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  <title type="text">comp.databases.pick Google Group</title>
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  Pick-like, post-relational, database systems.
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  <updated>2009-12-07T08:23:51Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ian McGowan</name>
  <email>ian.mcgo...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-07T08:23:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/d9ab07eb5950385b?show_docid=d9ab07eb5950385b</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  On Dec 6, 11:17 pm, Tony Gravagno &lt;br&gt; [snips] &lt;br&gt; So, two votes for mediawiki? :-) &lt;br&gt; One other thing worth considering is a better format for code &lt;br&gt; sharing. The wiki format is kind of awkward. Something like google &lt;br&gt; code, sourceforge, or some other code snippet management tools &lt;br&gt; perhaps? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/judaw/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; for example...
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tony Gravagno</name>
  <email>address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-07T07:17:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/0fd0ad7156678d39?show_docid=0fd0ad7156678d39</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/0fd0ad7156678d39?show_docid=0fd0ad7156678d39"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  Rex wrote: &lt;br&gt; Rex, all points valid but at the core the software is constrained. &lt;br&gt; There is only so much that can be done to simulate the look of other &lt;br&gt; sites, nothing that can be done to reproduce the functionality found &lt;br&gt; elsewhere. &lt;br&gt; I see Ian has updated the PickWiki homepage with a reference to this &lt;br&gt; discussion, as well as a NewWikiIdeas page with a link to MediaWiki.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ian McGowan</name>
  <email>ian.mcgo...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-07T07:09:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/48d1e8da3ac2124a?show_docid=48d1e8da3ac2124a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/48d1e8da3ac2124a?show_docid=48d1e8da3ac2124a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  [snip] &lt;br&gt; [snip useful suggestions, about improving the formatting] &lt;br&gt; An interesting discussion. I have to say thanks to Rex and Tony for &lt;br&gt; their efforts at sharing their expertise in posts on PickWiki and &lt;br&gt; speaking up for it here. &lt;br&gt; Visual appeal is obviously not priority #1 on the site. It&#39;s not &lt;br&gt; important to me, but I can see how a more modern UI would help make
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rex Gozar</name>
  <email>rgo...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-06T22:24:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/0d41a188f0075c58?show_docid=0d41a188f0075c58</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/0d41a188f0075c58?show_docid=0d41a188f0075c58"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  Wow. I was wondering when someone -- anyone -- would comment on &lt;br&gt; PickWiki itself. &lt;br&gt; A few years ago, I was looking for a Pick programming resource where I &lt;br&gt; could post my own articles. Nothing fancy, just some personal notes &lt;br&gt; that might be of interest to others in the community. &lt;br&gt; I found the PickSource website. A good looking site, looked like it
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kevin Powick</name>
  <email>kpow...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-06T17:05:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/5cc06481d4fe9227?show_docid=5cc06481d4fe9227</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/5cc06481d4fe9227?show_docid=5cc06481d4fe9227"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  On Dec 5, 9:40 pm, Tony Gravagno &lt;br&gt; There does not appear to be a choice. &lt;br&gt; If appearance allows for better navigation, searching, and &lt;br&gt; understanding, then yes. &lt;br&gt; No. You are confusing form over function. PickWiki has little of &lt;br&gt; either. &lt;br&gt; Says the .Net developer. :-) ... And while it is a different topic,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Homer L. Hazel</name>
  <email>homerl...@coxspam.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-06T16:50:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/55c5a1e9cc35cf94?show_docid=55c5a1e9cc35cf94</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/55c5a1e9cc35cf94?show_docid=55c5a1e9cc35cf94"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  &amp;lt;snip&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; There is one problem with letting someone &amp;quot;OWN&amp;quot; a Google group. &lt;br&gt; The &amp;quot;OWNER&amp;quot; of the open-source QM development group on &lt;br&gt; GOOGLE decided they did not like what someone was posting, &lt;br&gt; (it was a fairly innocuous banter exchange as I remember), so the &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;OWNER&amp;quot; of the Google group dis enrolled the offending members.
