> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Scott Guthrie, a general manager in Microsoft's developer division, blogged
>| ahead of Adobe's AIR and Flex news that Silverlight 2 would feature a
>| cross-platform version of its .NET Framework and let developers program
>| Silverlight content using any .NET language.  
> `----

> http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/02/25/microsoft_adobe_ria_internet...

> It's *not* cross-platform. They keep lying about it. They attack HTML, Flash,
> LAMP, and Ajax. The US and EU regulators are already after them for
> Silverlight abuses.

>> Microsoft and Adobe jockey on rich applications

>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Scott Guthrie, a general manager in Microsoft's developer division, blogged
>>| ahead of Adobe's AIR and Flex news that Silverlight 2 would feature a
>>| cross-platform version of its .NET Framework and let developers program
>>| Silverlight content using any .NET language.  
>> `----

>> http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/02/25/microsoft_adobe_ria_internet...

>> It's *not* cross-platform. They keep lying about it. They attack HTML, Flash,
>> LAMP, and Ajax. The US and EU regulators are already after them for
>> Silverlight abuses.

> Roy, you are flat out lying on this.  Microsoft itself makes Silverlight
> available on both the PC and Mac.  That makes it cross platform.  That
> doesn't even include Moonlight.

> Why do you lie like this?

>>> Microsoft and Adobe jockey on rich applications

>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>| Scott Guthrie, a general manager in Microsoft's developer division,
>>>| blogged ahead of Adobe's AIR and Flex news that Silverlight 2 would
>>>| feature a cross-platform version of its .NET Framework and let developers
>>>| program Silverlight content using any .NET language.
>>> `----

>>> It's *not* cross-platform. They keep lying about it. They attack HTML,
>>> Flash, LAMP, and Ajax. The US and EU regulators are already after them for
>>> Silverlight abuses.

>> Roy, you are flat out lying on this.  Microsoft itself makes Silverlight
>> available on both the PC and Mac.  That makes it cross platform.  That
>> doesn't even include Moonlight.

>> Why do you lie like this?

> Erik does have a point, though we do have a problem as
> well.  Silverlight is available on at least two platforms,
> the aforementioned MacOSX as well as Windows.  That it is not
> available for Linux doesn't make it non-multiplatform,
> though I for one am very annoyed at the lack of support
> for what is an increasingly popular OS.  (Presumably, the
> FreeBSD crowd will be annoyed as well, in their newsgroup.)

> Besides, this is COLA anyway. ;-)

> There is some good news:
> http://www.mono-project.com/news/archive/2007/May-05.html
> http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9731410-7.html

> And there's some bad news.  Gentoo does not recognize "moonlight"
> as a package name.

> Make of all this what one will.

>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Erik Funkenbusch
>> <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
>>  wrote
>> on Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:05:56 -0500
>> <616pr0bnwabh....@funkenbusch.com>:
>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:46:28 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>>>> Microsoft and Adobe jockey on rich applications

>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>| Scott Guthrie, a general manager in Microsoft's developer division,
>>>>| blogged ahead of Adobe's AIR and Flex news that Silverlight 2 would
>>>>| feature a cross-platform version of its .NET Framework and let developers
>>>>| program Silverlight content using any .NET language.
>>>> `----

> http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/02/25/microsoft_adobe_ria_internet...

>>>> It's *not* cross-platform. They keep lying about it. They attack HTML,
>>>> Flash, LAMP, and Ajax. The US and EU regulators are already after them for
>>>> Silverlight abuses.

>>> Roy, you are flat out lying on this.  Microsoft itself makes Silverlight
>>> available on both the PC and Mac.  That makes it cross platform.  That
>>> doesn't even include Moonlight.

>>> Why do you lie like this?

>> Erik does have a point, though we do have a problem as
>> well.  Silverlight is available on at least two platforms,
>> the aforementioned MacOSX as well as Windows.  That it is not
>> available for Linux doesn't make it non-multiplatform,
>> though I for one am very annoyed at the lack of support
>> for what is an increasingly popular OS.  (Presumably, the
>> FreeBSD crowd will be annoyed as well, in their newsgroup.)

