In article <bd360ceb4d.simonwillco...@home.invalid>, Simon Willcocks <simon.willco...@t-online.de> wrote:
> In message <4deadc30acsteve.pampl...@dsl.pipex.com> > Steven Pampling <steve.pampl...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > > Outlook succeeds in driving me mad every time I select text > > from the original by highlighting it and then click reply and > > the b****y thing quotes everything rather than just my selected > > section. > Neat idea, I didn't know you could do that with Messenger Pro. > Oh, wait, I can't!
Oh! That's worth suggesting as something to be added. It is very useful and convenient, and probably not difficult to implement once the idea has been put into the programmer's mind.
> Must be a Pluto thing. ;-)
It certainly is; but there's no reaon why it couldn't also be done in other apps such as M-Pro.
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Segfault <usenet-nos...@segfault.co.uk> wrote: > Chris Hughes <ch...@cumbrian.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> You might but others don't - personal opinion. If other usenet groups >> top post, then you follow that groups convention in that group and >> inline groups you follow that convention. Its called using common sense. >> You may not personally like it, but if that is the way the that group is >> working so be it.
>So, if everyone decides to jump a red light or drive on the wrong side of >the road, you suggest following suit do you?
Well, in France I /do/ drive on the other side of the road, yes. Why? Because everyone else does, and it's appropriate to follow the local custom.
I agree that everyone /ought/ to be taught to post properly, but if you're reading a newsgroup where everyone else top-posts[1] then it's politer and more sensible to conform to the local style.
[1] Personally, I'm happy to say that I don't read any such groups, because all the groups I'm interested in are full of people who know how things should be done.
In article <Z2l*sV...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Chris Joseph <chr...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> I agree that everyone /ought/ to be taught to post properly, but if > you're reading a newsgroup where everyone else top-posts then it's > politer and more sensible to conform to the local style.
It doesn't work. Unless you start with posts at the bottom and read up (from the bottom line upwards) then top posting is still wrong.
Technically bottom posting is also wrong; you should interleve and snip as required - but one extreme of interleving with short mails is the same as bottom posting.
Like this.
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In message <4deb1dc0d0j...@acornusers.org> John M Ward <j...@acornusers.org> wrote:
> In article <bd360ceb4d.simonwillco...@home.invalid>, > Simon Willcocks <simon.willco...@t-online.de> wrote: > > In message <4deadc30acsteve.pampl...@dsl.pipex.com> > > Steven Pampling <steve.pampl...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > > Outlook succeeds in driving me mad every time I select text > > > from the original by highlighting it and then click reply and > > > the b****y thing quotes everything rather than just my selected > > > section. > > Must be a Pluto thing. ;-)
> It certainly is; but there's no reaon why it couldn't also be done > in other apps such as M-Pro.
Well, ironically, I just found out that it can be done with Entourage (the Mac X version of Outlook) by holding down shift while selecting Reply! Maybe the same would work with Outlook?
In article <a3282feb4d.simonwillco...@home.invalid>, Simon Willcocks <simon.willco...@t-online.de> wrote:
[replying to a selection]
> Well, ironically, I just found out that it can be done with > Entourage (the Mac X version of Outlook) by holding down shift > while selecting Reply! Maybe the same would work with Outlook?
No, it doesn't: indeed, the Reply button click is then ignored.
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In article <1137579300.884822.249...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Adam <n...@snowstone.org.uk> wrote:
> I use google groups a lot when I'm not at home and it's OK as a > stop-gap, but if you use newsgroups at all frequently you should > find accessing them via a proper newsreader far more pleasant :-)
I agree.
And also much faster!
Google groups always seems to be a couple of days out of date at least.
> In article <1137579300.884822.249...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, > Adam <n...@snowstone.org.uk> wrote: >> I use google groups a lot when I'm not at home and it's OK as a >> stop-gap, but if you use newsgroups at all frequently you should >> find accessing them via a proper newsreader far more pleasant :-)
> I agree.
> And also much faster!
> Google groups always seems to be a couple of days out of date at > least.
This used to be the case, but I find it's now (almost) in real time, ie. posts show up on Google only minutes after you've sent them.
> And some postings are years out of date!!
I suspect that's intentional...
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In article <0001HW.BFF322F0000A1146F0284...@news.individual.net>, Steve Hodgson <ham...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't mean to be in any way inflammatory, but I have always been > curious why this particular group is more offended than most by > top-posting. Are there any technical reasons associated with the client > software available or is more historical than anything else?
From comp.periphs.printers:
---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Teti Garf <teti.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote: | > Thank you for your time. I use Times New Roman in Microsoft Office | Word
| <SNIP>
| Please don't top-post, as it makes responding difficult.
| <Further snip> | | - | Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA ----------------------------------------------------------------------
It isn't just here, and generally these are people using the dark side.
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> In article <gemini.it9err001z0cn02jc.s...@softrock.co.uk>, > VinceH <s...@softrock.co.uk> wrote: > > This is one of the reasons why, for example, back in the early > > Argonet days, one of our number patched the newsreader to work > > with the RAM disc; > I thought embedding beeps in the text was more fun :-)
I've a vague recollection of trying more than just beeps on my own copy of InterNews - a few PLOTs via the relevant VDU codes. I can't remember if it worked, though.
> In article <bd360ceb4d.simonwillco...@home.invalid>, > Simon Willcocks <simon.willco...@t-online.de> wrote: > > In message <4deadc30acsteve.pampl...@dsl.pipex.com> > > Steven Pampling <steve.pampl...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> > > Outlook succeeds in driving me mad every time I select text > > > from the original by highlighting it and then click reply and > > > the b****y thing quotes everything rather than just my selected > > > section.
> > Neat idea, I didn't know you could do that with Messenger Pro.
