,----[ Quote ] | Mandriva, in my opinion, has the best KDE | implementation around. They proved it once | again with this release. The KDE edition is | just awesome. I have not looked at the | GNOME edition yet. Having used Mandriva’s | GNOME edition for the past year and a half, | I think that would be just as great. I am | anyway giving it a spin in the coming days. | I would definitely recommend Mandriva 2010 | to any one who wants to get started with | Linux or try out a great distribution. `----
,----[ Quote ] | For beginner to expert it is the excellent | distro, a perfect window killer and better | then Windows any version whether its | XP,Vista or 7. So what you are looking for | try once and forget everything. `----
,----[ Quote ] | Altogether Mandriva seems to have a good | interface and a lot going for it beneath | the surface. Perhaps the only annoying | part about it is it has a very commercial | feel and comes with links on the desktop | offering Mandriva products. `----
,----[ Quote ] | Exploring further, we see the control | center has seen some changes and has a nice | clean new layout. Another one of Mandriva's | strong suits is there control center and | it's integrated applications. All work very | well and make for a nice overall experience | for the end user. We quite like the layout | and the organization they've put into this | release. `----
,----[ Quote ] | Mandriva 2010.0, or "Adelie" if you prefer | to use its codename, promises to be | snappier than previous versions, including | faster boot times. It's built around the | Linux 2.6.31 kernel, which means improved | hardware support as well, and the feature- | list unrolls from there. `----
,----[ Quote ] | One of the more interesting features of | Mandriva 2010, albeit early days, is the | focus on what is being called the "task- | orientated desktop". Mandriva 2010 includes | several Nepomuk services which help users | to manage tasks across all applications. | Using the task widget and the Tasktop | application users can group items - such as | emails, notes, web pages and so on - | together around specific tasks. `----
,----[ Quote ] | I’m very pleased to say that Mandriva 2010 is | now out! Checkout What’s New! Also see the | Release Notes and Errata. | | Myself and the rest of the Mandriva Developers and Contributors have put in a lot of work this | time round. I’m pretty happy with the | PulseAudio->Phonon integration work I did for | KDE which builds on our previous approaches | which were not quite as functional | (although did at least hide potential | configuration problems from users unlike on | some distros! (for which the usual | “solution” was a urpme/yum remove/apt- | remove pulseaudio rather than actually | finding the real cause!) `----
On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
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> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
WoW <vistas...@yahoo.com> writes: > On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1
>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's > Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating > System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for > out-of-the-box experience.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:38:23 +0100, Hadron wrote: > WoW <vistas...@yahoo.com> writes:
>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1
>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for >> out-of-the-box experience.
>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for >>> out-of-the-box experience.
He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should drop their current one and go with that one.
Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best >>>> for out-of-the-box experience.
> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should > drop their current one and go with that one.
> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We > would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day > over many other more entrenched distributions.
That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
-- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>>>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best >>>>> for out-of-the-box experience.
>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >> drop their current one and go with that one.
>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >> over many other more entrenched distributions.
> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition for > you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to do that.
You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you know why not.
>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>>>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best >>>>> for out-of-the-box experience.
>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >> drop their current one and go with that one.
>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >> over many other more entrenched distributions.
> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition for > you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
0b quirk! "Hadron" & "honest" do not fit together.
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>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >>> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >>> over many other more entrenched distributions.
>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to do > that.
> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you > know why not.
Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
-- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >>> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >>> over many other more entrenched distributions.
>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
> 0b quirk! "Hadron" & "honest" do not fit together.
Yes, it was a rhetorical question!
-- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >>>> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >>>> over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >>> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to do >> that.
>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you >> know why not.
> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you > simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you about anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to Mandriva which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded recently.
This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest you sit back and increase your meds....
>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>>>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. >>>>> We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the >>>>> day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >>>> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to >>> do that.
>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you >>> know why not.
>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you >> simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you about > anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to Mandriva > which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded recently.
> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons > why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest you > sit back and increase your meds....
...and there go the goal posts again!!!
-- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>>>>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best >>>>>> for out-of-the-box experience.
>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >>> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >>> over many other more entrenched distributions.
>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition for >> you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
> 0b quirk! "Hadron" & "honest" do not fit together.
If he provides honest and compelling reasons how can he be ridiculed.
Honestly. Some of you "advocates" are bordering on insane.