>> Besides, this is COLA anyway. ;-)

>> There is some good news:
>> http://www.mono-project.com/news/archive/2007/May-05.html
>> http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9731410-7.html

> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070507-mono-developers-to-brin...

> http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/05/04/linux-silverli...

>> And there's some bad news.  Gentoo does not recognize "moonlight"
>> as a package name.

>> Make of all this what one will.

> My original post was fine. The Microsoft Agent just wants to warp things to
> discredit. More explanation here, if the Agent is interested.
> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/26/microsoft-redefines-cross-platform/

>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Erik Funkenbusch
>>> <e...@despam-funkenbusch.com>
>>>  wrote
>>> on Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:05:56 -0500
>>> <616pr0bnwabh....@funkenbusch.com>:
>>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:46:28 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>>>>> Microsoft and Adobe jockey on rich applications

>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>| Scott Guthrie, a general manager in Microsoft's developer division,
>>>>>| blogged ahead of Adobe's AIR and Flex news that Silverlight 2 would
>>>>>| feature a cross-platform version of its .NET Framework and let
>>>>>| developers program Silverlight content using any .NET language.
>>>>> `----

>>>>> It's *not* cross-platform. They keep lying about it. They attack HTML,
>>>>> Flash, LAMP, and Ajax. The US and EU regulators are already after them
>>>>> for Silverlight abuses.

>>>> Roy, you are flat out lying on this.  Microsoft itself makes Silverlight
>>>> available on both the PC and Mac.  That makes it cross platform.  That
>>>> doesn't even include Moonlight.

>>>> Why do you lie like this?

>>> Erik does have a point, though we do have a problem as
>>> well.  Silverlight is available on at least two platforms,
>>> the aforementioned MacOSX as well as Windows.  That it is not
>>> available for Linux doesn't make it non-multiplatform,
>>> though I for one am very annoyed at the lack of support
>>> for what is an increasingly popular OS.  (Presumably, the
>>> FreeBSD crowd will be annoyed as well, in their newsgroup.)

>>> Besides, this is COLA anyway. ;-)

>>> There is some good news:
>>> http://www.mono-project.com/news/archive/2007/May-05.html
>>> http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9731410-7.html

>>> And there's some bad news.  Gentoo does not recognize "moonlight"
>>> as a package name.

>>> Make of all this what one will.

>> My original post was fine. The Microsoft Agent just wants to warp things to
>> discredit. More explanation here, if the Agent is interested.
>> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/26/microsoft-redefines-cross-platform/

> Hmm....well, it's still dual-platform, anyway.  Of course ideally it
> would be open-sourced, compileable, and alterable as well, with some
> variant of the GPL or LGPL. ;)

>> My original post was fine. The Microsoft Agent just wants to warp things to
>> discredit. More explanation here, if the Agent is interested.
>> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/26/microsoft-redefines-cross-platform/

> No, Roy.  You lied.  Silverlight is cross platform.  Microsoft has not
> re-defined the meaning.

> Cross platform does not mean "runs on all platforms", it means "runs on
> more than one platform".  You are the one trying to redefine it.

> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=cross-platform

> "cross-platform software, hardware
> A term that describes a language, software application or hardware device
> that works on more than one system platform (e.g. Unix, Microsoft Windows,
> Macintosh). E.g. Netscape Navigator, Java."

> http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Cross%20platform

> "Cross-platform, or multi-platform, is a term which can refer to computer
> programs, operating systems, computer languages, programming languages, or
> other computer software and their implementations which can be made to work
> on multiple computer platforms. For example, a cross-platform application
> may run on Microsoft Windows on the x86 architecture, Linux on the x86
> architecture and Mac OS X on either the PowerPC based Apple Macintosh or
> the x86 based Apple Macintosh systems. A cross-platform application could
> run on all common platforms, *OR SIMPLY MORE THAN ONE*"

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform

> " ´Cross-platform¡ and ´multi-platform¡ both refer to the idea that a given
> piece of computer software is able to be run on more than one computer
> platform."

