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Paul Beverley  
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 More options 27 Aug, 20:28
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps
From: Paul Beverley <p...@archivepub.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:28:07 +0100
Local: Wed 27 Aug 2008 20:28
Subject: AVG versus Messenger on VRPC
Hi All

I was just checking the virus vault on my Windows AVG virus software
and I found that, in the vault, were three files in Messenger's
!NewsDir directory in the Spool folder.

This had me a little worried, so I checked for the files mentioned and,
sure enough, they weren't inside !NewsDir.MsgServe.Spool.0.whatever
anymore.

I checked the 'Group' files in the two directories from which the
three files had been removed, and they were Messenger's 'Wastebasket'
and 'Spam' folders.

What if AVG decides (erroneously, of course) that one of the more
important files inside !NewsDir is a virus?!?!

One thing I have noticed is that the files inside Spool are not
compressed, i.e. they are perfectly readable if you shift-double-click
them into a text editor.

Now, I seem to remember that there's an option in MessPro (I'm using
v. 4.24) to choose to store compressed or non-compressed, but I can't
find where it's set (assuming I didn't imagine it). Might it be a way
of avoiding the AVG problem?

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

All the best,

Paul

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Rob Kendrick  
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 More options 27 Aug, 20:42
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From: Rob Kendrick <n...@rjek.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:42:28 +0100
Local: Wed 27 Aug 2008 20:42
Subject: Re: AVG versus Messenger on VRPC
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:28:07 +0100

Paul Beverley <p...@archivepub.co.uk> wrote:
> What if AVG decides (erroneously, of course) that one of the more
> important files inside !NewsDir is a virus?!?!

Then you should send a sample of the file to Grisoft so they can fix
their scanning patterns to remove the false positive.  Of course, it's
also perfectly likely that it /is/ detecting viruses/worms that have
found their way to you.

> One thing I have noticed is that the files inside Spool are not
> compressed, i.e. they are perfectly readable if you shift-double-click
> them into a text editor.

> Now, I seem to remember that there's an option in MessPro (I'm using
> v. 4.24) to choose to store compressed or non-compressed, but I can't
> find where it's set (assuming I didn't imagine it). Might it be a way
> of avoiding the AVG problem?

Depends how it compresses them.  If it compresses them in a way AVG
understands, it won't help.

B.


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Peter Naulls  
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 More options 27 Aug, 20:46
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From: Peter Naulls <pe...@chocky.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:46:13 -0700
Local: Wed 27 Aug 2008 20:46
Subject: Re: AVG versus Messenger on VRPC

Paul Beverley wrote:
> Hi All

> I was just checking the virus vault on my Windows AVG virus software
> and I found that, in the vault, were three files in Messenger's
> !NewsDir directory in the Spool folder.

> This had me a little worried, so I checked for the files mentioned and,
> sure enough, they weren't inside !NewsDir.MsgServe.Spool.0.whatever
> anymore.

Yes, I have seen this, and it's a PITA.   All the more reason
not to use Windows, IMO.   At least Windows viruses won't
run on RISC OS.

> Now, I seem to remember that there's an option in MessPro (I'm using
> v. 4.24) to choose to store compressed or non-compressed, but I can't
> find where it's set (assuming I didn't imagine it). Might it be a way
> of avoiding the AVG problem?

Perhaps, but you shouldn't expect all the files to be compressed
all the time.  And in my setup, it picked them up from POPStar, which
you may or may not be using.

You might be able to disable AVG for VRPC's directory, I forget
exactly, it was a while ago.


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David Pitt  
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 More options 28 Aug, 06:49
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From: David Pitt <n...@pittdj.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:49:38 +0100
Local: Thurs 28 Aug 2008 06:49
Subject: Re: AVG versus Messenger on VRPC

It has been a while since I last used MPro, so I hope I remember this
correctly. The compression setting variable is CompressionCutoff  in
!NewsDir.MsgServe.Config, for no compression the value is 0, the default was
100 I think.

AVG8 can be configured to leave nominated directories alone in Tools ->
Advanced settings -> Resident Shield -> Exceptions.

Given that the spool files are already uncompressed it may that AVG is
responding to spam flags in the message headers, if your ISP does any spam
checking that is.

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David Pitt


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Paul Beverley  
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 More options 28 Aug, 07:38
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From: Paul Beverley <p...@archivepub.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:38:16 +0100
Local: Thurs 28 Aug 2008 07:38
Subject: Re: AVG versus Messenger on VRPC
In message <20080827204228.37bd9...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>
          Rob Kendrick <n...@rjek.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:28:07 +0100
> Paul Beverley <p...@archivepub.co.uk> wrote:

> > What if AVG decides (erroneously, of course) that one of the more
> > important files inside !NewsDir is a virus?!?!

> Then you should send a sample of the file to Grisoft so they can fix
> their scanning patterns to remove the false positive.  Of course, it's
> also perfectly likely that it /is/ detecting viruses/worms that have
> found their way to you.

Of course it is! Silly me! After all, they were in my Spam directory
and my Wastebasket (where spam goes).

> > One thing I have noticed is that the files inside Spool are not
> > compressed, i.e. they are perfectly readable if you shift-double-click
> > them into a text editor.

> > Now, I seem to remember that there's an option in MessPro (I'm using
> > v. 4.24) to choose to store compressed or non-compressed, but I can't
> > find where it's set (assuming I didn't imagine it). Might it be a way
> > of avoiding the AVG problem?

> Depends how it compresses them.  If it compresses them in a way AVG
> understands, it won't help.

Right, so I'll leave it all alone and stop panicking unnecessarily! :-)

All the best,

Paul

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