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T M Smith  
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 More options 23 Oct, 21:06
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.misc
From: T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:06:15 +0100
Local: Fri 23 Oct 2009 21:06
Subject: Freeuk
Further to my postings regarding the suspension my Freeuk PAYG account
service.
This has now happened and it as also taken my broadband freeuk account
out as well.
On trying freeuk I now get the error 'invalid password' from hermes.
Hopefully everything has been transfered to my alternative account.

Malcolm Smith

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Chris Hughes  
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 More options 23 Oct, 21:34
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From: Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:34:44 +0100
Local: Fri 23 Oct 2009 21:34
Subject: Re: Freeuk
In message <a661e6ae50.Broadband@thomas/smith57.ntlworld.com>
          T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Further to my postings regarding the suspension my Freeuk PAYG account
> service.
> This has now happened and it as also taken my broadband freeuk account
> out as well.

I still don't understand this part Malcolm since you have already told
us your broadband supplier is VIRGIN / NTL - so how can you have had a
freeUK broadband account?

> On trying freeuk I now get the error 'invalid password' from hermes.

To be expected.

> Hopefully everything has been transfered to my alternative account.

Have  you not tested it?

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Steve Fryatt  
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 More options 23 Oct, 23:36
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From: Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:36:02 +0100
Local: Fri 23 Oct 2009 23:36
Subject: Re: Freeuk
T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Further to my postings regarding the suspension my Freeuk PAYG account
> service. This has now happened and it as also taken my broadband freeuk
> account out as well.

What FreeUK Broadband account?  You said you used Virgin, when I asked you
to clarify before?

If you really do have a FreeUK Broadband account, then this changes the
situation a bit.

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T M Smith  
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 More options 23 Oct, 23:20
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From: T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:20:04 +0100
Local: Fri 23 Oct 2009 23:20
Subject: Re: Freeuk
In message <42fde8ae50.ch...@o2.co.uk>
          Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <a661e6ae50.Broadband@thomas/smith57.ntlworld.com>
>           T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> Further to my postings regarding the suspension my Freeuk PAYG account
>> service.
>> This has now happened and it as also taken my broadband freeuk account
>> out as well.

> I still don't understand this part Malcolm since you have already told
> us your broadband supplier is VIRGIN / NTL - so how can you have had a
> freeUK broadband account?

Who knows? until yesterday I was still down loading from Freeuk

>> On trying freeuk I now get the error 'invalid password' from hermes.

> To be expected.

>> Hopefully everything has been transfered to my alternative account.

> Have  you not tested it?

Yes, and it seems OK. Just slightly worried someone may have my old
address.

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John Sandford  
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 More options 24 Oct, 20:15
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From: John Sandford <fornewsgro...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:15:50 +0100
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 20:15
Subject: Re: Freeuk
In message <0fa2f2ae50.Broadband@thomas/smith57.ntlworld.com>
          T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

[snip]

>> I still don't understand this part Malcolm since you have already told
>> us your broadband supplier is VIRGIN / NTL - so how can you have had a
>> freeUK broadband account?
> Who knows? until yesterday I was still down loading from Freeuk

[snip]

I think he means he was still using the email address associated with
his previous FreeUK account, and downloading mail via ntl.

John

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T M Smith  
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 More options 24 Oct, 20:34
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From: T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:34:57 +0100
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 20:34
Subject: Re: Freeuk
In message <mpro.krzo3x3w5e112050r.n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
          Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> Further to my postings regarding the suspension my Freeuk PAYG account
>> service. This has now happened and it as also taken my broadband freeuk
>> account out as well.

> What FreeUK Broadband account?  You said you used Virgin, when I asked you
> to clarify before?

Sorry I cannot be making my situation clear, but then I am somewhat
confused on the subject

> If you really do have a FreeUK Broadband account, then this changes the
> situation a bit.

Well Claranet? said I was not using my PAYG freeuk account though
Hermes was downloading mail through it. It was an account I used
before I got Virgin broadband and it remained set up in my system.
The only provider I pay money to is Virgin so it is somewhat strange
that it had not been closed long ago. I do seem to be getting less
mail/news than a few days ago but have not pinpointed a reason.

Malcolm

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Steve Fryatt  
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 More options 25 Oct, 01:06
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From: Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:06:05 +0000
Local: Sun 25 Oct 2009 01:06
Subject: Re: Freeuk
T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> In message <mpro.krzo3x3w5e112050r.n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
>           Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> > T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> > If you really do have a FreeUK Broadband account, then this changes the
> > situation a bit.

> Well Claranet?

FreeUK certainly /used/ to be connected to Claranet -- it's been a long time
since I used the dialup, but IIRC they used some Claranet servers.