He made a claim about it being "so much better" or whatever, now he is being asked to describe WHY and HOW. As usual no facts or real opinions, just fanboi raving and Useless Dumb Willy piling in with .... yup! nothing whatsoever!
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>>>>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. >>>>>> We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the >>>>>> day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >>>>> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to >>>> do that.
>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you >>>> know why not.
>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you >>> simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you about >> anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to Mandriva >> which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded recently.
>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest you >> sit back and increase your meds....
> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
I moved NO goal posts. So, lets recap :
He tells people Mandriva rocks and people should move.
I ask for reasons why.
You appear flapping around.
I repeat the request for reasons WHY he thinks we should move.
You then tell ME to "enlighten us".
I remind you that it was NOT me making claims about Mandriva.
No goal posts moved.
No requests changed.
All that happened is that you came in, shilled by Dumb Willy, got lost in your own fanboi flappings as you got carried away and are now stranded high and dry with no where to go.
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>>>>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. >>>>>> We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the >>>>>> day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >>>>> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to >>>> do that.
>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you >>>> know why not.
>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you >>> simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you about >> anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to Mandriva >> which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded recently.
>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest you >> sit back and increase your meds....
> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
But of course. It didn't suit the troll's argument.
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>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>>>>>>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an >>>>>>>>>> Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the >>>>>>>>>> absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >>>>>>> drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. >>>>>>> We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the >>>>>>> day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the ammunition >>>>>> for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at least be honest.
>>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason to >>>>> do that.
>>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And you >>>>> know why not.
>>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you >>>> simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you about >>> anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to Mandriva >>> which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded recently.
>>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >>> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest you >>> sit back and increase your meds....
>> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
> But of course. It didn't suit the troll's argument.
But Dumb Willy : I never had an "argument". It was NOT me telling people to move distros. Are you insane or merely sub average IQ?
Once more : he made claims that people should move to Mandriva. I asked WHY and for him to give specific reasons.
No goal posts moved. Not ME making ANY claims.
Do you never tire of looking like a clueless fool?
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, >>>>>>>>>> it's Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from >>>>>>>>>> an Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is >>>>>>>>>> the absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people >>>>>>> should drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for >>>>>>> many. We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his >>>>>>> distro of the day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the >>>>>> ammunition for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at >>>>>> least be honest.
>>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason >>>>> to do that.
>>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And >>>>> you know why not.
>>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you >>>> simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you >>> about anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to >>> Mandriva which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded >>> recently.
>>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >>> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest >>> you sit back and increase your meds....
>> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
> I moved NO goal posts. So, lets recap :
> He tells people Mandriva rocks and people should move.
> I ask for reasons why.
> You appear flapping around.
> I repeat the request for reasons WHY he thinks we should move.
> You then tell ME to "enlighten us".
> I remind you that it was NOT me making claims about Mandriva.
> No goal posts moved.
> No requests changed.
> All that happened is that you came in, shilled by Dumb Willy, got lost > in your own fanboi flappings as you got carried away and are now > stranded high and dry with no where to go.
> Why dont YOU tell us why people should move then?
> Go on. "Advocate" Mandriva. I need a good laugh.
I don't use Mandriva you idiot, and further, I enjoy leading you up the garden path, showing you the flowers and then stamping on your foot and skipping away laughing!
You just don't get it, do you dimbo?
-- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, >>>>>>>>>>> it's Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from >>>>>>>>>>> an Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is >>>>>>>>>>> the absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people >>>>>>>> should drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for >>>>>>>> many. We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his >>>>>>>> distro of the day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the >>>>>>> ammunition for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at >>>>>>> least be honest.
>>>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason >>>>>> to do that.
>>>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And >>>>>> you know why not.
>>>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because you >>>>> simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>>>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you >>>> about anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to >>>> Mandriva which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded >>>> recently.
>>>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >>>> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest >>>> you sit back and increase your meds....
>>> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
>> I moved NO goal posts. So, lets recap :
>> He tells people Mandriva rocks and people should move.
>> I ask for reasons why.
>> You appear flapping around.
>> I repeat the request for reasons WHY he thinks we should move.
>> You then tell ME to "enlighten us".
>> I remind you that it was NOT me making claims about Mandriva.
>> No goal posts moved.
>> No requests changed.
>> All that happened is that you came in, shilled by Dumb Willy, got lost >> in your own fanboi flappings as you got carried away and are now >> stranded high and dry with no where to go.