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  <author>
  <name>dawn</name>
  <email>dawnwolth...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-06T03:32:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/b2d7270bc780b2cd?show_docid=b2d7270bc780b2cd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/b2d7270bc780b2cd?show_docid=b2d7270bc780b2cd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  On Dec 5, 8:40 pm, Tony Gravagno &lt;br&gt; Ah, but part of the charm of a news group is that &amp;quot;no one&amp;quot; seems to &lt;br&gt; own it. With a google group, someone would have to set it up and &amp;quot;own&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; it, but that could be widely distributed among a group too. If someone &lt;br&gt; here had the s/w on their machine or maintained the software, as is
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tony Gravagno</name>
  <email>address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-06T02:40:23Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/5914fa3f782c014d?show_docid=5914fa3f782c014d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  You&#39;re absolutely right. I was thinking about older wiki&#39;s based on &lt;br&gt; the same design and completely neglected to think about more current &lt;br&gt; offerings. &lt;br&gt; So we&#39;re agreed that better=current software would be a major &lt;br&gt; improvement, but at the moment we are limited to what&#39;s there. &lt;br&gt; Given the limitations, is it more reasonable to wait for better
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tony Gravagno</name>
  <email>address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-06T02:40:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/047205a72f60ed38?show_docid=047205a72f60ed38</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/047205a72f60ed38?show_docid=047205a72f60ed38"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  dawn wrote: &lt;br&gt; My single vote counts as much as anyone else&#39;s here, but I personally &lt;br&gt; wouldn&#39;t want to put this into Google&#39;s hands. Google has done a &lt;br&gt; crappy job of providing a forum interface, email services, and others. &lt;br&gt; Their forum search has been broken for a year, and while they made a &lt;br&gt; major announcement about fixing it a couple months ago, I haven&#39;t
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tony Gravagno</name>
  <email>address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-06T02:40:23Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/d0b5416b18d257e9?show_docid=d0b5416b18d257e9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  See an example at the bottom of the Community page: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Community&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; There ya go, there&#39;s a new standard that I just made up. That page &lt;br&gt; will now show up whenever people are looking for a job, contractors, &lt;br&gt; etc. The idea of the specific wording is that people should be able
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  <author>
  <name>dawn</name>
  <email>dawnwolth...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-05T23:44:56Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/e45a214c3f8b95fe?show_docid=e45a214c3f8b95fe"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  On Dec 4, 2:16 pm, Tony Gravagno &lt;br&gt; Why not just put it on google groups and get the wiki and discussion &lt;br&gt; list, all searchable, etc, with wysiwyg editing, etc? Way back when &lt;br&gt; Mike started the MultiVallue google group IIRC. It didn&#39;t take off, &lt;br&gt; but we could work with it. I think I&#39;m a moderator. I&#39;m not sure if
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>wjhonson</name>
  <email>wjhon...@aol.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-05T09:21:00Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/1da916b1ceb6423e?show_docid=1da916b1ceb6423e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/1da916b1ceb6423e?show_docid=1da916b1ceb6423e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  On Dec 4, 12:16 pm, Tony Gravagno &lt;br&gt; As long as these &amp;quot;standards&amp;quot; don&#39;t actually affect the content portion &lt;br&gt; of the pages. &lt;br&gt; Will Johnson
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kevin Powick</name>
  <email>kpow...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-05T00:49:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/7faafaefaa2914d1?show_docid=7faafaefaa2914d1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/7faafaefaa2914d1?show_docid=7faafaefaa2914d1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  On Dec 4, 3:16 pm, Tony Gravagno &lt;br&gt; Yes, you could. Look around. Easy to use wysiwyg editors are now &lt;br&gt; popular in several wiki packages. &lt;br&gt; Yes. &lt;br&gt; TL;DR.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tony Gravagno</name>
  <email>address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-04T20:16:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/366001ffdcb8a317?show_docid=366001ffdcb8a317</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/366001ffdcb8a317?show_docid=366001ffdcb8a317"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  Well, markup is in the fabric of wiki, and we&#39;re not going to get &lt;br&gt; around that with a different wiki package. Again, I&#39;m in agreement &lt;br&gt; with both sides, and Professional &amp;lt;&amp;gt; Fancy, but a better balance is &lt;br&gt; desirable compared to what&#39;s there now. &lt;br&gt; Kevin, I&#39;m getting two things from you here: &lt;br&gt; 1) Searchability
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kevin Powick</name>
  <email>kpow...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-04T18:08:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/fef771a37e68920c?show_docid=fef771a37e68920c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.databases.pick/browse_frm/thread/80cdddd2757f48e3/fef771a37e68920c?show_docid=fef771a37e68920c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: To find and post info, code, or help-wanted ads, try PickWiki</title>
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  A &amp;quot;fancy&amp;quot; page is not the point, IMO. I&#39;m a big fan of white papers &lt;br&gt; because I want information. However, even a white paper can have good &lt;br&gt; or poor presentation quality. &lt;br&gt; PickWiki might be a good resource, but digging through it will only be &lt;br&gt; a last resort for me. And if using some type of wiki markup is
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