around for
17 years. ;-) See :

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/J.Kortink/home/software/65link/index.htm

John Kortink

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 More options 3 Nov, 14:44
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.misc
From: "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:44:03 -0000
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 14:44
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer

"John Kortink" <kort...@inter.nl.net> wrote in message

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If it makes you feel any better I wouldn't have used that.   2 reasons:

1) my network cable is 20m long - I doubt you could knock up a PS2/user port
cable of that length and
2) My NAS is on 24/7 - I don't need to keep a PC / Linux / whatever box
running as a server.

I just download whatever - stick it on the NAS permanaently and it's there
whenever I want it.


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 More options 3 Nov, 15:14
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From: John Kortink <kort...@inter.nl.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:14:18 +0100
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 15:14
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:44:03 -0000, "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
wrote:

>"John Kortink" <kort...@inter.nl.net> wrote in message

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>> http://web.inter.nl.net/users/J.Kortink/home/software/65link/index.htm

>If it makes you feel any better I wouldn't have used that.   2 reasons:

>1) my network cable is 20m long - I doubt you could knock up a PS2/user port
>cable of that length and

Well, you can. I just wouldn't recommend transferring any
data with it ... ;-)

>2) My NAS is on 24/7 - I don't need to keep a PC / Linux / whatever box
>running as a server.

>I just download whatever - stick it on the NAS permanaently and it's there
>whenever I want it.

The utility of that depends on what 'whatever' is and
how you (can) use it. Native storage instead of NAS is
probably even more convenient. But that's probably
beyond the scope of this discussion ...

John Kortink

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 More options 3 Nov, 16:07
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From: Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date: 03 Nov 2009 16:07:49 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 16:07
Subject: Re: [8-bit] file transfer

John Kortink <kort...@inter.nl.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:53:53 -0000, "lk" <gofys...@wrong.address.com>
> wrote:
> >but what if the file's a document, an image or a piece of compiled
> >machine code.  As I recall (it's 20 years ago) there were utilities to
> >move files between say econet and adfs in bulk mode.

> There's something called TreeCopy, I think.

There's a BASIC program on the Master welcome disc to do this - maybe that
was TreeCopy?  I can't remember if it's disc to tape, or DFS to ADFS, or
ADFS only or whatever, but it could probably be modified for another filing
system.

Theo


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 More options 3 Nov, 13:12
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From: j...@arcade.demon.co.uk (Jonathan Graham Harston)
Date: 03 Nov 2009 13:12:03 +0000
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 13:12
Subject: Re: file transfer

gofyself wrote:
> I now need something to go
> from my CF hard drive to my NAS so effectively from ADFS to LANMANFS
> preferably recursively.

http://mdfs.net/Software/FileTools

TreeCopy, FileCopy, CopyFiles, MultiCopy, etc. etc. etc.

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