>> Why dont YOU tell us why people should move then?
>> Go on. "Advocate" Mandriva. I need a good laugh.
> I don't use Mandriva you idiot, and further, I enjoy leading you up the > garden path, showing you the flowers and then stamping on your foot and > skipping away laughing!
> You just don't get it, do you dimbo?
So let me get this straight : you talking nonsense, telling lies and generally being a moron is you leading me up the garden path.
OK.
If that's what lights your fire. I rarely killfile : but clearly you are totally and utterly useless. I can tell from your "I was joking and you fell for it" defence. You were being dense and had not properly read the thread. Lucky for your ego I use adaptive scoring ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz >>>>>>>>>>>> <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, >>>>>>>>>>>> it's Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from >>>>>>>>>>>> an Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is >>>>>>>>>>>> the absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people >>>>>>>>> should drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for >>>>>>>>> many. We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his >>>>>>>>> distro of the day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the >>>>>>>> ammunition for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at >>>>>>>> least be honest.
>>>>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>>>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason >>>>>>> to do that.
>>>>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And >>>>>>> you know why not.
>>>>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because >>>>>> you simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>>>>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you >>>>> about anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to >>>>> Mandriva which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded >>>>> recently.
>>>>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >>>>> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest >>>>> you sit back and increase your meds....
>>>> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
>>> I moved NO goal posts. So, lets recap :
>>> He tells people Mandriva rocks and people should move.
>>> I ask for reasons why.
>>> You appear flapping around.
>>> I repeat the request for reasons WHY he thinks we should move.
>>> You then tell ME to "enlighten us".
>>> I remind you that it was NOT me making claims about Mandriva.
>>> No goal posts moved.
>>> No requests changed.
>>> All that happened is that you came in, shilled by Dumb Willy, got lost >>> in your own fanboi flappings as you got carried away and are now >>> stranded high and dry with no where to go.
>>> Why dont YOU tell us why people should move then?
>>> Go on. "Advocate" Mandriva. I need a good laugh.
>> I don't use Mandriva you idiot, and further, I enjoy leading you up the >> garden path, showing you the flowers and then stamping on your foot and >> skipping away laughing!
>> You just don't get it, do you dimbo?
> So let me get this straight : you talking nonsense, telling lies and > generally being a moron is you leading me up the garden path.
> OK.
> If that's what lights your fire. I rarely killfile : but clearly you are > totally and utterly useless. I can tell from your "I was joking and you > fell for it" defence. You were being dense and had not properly read the > thread. Lucky for your ego I use adaptive scoring ...
You rarely killfile? Please killfile me dick head! -- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:39:42 -0600, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote: > He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should > drop their current one and go with that one.
Mandriva is not "yet another distro". They have been around for over 10 years. I used them (as Mandrake) between Debian (my first) and Ubuntu/Mint. I will check out Mandriva 2010 for sure. Looks like something I would want to consider using.
> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should. > It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We > would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day > over many other more entrenched distributions.
Again, Mandriva is an old established distro. What brought me to stop using it was the confusing business practices they implemented a few years ago. It was some club you needed to pay to be a member of to get to download certain non-free software. They ended up having several editions and I could never really get what I needed to get. The concept was too complicated for me to get into, so I went to Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz >>>>>>>>>>>>> <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from >>>>>>>>>>>>> an Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is >>>>>>>>>>>>> the absolute best for out-of-the-box experience.
>>>>>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people >>>>>>>>>> should drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for >>>>>>>>>> many. We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his >>>>>>>>>> distro of the day over many other more entrenched distributions.
>>>>>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the >>>>>>>>> ammunition for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at >>>>>>>>> least be honest.
>>>>>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>>>>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>>>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD reason >>>>>>>> to do that.
>>>>>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>>>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. And >>>>>>>> you know why not.
>>>>>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because >>>>>>> you simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>>>>>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you >>>>>> about anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move to >>>>>> Mandriva which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded >>>>>> recently.
>>>>>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific reasons >>>>>> why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I would suggest >>>>>> you sit back and increase your meds....
>>>>> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
>>>> I moved NO goal posts. So, lets recap :
>>>> He tells people Mandriva rocks and people should move.
>>>> I ask for reasons why.
>>>> You appear flapping around.
>>>> I repeat the request for reasons WHY he thinks we should move.