> > Oh, wait, I can't!
> Oh! That's worth suggesting as something to be added. It is very > useful and convenient, and probably not difficult to implement once > the idea has been put into the programmer's mind.
It's been on the request list for some considerable time... probably dropped off the bottom now. :-(
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<b...@llamaselector.com> wrote: > Chris de Cordova <decord...@ukgateway.net>: > > In article > > <1137579300.884822.249...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Adam > > <n...@snowstone.org.uk> wrote: > >> I use google groups a lot when I'm not at home and it's OK as a > >> stop-gap, but if you use newsgroups at all frequently you should > >> find accessing them via a proper newsreader far more pleasant :-)
> > I agree.
> > And also much faster!
> > Google groups always seems to be a couple of days out of date at > > least. > This used to be the case, but I find it's now (almost) in real > time, ie. posts show up on Google only minutes after you've sent > them. > > And some postings are years out of date!! > I suspect that's intentional...
I have several times looked for posts that I remember, and found that the most recent ones found by using the names or keywords that I put in precede the threads I am looking for by several years.
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> In article <slrn.2006-01-18.17-59...@candide.bas.me.uk>, Ben Shimmin > <b...@llamaselector.com> wrote: >> Chris de Cordova <decord...@ukgateway.net>:
[...]
>> > And some postings are years out of date!!
>> I suspect that's intentional...
> I have several times looked for posts that I remember, and found that > the most recent ones found by using the names or keywords that I put > in precede the threads I am looking for by several years.
Maybe the posts you were looking for were X-No-Archived?
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<b...@llamaselector.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Chris de Cordova <decord...@ukgateway.net>: > > In article <slrn.2006-01-18.17-59...@candide.bas.me.uk>, Ben > > Shimmin <b...@llamaselector.com> wrote: > >> Chris de Cordova <decord...@ukgateway.net>: > [...] > >> > And some postings are years out of date!!
> >> I suspect that's intentional...
> > I have several times looked for posts that I remember, and found > > that the most recent ones found by using the names or keywords > > that I put in precede the threads I am looking for by several > > years. > Maybe the posts you were looking for were X-No-Archived?
In article <4deb432f1aSW_NOS...@dsl.pipex.com>, Stuart
<SW_NOS...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > It isn't just here, and generally these are people using the dark side.
Coincidentally, we are just discussing this in uk.media.radio4.archers where top-posting is also frowned on - although there are only a small handful of RiscOS users.
In article <ac.f1621b4deb.a702a0mis...@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Rosemary
Miskin <mis...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote: > In article <4deb432f1aSW_NOS...@dsl.pipex.com>, Stuart > <SW_NOS...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > > It isn't just here, and generally these are people using the dark > > side. > Coincidentally, we are just discussing this in uk.media.radio4.archers > where top-posting is also frowned on - although there are only a small > handful of RiscOS users.
As opposed to a big handful? ;-))
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In article <ac.f1621b4deb.a702a0mis...@orpheusmail.co.uk>, Rosemary Miskin <mis...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Coincidentally, we are just discussing this in uk.media.radio4.archers > where top-posting is also frowned on - although there are only a small > handful of RiscOS users. > Rosemary
Also... I'm subbed with a few PaintShop Pro NGs and as far as I know there are/were only two RO user on it, and despite it being a WinPC only app NG the general consensus is interleaved or bottom reply posting is the required norm.
In article <25b1dfeb4d.ri48000...@liz13.uklinux.net>, Liz <inva...@v-liz.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <4debda998c...@ukgateway.net> > Dave Symes <d...@ukgateway.net> wrote: > > Also... I'm subbed with a few PaintShop Pro NGs and as far as I know > > there are/were only two RO user on it, > Just the one, now, I guess. > Slainte > Liz
Boohoo! All on my own. :-)
You were the other one I was thinking of Liz, I remembered you'd moved to the other graphic app, but couldn't remember if you still dabbled with PSP a bit, however Corel Version X being such an awful bug ridden dog, you are probably not missing that much... I've gone back to V9.01 for my work as no fixes seem to be coming for it.
In article <CtGdnRpijvlOlUfeRVn...@eclipse.net.uk>, Glenn
Richards <gl...@squirrelsolutions.co.uk> wrote: > Dave Braine wrote: > > Could someone explain top-posting to me please, and > > what is wrong with it. > From a FAQ somewhere...
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top posting > Q: What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
:-)
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Rosemary Miskin wrote: > In article <4deb432f1aSW_NOS...@dsl.pipex.com>, Stuart > <SW_NOS...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > > It isn't just here, and generally these are people using the dark side.
> Coincidentally, we are just discussing this in uk.media.radio4.archers where > top-posting is also frowned on - although there are only a small handful of > RiscOS users.
Quite unlike those who listen to Got for it (surely the radio equivalent of the dark side? ace!)
I'd love to see a Venn diagram of Usenet subscriptions/postings, and what is might say about us. Educated, sensible, discerning but rather conventional (in a minority interest way) for RISC OS/Archers devotees?
In article <2265caf04d.n...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
<dontuset...@address.uk.invalid> wrote: > On 27 Jan 2006 Rosemary Miskin <mis...@orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote: > > My most rapid movement of the week is the dash to switch off the > > radio after the sunday pm episode of the Archers, before Go for it > > starts! > No, no! It's rushing to switch off the radio BEFORE The Archers > starts - usually shouting "Oooooh-aaaaaarrr oooooh-aaaaaarrr" while > doing it.
Arr, me ol' pal, me ol' beauty! And how is young Shula getting on at school these days?
In article <4df0d479a5nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid>, David <nos...@nomaps.amnops.invalid> wrote:
> Arr, me ol' pal, me ol' beauty! And how is young Shula getting on at > school these days?
Spirit voices from the past?
John
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