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Re: Microsoft's Scott Guthrie Lies About/Twists "Cross-platform" to Hijack Web

Hadron <hadronqu...@googlemail.com>

Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut> writes:
> * Miguel de Icaza peremptorily fired off this memo:

>>> 1) ... What proportion of Mono uses Microsoft's patented technology,
>>> including that which is is part of the ECMA specifications?

>> Read our policy on patents (Microsoft or otherwise):

>> http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_Licensing

>> Which is not different than any other open source project.

> It sure as hell is different:

LOL, Liarnut is getting all frisky.

Thread slink inevitable.

Bitch slapped by Schilling and heading for a slap from the original
Gnome developer.

Is no real OSS contributor safe from the know all arseholes in COLA?

> Both the Mono runtime and the Mono C# Compiler are also available
> under a proprietary license for those who can not use the LGPL and
> the GPL in their code.

> For licensing details, contact mono-licens...@novell.com
> (mailto:mono-licens...@novell.com)

>>> 3) ... To what degree do you Trust Microsoft, either in terms of their
>>> promises; their motivations; or their commitment to a competing platform
>>> like Linux?

>> This is a question that is suitable for Teen magazine or Cosmo.

>>> 4) ... Do you foresee a point in the future where access to much of the
>>> Web might be impossible, or at least extraordinarily difficult, without
>>> the use of Silverlight, much like Microsoft tried to do with ActiveX and
>>> other proprietary; encumbered; and non-standard technology during the
>>> Netscape years?

>> Another question suitable for Teen magazine.

>> I have blogged extensively about this question, you might want to read
>> my blog on those subjects. There are two dimensions to this problem,
>> and I have addressed both: a) Microsoft providing a tool that
>> people actually want to use, with a feature range of things that
>> are genuinely useful while nobody else is;

> Isn't that statement rather, uh, arrogant?

What telling you he has already provided the information and has no
intention of typing it all in again you can ignore it and carry on
squealing like a little girl? No, it isn't. It is eminently sensible.

>> (b) whether its good for Linux to be a second class citizen on the web
>> when you are unable to watch content.

> You need to rephrase it. The question is whether it is good to convert
> citizens into second-class citizens on the web by virtue of restricting
> their access to content to a format promulgated by a large, powerful,
> and dominant corporation, requiring the relatively expensive purchase of
> a proprietary (and unlicensed for production by any other vendor)
> operating system.

What a load of hot air.