In article <1137094757.839495.327...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Darren <dagz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Joe Butler wrote: > > What a total waste of time that clip is.
Hello. Hope you are well. I don't normally reply to people who top post but I'll assume you are new to computers and make an exception this once. If you would like a link to the newsgroup charter then let me know and I'll dig it out for you (or you could get a friend to show you how to do it)
> > It tells you nothing about moodle - why is moodle like some > > secret club, where you cannot find out what it does without > > knowing the secret handshake?.
There is a search engine that a lot of us more experienced users use called google. There are others available but google is the most popular. If you wish to find something out about moodle in google then load your web browser (I'm guessing it's Internet Explorer) and go to http://www.google.co.uk and type moodle into the empty box in the centre of your screen. If you would more help on accessing webpages or searching for more information then give me a nod. I have some resources I have been using with my year 7s which you could work through.
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Made me laugh anyway, having just read the 'Want to read an old disc' thread in here, which was more about how to stop top-posting than about reading old discs!!!
-- Chris de Cordova
The severity of the itch is proportional to the reach.
In article <4de9bc2221decord...@ukgateway.net>, Chris de Cordova <decord...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> Here's another way of doing it!! (from uk.education.schools-it)
Yes...
Kept for future use, as and when it becomes necessary.
-- John Ward in Medway, Kent - using RISC OS since 1987 Now using an Iyonix, an A9home, 2 RiscPCs and Virtual-RPC! Acorn/RISC OS web page: www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers Read my "Councilling RISC OS" series in Qercus, from Issue 276 onward
In article <4de9bea196j...@acornusers.org>, John M Ward <j...@acornusers.org> wrote:
> In article <4de9bc2221decord...@ukgateway.net>, > Chris de Cordova <decord...@ukgateway.net> wrote: > > Here's another way of doing it!! (from uk.education.schools-it) > Yes... > Kept for future use, as and when it becomes necessary.
It was used against someone who did know better! ;-)
-- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing
In article <1137417753.799698.232...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Dave Braine <d...@pilot.pprune.com> wrote:
> Could someone explain top-posting to me please,
Top-posting is when someone replies at the top of a message/posting, reproducing the (often entire) message they are replying to (and sometimes all the previous messages) underneath.
It is due to thoughtless acceptance of where some software places the cursor/caret and ignorance. Ignorance of the following points:
> and what is wrong with it.
1. It is wasteful of bandwidth, in that (often) far more of the previous message(s) is reproduced than is necessary, wasting 'bandwidth'. ('bandwidth' often equates to 'money' for those on dial-up).
2. It is less clear exactly which bit of the message is being replied to - one has to search below to find the context of the message for each point.
3. It is nowhere near as clear as properly snipped interleaved replying, which allows logical response to material point-by-point.
4. It (here) contravenes the established practice and gets up everyone's nose.
Having said that, it seems to be perfectly acceptable on some news groups (I have heard), and there the advice of 'lurking' before posting to find out the accepted method of posting is wise counsel.
That doesn't make it 'right', though.
John
-- John Williams, Wirral, Merseyside, UK - no attachments to these addresses! Non-RISC OS posters change user to johnrwilliams or put 'risc' in subject for reliable contact! Who is John Williams? http://www.picindex.info/author/
In article <1137417753.799698.232...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Dave Braine <d...@pilot.pprune.com> wrote:
> Chris de Cordova wrote:
> > Made me laugh anyway, having just read the 'Want to read an old disc' > > thread in here, which was more about how to stop top-posting than > > about reading old discs!!!
> Could someone explain top-posting to me please, and what is wrong with > it.
-- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing
John Williams (News) wrote: > In article <1137417753.799698.232...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > Dave Braine <d...@pilot.pprune.com> wrote:
> > Could someone explain top-posting to me please,
Thanks for that John. Immediately after I posted, I looked at the "Want to read old discs" thread where it explained it. Which is why I deleted my post from here.
In message <1137417753.799698.232...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Dave Braine" <d...@pilot.pprune.com> wrote:
> Chris de Cordova wrote:
>> Made me laugh anyway, having just read the 'Want to read an old disc' >> thread in here, which was more about how to stop top-posting than >> about reading old discs!!!
> Could someone explain top-posting to me please, and what is wrong with > it.
John Williams (News) wrote: > 4. It (here) contravenes the established practice and gets up > everyone's nose.
5. Message the of flow the follow *impossible* is it responses inline and bottom, top of mixture a use thread a on respondents where.
6. Whilst posting without quoting any context (aka misuse of Google Groups) is common it must be remembered that top posting encourages quoting of the complete context of *EVERY* message in reverse order - without the respondent displaying any brain power. It is far too common to see two words of new content top posted over several kilobytes of unedited previous context.
6a. How many people scroll up and down in a message and *DO NOT* notice your response because the first line is:
Me too!XXX wrote in message...
7. If you want people to respond to your post it is unreasonable to expect them to spend an inordinate amount of time rearranging your response in query your answer to order.
8. Top posting, common on M$ Usenet groups, is not the expected practice due to the way that people want to respond to messages but rather due to a specific fault in popular M$ Usenet packages which by default place the input focus above the message being responded to.
9. Bored now...
> Having said that, it seems to be perfectly acceptable on some news groups > (I have heard), and there the advice of 'lurking' before posting to find > out the accepted method of posting is wise counsel.
Accepted or not there is a discontinuity that is introduced through top posting that personally I find unacceptable.
Anyways, Jon Ripley -- http://jonripley.com/ Winner of all the 1-2K classic text adventure competitions.
> John Williams (News) wrote: >> 4. It (here) contravenes the established practice and gets up >> everyone's nose.
> 5. Message the of flow the follow *impossible* is it responses inline > and bottom, top of mixture a use thread a on respondents where.
> 6. Whilst posting without quoting any context (aka misuse of Google > Groups) is common it must be remembered that top posting encourages > quoting of the complete context of *EVERY* message in reverse order - > without the respondent displaying any brain power. It is far too common > to see two words of new content top posted over several kilobytes of > unedited previous context.
> 6a. How many people scroll up and down in a message and *DO NOT* notice > your response because the first line is:
> Me too!XXX wrote in message...
> 7. If you want people to respond to your post it is unreasonable to > expect them to spend an inordinate amount of time rearranging your > response in query your answer to order.
> 8. Top posting, common on M$ Usenet groups, is not the expected practice > due to the way that people want to respond to messages but rather due to > a specific fault in popular M$ Usenet packages which by default place > the input focus above the message being responded to.
You were doing quite well until you got to this point. It applies to *all* usenet packages on all platforms including RISC OS ! Its not a fault, it the way they all work since we have not yet got AI usenet packages!!
> 9. Bored now...
>> Having said that, it seems to be perfectly acceptable on some news groups >> (I have heard), and there the advice of 'lurking' before posting to find >> out the accepted method of posting is wise counsel.
> Accepted or not there is a discontinuity that is introduced through top > posting that personally I find unacceptable.
You might but others don't - personal opinion. If other usenet groups top post, then you follow that groups convention in that group and inline groups you follow that convention. Its called using common sense. You may not personally like it, but if that is the way the that group is working so be it.