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Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

d...@davenoise.co.uk (Dave Plowman (News)) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 14:46:27 UT

In article <fe66dad54f.dougjw...@btopenwo rld.com>,
That's not the full story cost wise - you may well have apps that have to
be upgraded simply to work on OS 6. At a cost.
Although I did do so, I afterwards went back to 4.39 on this RPC. Far
fewer problems. Some of the problems I had it seems were well known about

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

ch...@cjemicros.co.uk (Chris Evans) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 11:07:49 UT

In article <a2b1a4d54f.n...@user.minijem. plus.com>, Richard Porter
Only a small proportion of Kinetics had their OS in Flash chips on the card!
IIRC the way to tell physically is if there are unpopulated chip pad sets on
the card.
Chris Evans

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk (Graeme Wall) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 09:34:54 UT

In message <fe66dad54f.dougjw...@btopenwo rld.com>
I wasn't aware such a thing existed to be honest.
That I appreciate, after all that is what the Select scheme is about.

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

doug.j.w...@btinternet.com (Doug Webb) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 08:59:26 UT

In message <4333d8d54f%Gra...@greywall.de mon.co.uk>
Well you could have brought the £49 CD softload of RISC OS 6 which is
available to the general public like a lot of people have over the
past year. This is the full release of RISC OS 6 for a single machine
but does not entitle you to any updates to RISC OS 6 that may be added

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

t...@is.invalid (John Tytgat) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 08:56:46 UT

Strange, doesn't match my experience.
Select 4i4, no ?
John.

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk (Graeme Wall) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 08:35:22 UT

In message <6hn486Fmsjo...@mid.individual .net>
I mean one available to the general public, not members of an arcane
subscription scheme.

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk (Graeme Wall) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 08:36:21 UT

In message <4fd5d3920aUCE...@tiscali.co.u k>
Been a bit warm for jumpers, I'll try the third drawer down...

Re: tee pc

n...@rjek.com (Rob Kendrick) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 08:14:58 UT

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:52:52 -0700
And we've already established that for general purpose code compiled by
GCC, using ARMv5 makes no difference. (Well, in the order of
millionths of a percent.)
B.

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

spam...@apdl.co.uk (David Holden) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 08:00:05 UT

RO 6.10 is by *far* the most stable OS I've used on any RISC OS computer. I
can switch between 4.02, 4.39 and 6.10 on my main RPC and the only reason I
revert to older OS's it for software testing, and then I get back to RO 6
asap.
I don't know what you mean by 'a full upgrade'. If you mean a version in ROM

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

uce...@tiscali.co.uk (John Williams (News)) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:48 UT

In article <924ccdd54f%Gra...@greywall.de mon.co.uk>,
Have you looked in the wash basket?
John

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk (Graeme Wall) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 06:36:18 UT

In message <a2b1a4d54f.n...@user.minijem. plus.com>
[snip]
Erk! Where do I find the jumper?

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

gra...@greywall.demon.co.uk (Graeme Wall) — Wed, 08 Aug 2008 21:47:05 UT

In message <4fd592b087d...@triffid.co.uk>
I got the impression when the scheme was first announced that it was for
people who were willing and able to be guinea pigs for OS developments, the
pay-back being first dibs at the new toys on offer. I still use my RiscPC
for business and am not interested, or really capable, in testing new

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

n...@pittdj.co.uk (David Pitt) — Thu, 08 Aug 2008 06:08:18 UT

I eventually got off the bus, it was the wrong route that went nowhere near
the Iyonix.
The thought did occur that once one is in a legacy only situation as I am
with my 26bit platforms the last thing I need is somebody fiddling with the
OS, if a change broke PipeDream4 those 26bit platforms would be a bit

Re: tee pc

pe...@chocky.org (Peter Naulls) — Wed, 08 Aug 2008 23:52:52 UT

Probably true, but ARM926 is also ARMv5, unlike the 920, which is ARMv4.
That only has much bearing inasmuch as what you set your RISC OS
compiling options to for best performance (assuming a RISC OS
existed for this device, which it doesn't ;-).
Yes, it's also true that every ARM chip is a little bit different

Re: RiscPC & Kinetic

dontuset...@address.uk.invalid (Richard Porter) — Wed, 08 Aug 2008 23:12:47 UT

The date being 27 Aug 2008, Martin <m...@shrewsbury.org.uk> decided to
write:
I think my 6.10 is Select 4i4. Anyway note that the Kinetic board has
it's own memory apart from 2MB of video RAM on the mother board. Also
when you fit 4.39 ROMs you need to change a jumper setting on the
Kinetic board to tell it to look in the ROMs on the mother board,