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Re: "Labelled" is Correct Because It's The English Spelling

k...@nyu.edu (Kalman Rubinson) — Sat, 07 Jul 2008 00:11:57 UT

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:38:28 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
Of course. It was an attempt at a humorous analogy.
True. That is current American usage but, apparently, not British
usage.
Kal

Re: "Labelled" is Correct Because It's The English Spelling

grizzledgee...@comcast.net (William Sommerwerck) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 23:38:28 UT

I hate this. If one is referring to The United States as a country, then
"is" is correct, "are" is wrong. (The change, by the way, occurred after the
Civil War. The US was now "one" country.)
However, the "collective singular" is totally illogical. The singular is
"team", the plural "teams". So you say "The team is hoping to win", not "The

Re: future in software industry as a lisp programmer

d...@geddis.org (Don Geddis) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 21:39:02 UT

"amolaggar...@gmail.com" <amolaggar...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 4 Jul 2008 :
Wait! Let me guess. Um...Orbitz (aka ITA)?
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Re: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure

w...@stablecross.com (Bob Felts) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 21:11:31 UT

Maybe the difference is that Fortran (et. al.) programmers are more
interested in the result, while Lisp programmers are more interested in
the language. YMMV.

Re: Lisp rocks! [was (erroneously): Lisp sucks!]

kentil...@gmail.com (Kenny) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 21:10:31 UT

Bah. I am busy finishing a Lisp application so I can hire all you
people, I have no time for public relations. Anyone still worried about
Lisp's popularity can join Ron's Association to Rename (We Don't Want to
Remind You).
hthk

Re: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure

alex.mizr...@gmail.com (Alex Mizrahi) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 20:54:35 UT

perhaps "average" programmers also pick what fits them best.
best example is PHP -- it was created by a hobbist guy
for his personal home page, and other amateur web designers
picked that langauge; despite it was made extremely unprofessionaly,
it fitted them very well, being very simple, but including

Re: future in software industry as a lisp programmer

christopher.jay.jo...@gmail.com — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 20:45:10 UT

Do whatever it takes to get a paycheck. Use Lisp (and any other tool)
to enhance your value, regardless of your actual job description. I
have worked in mainframe COBOL for 23 years. I used to beat my head
against the brick wall of my colleagues' indifference to techniques
beyond what they learned in structured programming class 20+ years

Re: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure

soh...@taggedtype.net (Sohail Somani) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 20:37:36 UT

To me, what makes a language harder to learn is how many restrictions it
has. Common Lisp doesn't seem to have many restrictions that get in my
way so it has been very damn easy.
I have recently gotten familiar with the mini-language in format. I used
to think C++ iostreams were feeble compared to the all-awesome printf.

Re: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure

dont-email...@nomail.org (Frank frgo a.k.a DG1SBG) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 20:14:34 UT

Oh come on. This is so obvious but it seems it has to be said so that
everyone can chew on it:
Any programmer's value is determined by experience. Why? Because she
has made so many errors and learned to debug and thereby learnt to
recognize erros and so learnt to avoid errors and so got more
productive and so ...

Re: enlightenment in computer programming (Ex: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure)

soh...@taggedtype.net (Sohail Somani) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 20:12:34 UT

I presume at some point people in this NG will actually write some code.

enlightenment in computer programming (Ex: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure)

vnikolov+use...@pobox.com (Vassil Nikolov) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 19:51:36 UT

Furthermore, good, modern enlightenment in this subject area in
general can be found in this book:
Peter Van Roy and Seif Haridi
_Concepts, Techniques, and Models of Computer Programming_
The MIT Press
Cambridge, Massachusetts
London, England
2004
ISBN 0-262-22069-5
xxx+900 pages

Lisp rocks! [was (erroneously): Lisp sucks!]

pit...@nhplace.com (Kent M Pitman) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 19:31:41 UT

Additional reminder: A lot of people see only the subject line and
never read into the thread. It helps when you adjust that, too.

Re: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure

alessiosta...@gmail.com (Alessio Stalla) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 18:57:17 UT

Knowing classical music does not magically turn you into a better
musician; still, I think most great musicians know at least some
classical music.
This is a silly example, but what I want to say is that of course Lisp
does not make you a better programmer: you can be a bad programmer in
any language you want. IMHO the process is the opposite: good

Re: CollabRx seeks brilliant engineers for an excellent e-science adventure

fset....@gmail.com (Scott Burson) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 18:32:39 UT

Alex has replied to you very well, but I just want to add one thing.
I do believe that learning a language with good support for the
functional style will make one a better programmer. It doesn't have
to be Lisp (or Scheme); there are many good semi-functional(*)
languages around these days -- such as the ML family and Scala -- and

Re: future in software industry as a lisp programmer

vselo...@gmail.com (Vsevolod) — Fri, 07 Jul 2008 17:16:21 UT

On Jul 4, 3:41 pm, "amolaggar...@gmail.com" <amolaggar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
It's funny, that people talk about it all the time. But this time can
you please give a couple of examples, where there wasn't a good Lisp
library for your tasks?
Vsevolod