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Michael Bell  
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 More options 8 Oct, 22:57
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From: Michael Bell <mich...@beaverbell.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:57:51 +0100
Local: Wed 8 Oct 2008 22:57
Subject: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite
Increasingly correspondents are sending me Word files of .docx
filetype, which I cannot open in Techwrite as I could with older
documents of .doc filetype.

Is there a work-round?

Michael Bell

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Andrew Hill  
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 More options 8 Oct, 23:37
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From: Andrew Hill <u...@example.net>
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:37:54 +0100
Local: Wed 8 Oct 2008 23:37
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite

Michael Bell wrote:
> Increasingly correspondents are sending me Word files of .docx
> filetype, which I cannot open in Techwrite as I could with older
> documents of .doc filetype.

> Is there a work-round?

Unfortunately yes: tell them not to!

Office 2007 has a totally different file format to all the earlier
versions of Word, and nothing except Office 2007 (to my knowledge) reads
them.

Most commercial companies won't accept .Docx format documents either for
similar reasons.

Office 2007 allows them to save all files as .docs, or indeed .pdf
files, and the best advice would be to ask them to resend as one of
those; a simple 'I don't have Office 2007' is suffice without explaining
you don't use Windows at all ;-).

Best wishes,

Drew


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Steve Fryatt  
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 More options 8 Oct, 23:59
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From: Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:59:55 +0100
Local: Wed 8 Oct 2008 23:59
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite
On 8 Oct, Andrew Hill  wrote in message
  <BpSdnavf1PjUq3DVnZ2dnUVZ8qPin...@posted.plusnet>:

> Michael Bell wrote:

> > Increasingly correspondents are sending me Word files of .docx
> > filetype, which I cannot open in Techwrite as I could with older
> > documents of .doc filetype.

> > Is there a work-round?

> Unfortunately yes: tell them not to!

> Office 2007 has a totally different file format to all the earlier
> versions of Word, and nothing except Office 2007 (to my knowledge) reads
> them.

There are import filters available for Word 2003: a quick search of
Microsoft's website should turn them up fairly easily.  ISTR that there's
also a free viewer.

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Harriet Bazley  
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 More options 9 Oct, 01:03
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From: Harriet Bazley <baz...@feathermail.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:03:57 +0100
Local: Thurs 9 Oct 2008 01:03
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite
On 8 Oct 2008 as I do recall,
          Michael Bell  wrote:

> Increasingly correspondents are sending me Word files of .docx
> filetype, which I cannot open in Techwrite as I could with older
> documents of .doc filetype.

> Is there a work-round?

I seem to remember these turn out to be zipped archives containing
(among other files) the document body as an XML file;  Netsurf can read
these, if appropriately filetyped (i.e. as HTML)

You won't get the original layout but you should get the gist.

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bibb and bacon  
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 More options 9 Oct, 02:32
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From: bibb and bacon <biba...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:32:49 +0100
Local: Thurs 9 Oct 2008 02:32
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite

Steve Fryatt wrote:
> On 8 Oct, Andrew Hill  wrote in message
>   <BpSdnavf1PjUq3DVnZ2dnUVZ8qPin...@posted.plusnet>:

>>Michael Bell wrote:

>>>Increasingly correspondents are sending me Word files of .docx
>>>filetype, which I cannot open in Techwrite as I could with older
>>>documents of .doc filetype.

There are two ways in which you could convert the file to something more
useful:-

1 Use the site www.zamzar.com to convert  the file to .doc or HTML
file. I have used this a couple of times and it seems to work OK. I
don't think there are any issues with the site.

2 See http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/jun/21/comment.comment1
This article makes it plain that the .docx files are archives. When the
archive is opened it is  the file document.xml which is needed. But
instead of loading the file document.xml into a browser as suggested
load it into zap or edit to clean it up. I have  got by this method a
file which could be loaded into Impressions. It needs a little
experimentation.

Hope this is some help

D Bibb


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Russell Hafter News  
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 More options 9 Oct, 09:15
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From: Russell Hafter News <see....@walkingingermany.invalid>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:15:02 +0100
Local: Thurs 9 Oct 2008 09:15
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite
In article <e49f44eb4f.st...@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk>,
   Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> On 8 Oct, Andrew Hill  wrote in message
>   <BpSdnavf1PjUq3DVnZ2dnUVZ8qPin...@posted.plusnet>:
> > Michael Bell wrote:
> > > Increasingly correspondents are sending me Word files
> > > of .docx filetype, which I cannot open in Techwrite
> > > as I could with older documents of .doc filetype.
> > > Is there a work-round?
> > Unfortunately yes: tell them not to!
> > Office 2007 has a totally different file format to all
> > the earlier versions of Word, and nothing except
> > Office 2007 (to my knowledge) reads them.
> There are import filters available for Word 2003: a quick
> search of Microsoft's website should turn them up fairly
> easily.  ISTR that there's also a free viewer.

There are a number of converters out there.

Using Google, I found and downloaded a Windows file called
odf-converter-integrator-0.1.5-installer.exe.

Runing this installs the converter.

If you then double click on a .docx file, the converter
saves the equivalent file in .odt format (Open Document -
text), which Open Office then loads normally.

If you need it in Word format, Open Office will save as .doc

Although Easiwriter will read many Word files, I still find
I need Open Office (slow, clunky, but useful) to read MSWord
docs with very large graphics or ones with complex text
boxes.

Like EW, Open Office will also export as PDF too.

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Theo Markettos  
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 More options 9 Oct, 13:00
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From: Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date: 09 Oct 2008 13:00:45 +0100 (BST)
Local: Thurs 9 Oct 2008 13:00
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite
bibb and bacon <biba...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> 2 See http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/jun/21/comment.comment1
> This article makes it plain that the .docx files are archives. When the
> archive is opened it is  the file document.xml which is needed. But
> instead of loading the file document.xml into a browser as suggested
> load it into zap or edit to clean it up. I have  got by this method a
> file which could be loaded into Impressions. It needs a little
> experimentation.

FYI the same applies to OpenOffice .odt, .ods etc files.

You'll get the text but not the formatting unless you have something that
understands the XML.

Theo


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Jess  
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 More options 18 Oct, 09:19
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From: Jess <phantasm...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:19:32 +0100
Local: Sat 18 Oct 2008 09:19
Subject: Re: Difficulties reading the Microsoft filetype .docx in Techwrite
In message <e49f44eb4f.st...@helvellyn.stevefryatt.org.uk>
          Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> On 8 Oct, Andrew Hill  wrote in message
>   <BpSdnavf1PjUq3DVnZ2dnUVZ8qPin...@posted.plusnet>:
>> Unfortunately yes: tell them not to!

>> Office 2007 has a totally different file format to all the earlier
>> versions of Word, and nothing except Office 2007 (to my knowledge) reads
>> them.
> There are import filters available for Word 2003: a quick search of
> Microsoft's website should turn them up fairly easily.  ISTR that there's
> also a free viewer.

Interestingly the import filters work on earlier versions of word too
(word 97) they also work on the free viewer (otherwise it just views
2003 and earlier).

I have no idea if it works on word 95 or works, but it wouldn't
surprise me if it did.

Openoffice 3 is supposed to support it too.

Since Microsoft have managed to get it accepted as a proper standard
and we have no support for ODF either, we could be in the unusual
position (for us) of having to request a closed proprietary format
when someone offers a standard format.

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