>>>> You then tell ME to "enlighten us".
>>>> I remind you that it was NOT me making claims about Mandriva.
>>>> No goal posts moved.
>>>> No requests changed.
>>>> All that happened is that you came in, shilled by Dumb Willy, got lost >>>> in your own fanboi flappings as you got carried away and are now >>>> stranded high and dry with no where to go.
>>>> Why dont YOU tell us why people should move then?
>>>> Go on. "Advocate" Mandriva. I need a good laugh.
>>> I don't use Mandriva you idiot, and further, I enjoy leading you up the >>> garden path, showing you the flowers and then stamping on your foot and >>> skipping away laughing!
>>> You just don't get it, do you dimbo?
>> So let me get this straight : you talking nonsense, telling lies and >> generally being a moron is you leading me up the garden path.
>> OK.
>> If that's what lights your fire. I rarely killfile : but clearly you are >> totally and utterly useless. I can tell from your "I was joking and you >> fell for it" defence. You were being dense and had not properly read the >> thread. Lucky for your ego I use adaptive scoring ...
> You rarely killfile? Please killfile me dick head!
Don't count on it.. He said he'd binned Snit, but it turns out he lied about it. (What a surprise).
- -- Linux. The Malicious Software Removal tool which wipes Windows from your PC in seconds!
"Linux as a desktop OS is pretty much doomed it would appear. Too little too late. " Hadron: Message-ID: <fnd3jj$or...@registered.motzarella.org>
ceed <cdposter-use...@yahoo.com> writes: > On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:39:42 -0600, Hadron <hadronqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should >> drop their current one and go with that one.
> Mandriva is not "yet another distro". They have been around for over 10 > years. I used them (as Mandrake) between Debian (my first) and
So it is yet another distro.
> Ubuntu/Mint. I will check out Mandriva 2010 for sure. Looks like something > I would want to consider using.
Why? I asked the other guy. Still no reply.
>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should. >> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We >> would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day >> over many other more entrenched distributions.
> Again, Mandriva is an old established distro. What brought me to stop
So what?
> using it was the confusing business practices they implemented a few years > ago. It was some club you needed to pay to be a member of to get to > download certain non-free software. They ended up having several editions > and I could never really get what I needed to get. The concept was too > complicated for me to get into, so I went to Ubuntu.
That's nice.
But meanwhile we are looking for why this poster thinks people should jump ship from one distro to move to this one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from an Operating System. A derivative of Mandriva, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for out-of-the-box >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people >>>>>>>>>>> should drop their current one and go with that one.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
>>>>>>>>>>> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for >>>>>>>>>>> many. We would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his >>>>>>>>>>> distro of the day over many other more entrenched >>>>>>>>>>> distributions.
>>>>>>>>>> That's not true, Hardon. You just want WoW to provide the >>>>>>>>>> ammunition for you to attempt to belittle him. Why can't you at >>>>>>>>>> least be honest.
>>>>>>>>> Well, Don/Ray or whoever, I am afraid it IS true.
>>>>>>>> Don/Ray? That sounds like a Mafia boss... Don Ray, the Don's Don!
>>>>>>>>> He made a call to move to a distro and offered NOT ONE GOOD >>>>>>>>> reason to do that.
>>>>>>>>> You call that advocacy? I call it fanboi nonsense.
>>>>>>>>> Why can he not be specific in HOW its so much better? I know. >>>>>>>>> And you know why not.
>>>>>>>> Why don't you enlighten us, oh enlightened one. Or is it because >>>>>>>> you simply don't like KDE, the default WM in Mandriva?
>>>>>>> What the hell are you talking about? Why should I "enlighten" you >>>>>>> about anything? Once again : it is NOT me telling people to move >>>>>>> to Mandriva which is a derivative of a Distro which almost folded >>>>>>> recently.
>>>>>>> This guy is telling people to move. I am asking for specific >>>>>>> reasons why. If this is too difficult for you to understand I >>>>>>> would suggest you sit back and increase your meds....
>>>>>> ...and there go the goal posts again!!!
>>>>> I moved NO goal posts. So, lets recap :
>>>>> He tells people Mandriva rocks and people should move.
>>>>> I ask for reasons why.
>>>>> You appear flapping around.
>>>>> I repeat the request for reasons WHY he thinks we should move.
>>>>> You then tell ME to "enlighten us".