> said I was not using my PAYG freeuk account though Hermes was downloading
> mail through it. It was an account I used before I got Virgin broadband
> and it remained set up in my system.

That's what I thought: you do *not* have a FreeUK Broadband account (such
things do exist, hence the confusion), but a FreeUK PAYG dialup.  As with
any other ISP, you can access the FreeUK POP mailservers from any other
ISP's connection (which you're doing via Virgin), but that doesn't
constitute 'using' the account.

What FreeUK would consider 'use' is your dialing in via the 0845 number with
a modem.  That's how they make money.  They make nothing from your
downloading mail via a Virgin connection.

> The only provider I pay money to is Virgin so it is somewhat strange that
> it had not been closed long ago.

FreeUK hold the PAYG accounts for a long time with no activity, presumably
to safeguard email addresses if the user is unable to connect for a while.
When I signed up, ISTR that the advertised period was 6 months -- although
anecdotally the real period seems to be much longer.

> I do seem to be getting less mail/news than a few days ago but have not
> pinpointed a reason.

If that includes spam, then it's definitely likely -- particularly if you
used the FreeUK address on usenet or mailing lists in the past.

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 More options 25 Oct, 18:10
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.misc
From: druck <n...@druck.freeuk.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:10:17 +0000
Local: Sun 25 Oct 2009 18:10
Subject: Re: Freeuk

T M Smith wrote:
> In message <42fde8ae50.ch...@o2.co.uk>
>           Chris Hughes <n...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> In message <a661e6ae50.Broadband@thomas/smith57.ntlworld.com>
>>           T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>> Further to my postings regarding the suspension my Freeuk PAYG account
>>> service.
>>> This has now happened and it as also taken my broadband freeuk account
>>> out as well.
>> I still don't understand this part Malcolm since you have already told
>> us your broadband supplier is VIRGIN / NTL - so how can you have had a
>> freeUK broadband account?
> Who knows? until yesterday I was still down loading from Freeuk

YOU DO. Who are you paying for your broadband service?

>>> On trying freeuk I now get the error 'invalid password' from hermes.

If you are currently getting your broadband from FreeUK, this shouldn't
be happening. However if you are now getting it from Virgin/NTL and you
are trying to access the mailbox of your previous broadband accont at
FreeUK, then that explains it.

They are cutting off the mailboxes of anyone who isn't currently paying
for a dialup or broadband service. If you still want to use your freeuk
email address, you have to pay them £15 a year for a mailbox only account.

---druck


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 More options 25 Oct, 20:10
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From: "David Buck" <david.b...@freeuk.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:10:27 -0000
Local: Sun 25 Oct 2009 20:10
Subject: Re: Freeuk
"T M Smith" <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:195a67af50.Broadband@thomas/smith57.ntlworld.com...

This is what has happened to me, although FreeUK wrote offering me an annual
payment of UKP15.00 to retain the address.


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Steve Fryatt  
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 More options 25 Oct, 20:39
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From: Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:39:29 +0000
Local: Sun 25 Oct 2009 20:39
Subject: Re: Freeuk

"David Buck" <david.b...@freeuk.com> wrote:
> This is what has happened to me, although FreeUK wrote offering me an
> annual payment of UKP15.00 to retain the address.

I would need to look and see what else is available (as it's not something
that I've really bothered to investigate up to now), but that doesn't sound
too bad at a little over UKP1 per month for a stand-alone POP mail box
(particularly if you actually use the address).  To get it much cheaper, I
would guess you'd be into the Hotmail, Yahoo! or GMail territory.

Perhaps I'd better do some research before FreeUK get in touch here: it's a
FreeUK box that's hiding behind this email address, to keep it separate from
most of the rest of my email.

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T M Smith  
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 More options 25 Oct, 20:15
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From: T M Smith <thomas.smit...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:15:25 +0100
Local: Sun 25 Oct 2009 20:15
Subject: Re: Freeuk
In message <hc24as$be...@news.eternal-september.org>
          druck <n...@druck.freeuk.com> wrote:

Sorry but I made a misleading statement earlier. I do not have a
broadband freeuk account. I was accessing freeuk via my virgin
broadband account which is no longer possible.
Going to forget freeuk now and use other addresses.

Malcolm Smith

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druck  
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 More options 27 Oct, 08:15
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From: druck <n...@druck.org.uk>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:15:03 +0000
Local: Tues 27 Oct 2009 08:15
Subject: Re: Freeuk

T M Smith wrote:
> Going to forget freeuk now and use other addresses.

That's what I've done. Absolutely no point paying them money for it.

I was only using a freeuk address for newsgroup postings as historically
any address used for that received lots of spam. As newsgroups have
fallen out of popularity now, there is hardly any spam so I can use the
news address on my domain.

---druck


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