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daniel  
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 More options 5 Nov 2007, 02:19
From: daniel <mr.d.p...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:19:42 -0000
Local: Mon 5 Nov 2007 02:19
Subject: Hua Shan in Shaanxi

On 05/11/2007, wrote:
> Dear Dan,
>     Hi.  I happened to see on one of your posts to the
> qigong group that you spent some time at Hua Shan.
> Are you referring to the Hua Shan in Shaanxi province?
>  I was just wondered if you studied taiji there with
> the Daoists or if you lived in that area for awhile.
> I was interested in possibly doing such things.  Ok, I
> look forward to your reply!

> Thanks,

Hi

Hua Shan is relatively close to Xi'an, so when I was traveling around,
I took a detour and visited Hua Shan. I didn't intend to study
anything there, and there wasn't any kind of organized study on the
mountain itself. The mountain environment was very harsh, so you would
be very brave to go and live up there. At the base of the mountain, I
seem to remember that there was a daoist temple that emphasized taichi
practice amongst its disciples. Their practice wasn't open to the
public back then, but that was in 1999. Things may have changed now.
On the other hand, if their taichi practice strayed towards the qigong
side of things, the government probably wouldn't let that happen.

I hope that helps

Dan


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 More options 6 Nov 2007, 14:39
From: "Pawel Fulmyk" <pawelful...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:39:54 -0500
Local: Tues 6 Nov 2007 14:39
Subject: Re: [Chen Village Tai Chi:115] Hua Shan in Shaanxi
I've been to Hua shan twice in the last year, and saw no taijiquan
anywhere in the surrounding are - though I'm sure if one looked
closely one might find something there,
Cheers,
Pawel

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 More options 8 Nov 2007, 01:50
From: "steordsw...@googlemail.com" <steordsw...@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:50:40 -0800
Local: Thurs 8 Nov 2007 01:50
Subject: Re: Hua Shan in Shaanxi
 If I am intruding I am sorry, my name is Stephen and I am a student
to forums.
I have been looking for something that clicks with my interest for
about 6-7 months and you really caught my eye. The thing is I am from
Liverpool (uk) and started working with my mate at Liverpool John
Lennon Airport who kept talking about his work mate Joe who most
people did not was an old hand hand at Chinease Kung-Foo . Now I've
always been inspired by the way of their origins from my primary
school mate whose parents came from China. Even though Kung-foo was
popular by Bruce Lee I was fascinated by what I called Chinease
dancing better known as Tai-Chi. It wasn't until the Shoalin Monks
came to my town and I met a Howard new employee at the airport that it
all came together. It turns out that Joe and Howard were among 7
people to be trained free of charge by the only school to teach none
asian people in the early 70's UK.
When I met Howard at work and started talking we soon realised Joe and
Howard were old pupils of Jimmy Chen. He asked if Iwas interested in
Kung Foo which the answer was of course yes but I made clear it was
tai-chi that fascinated me. It soon came clear that he was still
training everyday in kung foo but was also a training in tai-chi, soon
after I was a member of the Jimmy Chen Tai-Chi school and having
personal lessons once a week. Now I am not blowing my own trumpet but
I took to it like a duck to water.Even Howard was constantly joking
about my training regime as I trained everyday for at least 4-5 hours,
(which in my eyes is nothing as it should be 8-12). I eventually took
my nephew and niece which lived 30 miles away and my mother with me
once a week.My nephew John who was 12,he wanted to train privately but
my niece he wanted too train Kung Foo as she was only 8. We went for
over 2 years but certain things happened and I stopped going to
Howards classes even though I do train, but as I am sure you know once
you stop you going too class you never progress which I seriously kick
myself about. There are classes in Liverpool but none are under Jimmy
Chen's or the Old Form. So as you can guess maybe I am a daydreamer
but I do have dreams even though I am 35 I do long for the opportunity
to fullfill my aspirations and seeing you do what I have always
dreamed off I salute you. So I shall get to the point is it too late
to go to China to teach English and also be trained in the ancient
arts of Tai-Chi of which I honestly dream of ???
       PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO ME A JUSTLY FAVOUR AND E-MAIL ME BACK
AS I AM IN LIMBO AND NEED AN HONEST REPLY.
                                        CHEERS.
                             steordsw...@googlemail.com

