Ross Ferris wrote: >Curious about how Suzie may have reworked her presentation as well :-)
Welcome Reception is tonight, opening and sessions start tomorrow.
I found that out this morning after I told my clients I would be unavailable for the day - glad I checked the confirmation email right before I flew out of the house...
Maybe someone will twitter from the show - won't be me.
On Nov 5, 3:53 am, Ross Ferris <ro...@stamina.com.au> wrote:
> Curious about how Suzie may have reworked her presentation as well :-)
Anyone have ANY comments? Anything at All? Number of attendees? Knock you socks off info? (or ho-hum?)
IIRC there were about 150 people at the "last" conference I remember back in 1999, from South America, (South) Africa, Europe (mainly poms), Asia & Australia
Ross Ferris wrote: >On Nov 5, 3:53 am, Ross Ferris wrote: >> Curious about how Suzie may have reworked her presentation as well :-)
>Anyone have ANY comments? Anything at All? Number of attendees? Knock >you socks off info? (or ho-hum?)
>IIRC there were about 150 people at the "last" conference I remember >back in 1999, from South America, (South) Africa, Europe (mainly >poms), Asia & Australia
I'll have more on my blog after I catch up with business. In short:
- There were no major announcements except that TigerLogic is "back" both technically and in a business sense. - Susie Siegesmund explained she was presenting at a TL conference simply because the two companies have similar goals and challenges. - Susie and Rick Koe presented a positive, unified message for the community, something we haven't heard since SMA in the 1980's. - There were about 80 people representing almost every worldwide market. It was understandably small for various reasons, but I think a lot of people are going to be sorry they didn't get the good business messages right from the source. - There is talk of another conference next year, and if properly marketed I expect that will be a lot larger. - Technically, they covered what they said they would on the website.
This wasn't a "knock yer socks off" conference. It simply helped people to reaffirm their commitments, and it was a good kick off for more things to come. Most of us were quite skeptical for the first couple days, but the message from Susie and Rick sort of put that to rest. I think the message needs to be propagated loud and clear throughout the channel to whomever wants and needs to hear it.
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<address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid> wrote: > Ross Ferris wrote: > >On Nov 5, 3:53 am, Ross Ferris wrote: > >> Curious about how Suzie may have reworked her presentation as well :-)
> >Anyone have ANY comments? Anything at All? Number of attendees? Knock > >you socks off info? (or ho-hum?)
> >IIRC there were about 150 people at the "last" conference I remember > >back in 1999, from South America, (South) Africa, Europe (mainly > >poms), Asia & Australia
> I'll have more on my blog after I catch up with business. In short:
> - There were no major announcements except that TigerLogic is "back" > both technically and in a business sense. > - Susie Siegesmund explained she was presenting at a TL conference > simply because the two companies have similar goals and challenges. > - Susie and Rick Koe presented a positive, unified message for the > community, something we haven't heard since SMA in the 1980's. > - There were about 80 people representing almost every worldwide > market. It was understandably small for various reasons, but I think > a lot of people are going to be sorry they didn't get the good > business messages right from the source. > - There is talk of another conference next year, and if properly > marketed I expect that will be a lot larger. > - Technically, they covered what they said they would on the website.
> This wasn't a "knock yer socks off" conference. It simply helped > people to reaffirm their commitments, and it was a good kick off for > more things to come. Most of us were quite skeptical for the first > couple days, but the message from Susie and Rick sort of put that to > rest. I think the message needs to be propagated loud and clear > throughout the channel to whomever wants and needs to hear it.
> Tony Gravagno > Nebula Research and Development > TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com > Nebula R&D sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products > worldwide, and provides related development services > remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog > Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! > NEW: Follow TonyGravagno on Twitter
<address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid> wrote: > Ross Ferris wrote: > >On Nov 5, 3:53 am, Ross Ferris wrote: > >> Curious about how Suzie may have reworked her presentation as well :-)
> >Anyone have ANY comments? Anything at All? Number of attendees? Knock > >you socks off info? (or ho-hum?)
> >IIRC there were about 150 people at the "last" conference I remember > >back in 1999, from South America, (South) Africa, Europe (mainly > >poms), Asia & Australia
> I'll have more on my blog after I catch up with business. In short:
> - There were no major announcements except that TigerLogic is "back" > both technically and in a business sense. > - Susie Siegesmund explained she was presenting at a TL conference > simply because the two companies have similar goals and challenges. > - Susie and Rick Koe presented a positive, unified message for the > community, something we haven't heard since SMA in the 1980's. > - There were about 80 people representing almost every worldwide > market. It was understandably small for various reasons, but I think > a lot of people are going to be sorry they didn't get the good > business messages right from the source. > - There is talk of another conference next year, and if properly > marketed I expect that will be a lot larger. > - Technically, they covered what they said they would on the website.
> This wasn't a "knock yer socks off" conference. It simply helped > people to reaffirm their commitments, and it was a good kick off for > more things to come. Most of us were quite skeptical for the first > couple days, but the message from Susie and Rick sort of put that to > rest.
I can think of few reasons for Susie and Rick to provide some unified front unless there is some shared investor, can you? --dawn
> I think the message needs to be propagated loud and clear > throughout the channel to whomever wants and needs to hear it.
> Tony Gravagno > Nebula Research and Development > TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com > Nebula R&D sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products > worldwide, and provides related development services > remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog > Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! > NEW: Follow TonyGravagno on Twitter
dawn wrote: >> This wasn't a "knock yer socks off" conference. It simply helped >> people to reaffirm their commitments, and it was a good kick off for >> more things to come. Most of us were quite skeptical for the first >> couple days, but the message from Susie and Rick sort of put that to >> rest.
>I can think of few reasons for Susie and Rick to provide some unified >front unless there is some shared investor, can you? --dawn
Could you rephrase that?
Just to be clear, there was no talk of investments or shared business. There was no misunderstanding that these companies are still competitors, but it looks like they've come to understand what I've been saying for years, that lack of collaboration at each tier of this industry is getting us all nowhere.
I hope the leaders of the other DBMS providers will take the initiative to contact Susie and Rick, to see if they can continue to remain healthy competitors while still working toward the common goal of increasing the size and improving the state of the MV market as a whole.
<address.is.in.po...@removethis.com.invalid> wrote: > dawn wrote: > >> This wasn't a "knock yer socks off" conference. It simply helped > >> people to reaffirm their commitments, and it was a good kick off for > >> more things to come. Most of us were quite skeptical for the first > >> couple days, but the message from Susie and Rick sort of put that to > >> rest.
> >I can think of few reasons for Susie and Rick to provide some unified > >front unless there is some shared investor, can you? --dawn
> Could you rephrase that?
> Just to be clear, there was no talk of investments or shared business. > There was no misunderstanding that these companies are still > competitors, but it looks like they've come to understand what I've > been saying for years, that lack of collaboration at each tier of this > industry is getting us all nowhere.
> I hope the leaders of the other DBMS providers will take the > initiative to contact Susie and Rick, to see if they can continue to > remain healthy competitors while still working toward the common goal > of increasing the size and improving the state of the MV market as a > whole.
> T
You would be mistaken to read any more into Rocket Software's participation at TigerLogic's Pick User Conference than Tony has indicated. I would add that Tony's summary of the conference was largely in agreement with my own view. I did think there was some "socks-knocking" stuff with the TL XDMS but I'm still putting effort into understanding that product and where it might fit. And, as promised, we left with D3 v9.0 pre-beta installed as well as TL XDMS and OpenDB 3.2.
And Ross, Rick suggested (without any prompting from me) that next year's conference will be videoed and distributed for those unable to attend.
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