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Andrew  
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 More options 4 Nov, 13:45
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From: Andrew <aw29...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:45:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed 4 Nov 2009 13:45
Subject: Printer driver
What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
emulation HP printer? The printer is ~£170 on Amazon

Andrew


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Ollie Clark  
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 More options 4 Nov, 15:52
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From: Ollie Clark <use...@ollieclark.com>
Date: 04 Nov 2009 15:52:11 GMT
Local: Wed 4 Nov 2009 15:52
Subject: Re: Printer driver

Andrew wrote:
> What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
> emulation HP printer? The printer is ~£170 on Amazon

The MW Software Postscript 3 driver, I'd imagine:

http://www.mw-software.com/software/ps3/ps3.html

Cheers,

Ollie


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Theo Markettos  
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 More options 4 Nov, 16:57
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From: Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Date: 04 Nov 2009 16:57:18 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Wed 4 Nov 2009 16:57
Subject: Re: Printer driver

Ollie Clark <use...@ollieclark.com> wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
> > What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
> > emulation HP printer? The printer is ~?170 on Amazon

> The MW Software Postscript 3 driver, I'd imagine:

Or there's the Postscript 2 driver included with RISC OS.  At least until
you get annoyed with it (which might never happen, depending on what you
print).

Theo


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Andrew  
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 More options 4 Nov, 20:33
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From: Andrew <n...@email.invalid>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:33:50 GMT
Local: Wed 4 Nov 2009 20:33
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In message <Miv*BY...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
          Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

> Ollie Clark <use...@ollieclark.com> wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
>>> emulation HP printer? The printer is ~?170 on Amazon

>> The MW Software Postscript 3 driver, I'd imagine:
> Or there's the Postscript 2 driver included with RISC OS.  At least until
> you get annoyed with it (which might never happen, depending on what you
> print).

Thanks both. The printer is a HP colour laser. Do they cause much
trouble?

Andrew

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Alan Adams  
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 More options 4 Nov, 22:31
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From: Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:31:29 GMT
Local: Wed 4 Nov 2009 22:31
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In message <0ff016b550.And...@no.reply>
          Andrew <n...@email.invalid> wrote:

> In message <Miv*BY...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>           Theo Markettos <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> Ollie Clark <use...@ollieclark.com> wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
>>>> emulation HP printer? The printer is ~?170 on Amazon

>>> The MW Software Postscript 3 driver, I'd imagine:
>> Or there's the Postscript 2 driver included with RISC OS.  At least until
>> you get annoyed with it (which might never happen, depending on what you
>> print).
> Thanks both. The printer is a HP colour laser. Do they cause much
> trouble?

I like them.

Two things to keep in mind. There is a menu option (only from the
front panel on some models) to ignore "toner empty" state. It gets
anywhere from 10% to 50% more from a toner cartridge. The downside is
that when the cart is really empty, you get printout missing as
colour. Annoying halfway through the second side of a long print run.

Some models (1600, 1017, and a few others in that family) lose the
static IP address assigned to them, and revert to DHCP. It seems to
happen after an extended period switched off, and in my experience of
several, only about once a year. The best solution requires a DHCP
server which can handle reservations, so a DHCP adress is permanently
assigned to a hardware address.

Second best is a sticker on the machine with it's correct IP address,
so it can be reset when it forgets.

(If the address isn't static it's difficult to impossible to set up
printing from RISC OS. It works until a different address gets
assigned, then blackholes all printouts.)

> Andrew

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Steve Fryatt  
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 More options 4 Nov, 22:54
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From: Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 22:54:07 +0000
Local: Wed 4 Nov 2009 22:54
Subject: Re: Printer driver

Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
> Some models (1600, 1017, and a few others in that family) lose the static
> IP address assigned to them, and revert to DHCP. It seems to happen after
> an extended period switched off, and in my experience of several, only
> about once a year. The best solution requires a DHCP server which can
> handle reservations, so a DHCP adress is permanently assigned to a
> hardware address.

Some broadband routers will do this, which helps.  Don't ask me for a list
of which ones, but the Netgear DG834 does.

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Andrew  
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 More options 5 Nov, 10:46
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From: Andrew <aw29...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:46:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 10:46
Subject: Re: Printer driver
On 4 Nov, 22:31, Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:

Why would I need an IP address for a USB printer?

Andrew


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Alan Adams  
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 More options 5 Nov, 16:07
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From: Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:07:34 GMT
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 16:07
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In message <2e354b1a-e02c-4fb1-aefe-f2984d3e3...@b15g2000yqd.googlegro
ups.com>
          Andrew <aw29...@gmail.com> wrote:

You didn't say which printer. A lot of the HP Lasers are network
printers (as well as USB).