> So please, Roy, spare us the "redefinition" bullshit.  By all credible
> sources (ie, not you) "cross platform" means "more than one", not "all" or
> "if it doesn't run on Linux it's not cross platform".

>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:04:50 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>>> My original post was fine. The Microsoft Agent just wants to warp things to
>>> discredit. More explanation here, if the Agent is interested.
>>> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/26/microsoft-redefines-cross-platform/

>> No, Roy.  You lied.  Silverlight is cross platform.  Microsoft has not
>> re-defined the meaning.

>> Cross platform does not mean "runs on all platforms", it means "runs on
>> more than one platform".  You are the one trying to redefine it.

>> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=cross-platform

>> "cross-platform software, hardware
>> A term that describes a language, software application or hardware device
>> that works on more than one system platform (e.g. Unix, Microsoft Windows,
>> Macintosh). E.g. Netscape Navigator, Java."

>> http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Cross%20platform

>> "Cross-platform, or multi-platform, is a term which can refer to computer
>> programs, operating systems, computer languages, programming languages, or
>> other computer software and their implementations which can be made to work
>> on multiple computer platforms. For example, a cross-platform application
>> may run on Microsoft Windows on the x86 architecture, Linux on the x86
>> architecture and Mac OS X on either the PowerPC based Apple Macintosh or
>> the x86 based Apple Macintosh systems. A cross-platform application could
>> run on all common platforms, *OR SIMPLY MORE THAN ONE*"

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform

>> " ´Cross-platform¡ and ´multi-platform¡ both refer to the idea that a given
>> piece of computer software is able to be run on more than one computer
>> platform."

>> So please, Roy, spare us the "redefinition" bullshit.  By all credible
>> sources (ie, not you) "cross platform" means "more than one", not "all" or
>> "if it doesn't run on Linux it's not cross platform".

> And once again Roy Schestowitz attempts to debate and ends up gong down in
> flames.

> No wonder he prefers to crap flood.

>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:04:50 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>>>> My original post was fine. The Microsoft Agent just wants to warp things to
>>>> discredit. More explanation here, if the Agent is interested.
>>>> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/26/microsoft-redefines-cross-platform/

>>> No, Roy.  You lied.  Silverlight is cross platform.  Microsoft has not
>>> re-defined the meaning.

>>> Cross platform does not mean "runs on all platforms", it means "runs on
>>> more than one platform".  You are the one trying to redefine it.

>>> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=cross-platform

>>> "cross-platform software, hardware
>>> A term that describes a language, software application or hardware device
>>> that works on more than one system platform (e.g. Unix, Microsoft Windows,
>>> Macintosh). E.g. Netscape Navigator, Java."

>>> http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Cross%20platform

>>> "Cross-platform, or multi-platform, is a term which can refer to computer
>>> programs, operating systems, computer languages, programming languages, or
>>> other computer software and their implementations which can be made to work
>>> on multiple computer platforms. For example, a cross-platform application
>>> may run on Microsoft Windows on the x86 architecture, Linux on the x86
>>> architecture and Mac OS X on either the PowerPC based Apple Macintosh or
>>> the x86 based Apple Macintosh systems. A cross-platform application could
>>> run on all common platforms, *OR SIMPLY MORE THAN ONE*"

>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform

>>> " ´Cross-platform¡ and ´multi-platform¡ both refer to the idea that a given
>>> piece of computer software is able to be run on more than one computer
>>> platform."

>>> So please, Roy, spare us the "redefinition" bullshit.  By all credible
>>> sources (ie, not you) "cross platform" means "more than one", not "all" or
>>> "if it doesn't run on Linux it's not cross platform".

>> And once again Roy Schestowitz attempts to debate and ends up gong down in
>> flames.

>> No wonder he prefers to crap flood.

> We have proven that Silverlight is multi-platform (for multi=2, anyway)
> and that it is not open-source.  Half the battle, I guess.