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Jeremy Brayshaw  
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 More options 26 Mar 2007, 10:13
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
From: Jeremy Brayshaw <jer...@brayshaw.org.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:13:43 +0100
Local: Mon 26 Mar 2007 10:13
Subject: Re: Future of Risc OS

Franz Werner wrote:
> Jeremy Brayshaw wrote:

> So you may not be able to see a use for a software solution, I can.

Well, I agree with you when you take web cam images into consideration
- but that's a different use to VoIP!

>> By definition, VoIP cannot deal with anything other than voice!

> Then in the long term it will die.

Maybe, but not until after normal telephone calls die, which I suspect
will be a very long time yet!

>> Skype is a closed protocol, so it can't be developed by anyone but
>> Skype themselves.

> I'm not bothered as long as it works for what I want to do.

Yes, I agree that such a distinction doesn't really impinge on a users
point of view. But my point is that it is impossible for anyone to
create Skype software for any system, let alone RISC OS, other than
Skype themselves. So it's not an issue that any RISC OS developer can
possibly solve.

>>We already have an MSN client for RISC OS - this
>> would be the most sensible option to develop for web cam use, but
>> that's different to VoIP!

> Can you see it happening?

Well, actually I can. The MSN client for RISC OS is being actively
developed. I guess it is a case of making a webcam facility a top
priority for them - in other words, a lot of demand from users - then
throwing money at the problem. If RComp knew there was enough demand
for them to make money with this upgrade, I'm sure they would do it.

>> As for 'cluttering the desk top with electronic gizmos', my VoIP
>> adaptor is nobbut a large bulge in the wire - not what I would call
>> 'clutter'!

> It also cost you twenty quid. The Skype software is free.

My guess is that Skype software is free now because they want to build
a large userbase. When everyone is 'hooked' I suspect they will charge
for using the service. As no-one else can use their protocols, they
will have a captive market. So I would suggest using it whilst it is
free, but be prepared to move to another system when they start
charging! Maybe I'm wrong (I often am!). But either way, Skype will
never be interested in writing a client for RISC OS, and no-one else
is able to.

> Yes and no.  There is a snag. My grandson's mum has a Mac. The MSN
> client for that doesn't appear to do camera either which is why we
> went for Skype.

We're drifting a bit off a RISC OS topic here, but there are MSN
clients for MacOS which do make use of a webcam - Microsoft's own
version doesn't, but try aMSN, which is the one I use on the Mac.
Maybe that could even be ported to RISC OS, as I think it is
open-source?

Jeremy.

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