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 More options 3 Mar 2008, 16:51
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Linonut <lino...@bollsouth.nut>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:51:57 -0500
Local: Mon 3 Mar 2008 16:51
Subject: Re: Microsoft's Scott Guthrie Lies About/Twists "Cross-platform" to Hijack Web
* Miguel de Icaza peremptorily fired off this memo:

>> 1) ... What proportion of Mono uses Microsoft's patented technology,
>> including that which is is part of the ECMA specifications?

> Read our policy on patents (Microsoft or otherwise):

> http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_Licensing

> Which is not different than any other open source project.

It sure as hell is different:

   Both the Mono runtime and the Mono C# Compiler are also available
   under a proprietary license for those who can not use the LGPL and
   the GPL in their code.

   For licensing details, contact mono-licens...@novell.com
   (mailto:mono-licens...@novell.com)

>> 3) ... To what degree do you Trust Microsoft, either in terms of their
>> promises; their motivations; or their commitment to a competing platform
>> like Linux?

> This is a question that is suitable for Teen magazine or Cosmo.

>> 4) ... Do you foresee a point in the future where access to much of the
>> Web might be impossible, or at least extraordinarily difficult, without
>> the use of Silverlight, much like Microsoft tried to do with ActiveX and
>> other proprietary; encumbered; and non-standard technology during the
>> Netscape years?

> Another question suitable for Teen magazine.

> I have blogged extensively about this question, you might want to read
> my blog on those subjects.  There are two dimensions to this problem,
> and I have addressed both: a) Microsoft providing a tool that
> people actually want to use, with a feature range of things that
> are genuinely useful while nobody else is;

Isn't that statement rather, uh, arrogant?

> (b) whether its good for Linux to be a second class citizen on the web
> when you are unable to watch content.

You need to rephrase it.  The question is whether it is good to convert
citizens into second-class citizens on the web by virtue of restricting
their access to content to a format promulgated by a large, powerful,
and dominant corporation, requiring the relatively expensive purchase of
a proprietary (and unlicensed for production by any other vendor)
operating system.

--
We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and
underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself
be lulled into inaction.
   -- Bill Gates


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