> Andrew

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John Williams (News)  
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 More options 5 Nov, 16:16
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From: "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:16:39 +0100
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 16:16
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In article <596582b550.Alan.Ad...@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams

<a...@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
> You didn't say which printer.

He said, in article
<3a563df4-5dc3-4d61-8707-37b37cf1e...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>:

> What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
> emulation HP printer?

John

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Alan Adams  
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 More options 5 Nov, 16:55
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From: Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:55:22 GMT
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 16:55
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In message <50b5833a6bUCE...@tiscali.co.uk>
          "John Williams (News)" <UCE...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <596582b550.Alan.Ad...@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams
> <a...@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
>> You didn't say which printer.
> He said, in article
> <3a563df4-5dc3-4d61-8707-37b37cf1e...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>:
>> What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level 3
>> emulation HP printer?

Exactly. that covers almost the entire HP range.

> John

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Tim Hill  
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 More options 6 Nov, 18:50
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From: Tim Hill <t...@invalid.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:50:24 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 18:50
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In article <0ff016b550.And...@no.reply>, Andrew <n...@email.invalid>
wrote:

> In message <Miv*BY...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo Markettos
>           <theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > Ollie Clark <use...@ollieclark.com> wrote:
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >>> What RISC OS driver would I require for a HP PCL6  Postscript Level
> >>> 3 emulation HP printer? The printer is ~?170 on Amazon

> >> The MW Software Postscript 3 driver, I'd imagine:
> > Or there's the Postscript 2 driver included with RISC OS.  At least
> > until you get annoyed with it (which might never happen, depending on
> > what you print).
> Thanks both. The printer is a HP colour laser. Do they cause much
> trouble?

I caused a problem by buying cheap 'compatible' toner which turned its
insides and some of my office - not to mention the inside of the hoover -
yellow. Other than that I find it very reliable though the windoze
toolbox software hogs the processor and had to be uninstalled.

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Alan Adams  
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 More options 6 Nov, 22:43
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From: Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:43:52 GMT
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 22:43
Subject: Re: Printer driver
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          Tim Hill <t...@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

How did I forget that! The general advice with HP printers is NOT to
run the setup program if you can possibly avoid it. Instead, unpack
the files and stop. Among the files will be a .inf file.

(If you use Start, Run, %temp%, you will probably find the unpacked
files appear in there. Copy them somewhere else before clicking Cancel
on the installer. To make things easy to spot, you can generally empty
the temp folder at will - anything currently required will be locked.)

Plug the printer in, if USB, or use Add printer if network, and when
asked to select a printer use Have Disc. Browse to the .inf file.

The result is that you only install the printer driver - not the HP
Updater, which tends to stop the computer shutting down properly, or
the toolbox, a CPU hog, or the image applications or...

If you are instaling the printer on a domain controller, the above
process is definitely required, otherwise the whole network will be
impacted.

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Brian Carroll  
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 More options 7 Nov, 07:56
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From: Brian Carroll <bric-nos...@argonet.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:56:47 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 07:56
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In article <ed832ab650.Alan.Ad...@laptop.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan

Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <50b6152421...@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill
>           <t...@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> > ... Other than that I find it
> > very reliable though the windoze toolbox software hogs the
> > processor and had to be uninstalled.
> How did I forget that! The general advice with HP printers is
> NOT to run the setup program if you can possibly avoid it. ...

 I did just that yesterday :-(

[Snip how to avoid doing that]

> The result is that you only install the printer driver - not
> the HP Updater, which tends to stop the computer shutting
> down properly, or the toolbox, a CPU hog, or the image
> applications or...

Can I uninstall these independently?

Brian.

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Alan Adams  
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 More options 7 Nov, 11:04
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From: Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:04:50 GMT
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 11:04
Subject: Re: Printer driver
In message <50b65d229dbric-nos...@argonet.co.uk>
          Brian Carroll <bric-nos...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

I haven't managed to uninstall HP updater. However you can set it to
"update never", which works reasonably well.

The others can be removed, although you will probably find quite a lot
of things in "add/remove programs", whose purpose isn't immediately
obvious. All the ones you need to look at start "HP".

> Brian.

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 More options 7 Nov, 19:14
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From: Graham Thurlwell <nos...@jades.org>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:14:55 GMT
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 19:14
Subject: Re: Printer driver
On the 4 Nov 2009, Steve Fryatt <n...@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> Alan Adams <a...@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>> The best solution requires a DHCP server which can handle
>> reservations, so a DHCP adress is permanently assigned to a
>> hardware address.
> Some broadband routers will do this, which helps.  Don't ask me for a list
> of which ones, but the Netgear DG834 does.

The Netgear DGN2000 does as well (we've just got one to use with the
Omega). You can even configure it using RISC OS (Firefox or Oregano
2)!

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