>>>>> I remind you that it was NOT me making claims about Mandriva.
>>>>> No goal posts moved.
>>>>> No requests changed.
>>>>> All that happened is that you came in, shilled by Dumb Willy, got >>>>> lost in your own fanboi flappings as you got carried away and are >>>>> now stranded high and dry with no where to go.
>>>>> Why dont YOU tell us why people should move then?
>>>>> Go on. "Advocate" Mandriva. I need a good laugh.
>>>> I don't use Mandriva you idiot, and further, I enjoy leading you up >>>> the garden path, showing you the flowers and then stamping on your >>>> foot and skipping away laughing!
>>>> You just don't get it, do you dimbo?
>>> So let me get this straight : you talking nonsense, telling lies and >>> generally being a moron is you leading me up the garden path.
>>> OK.
>>> If that's what lights your fire. I rarely killfile : but clearly you >>> are totally and utterly useless. I can tell from your "I was joking >>> and you fell for it" defence. You were being dense and had not >>> properly read the thread. Lucky for your ego I use adaptive scoring >>> ...
>> You rarely killfile? Please killfile me dick head!
> Don't count on it.. He said he'd binned Snit, but it turns out he lied > about it. (What a surprise).
> - -- > Linux. The Malicious Software Removal tool which wipes Windows from your > PC in seconds!
> "Linux as a desktop OS is pretty much doomed it would appear. Too little > too late. " > Hadron: Message-ID: <fnd3jj$or...@registered.motzarella.org>
I get bored with Hardon's predictable insults. 'Idiot', 'fanboi'(I do wish he would learn how to spell in proper English), 'moron', 'useless', etc. Clearly he needs a course in English literature, then he would be able to insult everyone without coming across as a semi literate plonker!
-- I'm always kind, polite and reasonable.... except when I'm not.
>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for >>>> out-of-the-box experience.
FWIW: Mandriva is my distribution of choice, and has been for many years. Before that, I used Red Hat/Fedora. Some of the things I like about Mandriva: - Very easy installation - Very easy extension of package sources to include non-free stuff - Huge software choice - Excellent hardware support - Decent update system(*) -- I can't even remember when an update broke something
I haven't checked out recently how other distributions perform in the areas I mentioned, but in the past, Mandriva surpassed Fedora on several points, most particularly ease of installation and package management.
*: There's one thing I don't like at all about the update system, and that's the way version upgrades are offered/handled since the introduction of 2009.0, one year ago -- it suffered from similar problems we now see with Ubuntu. I fixed this for my users by disabling the upgrade notification on their system, but I think it can do with some significant redesigning.
>> Why are you such a tit?
>> Please be specific.
> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should > drop their current one and go with that one.
Nobody suggests that people should drop their current distro and start using Mandriva 2010, any more than people are expected to dump XP and move to Vista7. The report just concludes that it's an excellent Linux distribution, which deserves the praise and attention it gets -- something I can wholeheartedly agree with. When people are happy with their current operating system and/or distribution and/or distribution version, there's no reason to switch. Most of my users still use Mandriva 2008.1 because they like it, and because they're familiar with it. The newer KDE versions have quite a different look and feel, and have several different applications for key functions that takes some getting used to. Also, a lot of my users still have older hardware, which isn't very suitable for the higher demands of KDE 4.x (such as a bare minimum of 512MB RAM, compared to 256MB for KDE 3.5). I myself have 2009.1 running on an EeePC, and just did some test installs of 2010.0 on new machines, with positive results (as in: it simply works).
>>>> On Nov 8, 1:28 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com> wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>> Mandriva Linux 2010 – Very Impressive
>>>> If there's one Linux distribution people should get behind, it's >>>> Mandriva. They seem to understand what people want from an Operating >>>> System. A derivative of Mandriva, PCLinuxOS is the absolute best for >>>> out-of-the-box experience.
> He has made a claim about "yet another distro" and why people should > drop their current one and go with that one.
> Yet he didn't offer a SINGLE REASON why we should.
> It might be enough for a simpleton like yourself, but not for many. We > would like to hear his reasons for "advocating" his distro of the day > over many other more entrenched distributions.
It's different in that Mandriva is always begging for money and trying to foist those fluendo CODECS on unsuspecting users. For a charge of course.
Mandriva = the Beggars Linux distribution.
No wonder it's Roy Schestowitz's Linux of choice. They have a lot in common.
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