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daniel poon  
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 More options 8 Nov 2007, 09:41
From: "daniel poon" <d...@chenvillage.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:41:00 +0800
Subject: Re: [Chen Village Tai Chi:117] Re: Hua Shan in Shaanxi
On 06/11/2007, Pawel Fulmyk <pawelful...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been to Hua shan twice in the last year, and saw no taijiquan
> anywhere in the surrounding are - though I'm sure if one looked
> closely one might find something there,
> Cheers,
> Pawel

Hi Pawel

It was about 8 years ago that I went, so I can't remember too much
(one temple starts blending into the next ;-). Trawling through the
memory banks a bit more, I think the temple was in Hua Shan town,
which is/was a bus ride away from the base of the mountain. OTOH, it
might have been in Xian, before we even got to Hua Shan. If only we
had blogs in those days, I probably would have made a record of it! I
don't normally visit temples in China, except when I think there may
be some Tai Chi of interest, so It probably was in Hua Shan town.

Cheers

Dan


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 More options 8 Nov 2007, 14:24
From: "Pawel Fulmyk" <pawelful...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:24:36 -0500
Local: Thurs 8 Nov 2007 14:24
Subject: Re: [Chen Village Tai Chi:120] Re: Hua Shan in Shaanxi
Hey Daniel,
Xi an is actually quite famous for its Chen taijiquan; my teachers
lived an hour away (wenxian county, if I remember the name correctly).
 I spent 3 months in total in the Xia an area, and every time I went
to actual Xi an I managed to find people practising in the parks at
early hours of the morning.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were
temples in the cities neighbouring the mountain; both times I've been
to it I stayed a night at the small town you see when you get off the
train, and two nights at the town at the foot of the actual mountain
so I didn't have too much time to spend tracking taijiquan.  As an
aside to all - Hua Shan is quite difficult to climb, and very
dangerous.  Both times I was there there were fatalities which
happened - but if you're careful, and you get to see the sunrise, it's
a sight to remember forever.  For all to remember - There Is Only One
Road Up The Mountain!

Cheers, Pawel

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 More options 8 Nov 2007, 14:53
From: daniel <mr.d.p...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:53:50 -0000
Local: Thurs 8 Nov 2007 14:53
Subject: Re: Hua Shan in Shaanxi
Hi again

On 8 Nov, 22:24, "Pawel Fulmyk" <pawelful...@gmail.com> wrote:

So you probably know more about the place than me. I stayed up on the
mountain for a few nights in November, and boy it was cold. As a
westerner, if you do any mountain sports you will know that a mountain
is a very dangerous place - to be treated with respect. Hua Shan is a
'proper' mountain. The fatalities I believe are from naive people
wandering off the designated paths.

After Hua Shan, visiting Wudang Shan was a bit of an anti-climax, at
least from the mountain side of things.

Cheers

Dan


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 More options 8 Nov 2007, 15:16
From: daniel <mr.d.p...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:16:36 -0000
Local: Thurs 8 Nov 2007 15:16
Subject: Re: Hua Shan in Shaanxi
Hi Stephen

Ive tried to answer some of your questions...

On 8 Nov, 09:50, "steordsw...@googlemail.com"

<steordsw...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> So as you can guess maybe I am a daydreamer
> but I do have dreams even though I am 35 I do long for the opportunity
> to fullfill my aspirations and seeing you do what I have always
> dreamed off I salute you. So I shall get to the point is it too late
> to go to China to teach English and also be trained in the ancient
> arts of Tai-Chi of which I honestly dream of ???
>        PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO ME A JUSTLY FAVOUR AND E-MAIL ME BACK
> AS I AM IN LIMBO AND NEED AN HONEST REPLY.

On this list mailing, there are many people who have gone to train in
China. You don't have to go to China to realize you dreams. Many
people have attained a high level of Tai Chi by studying in the west,
provided you are lucky enough to live near a good teacher in the
west.

I would go to China if I didn't have a good teacher near by, since
despite the commercial nature of schools in China, studying in China
is still going to be cheaper than traveling in the west to study with
someone in the west with western prices.

Regardless of whether you have a good local teacher on your doorstep,
if you do go to China, even for a short period of time, Im sure you
won't regret it. Its a great life experience. You could put together a
2 week study itinary, including air fare, for the same cost as a
holiday in Spain (Im talking as a Brit here). So you don't need much
of a financial commitment to do it. Probably the bigger problem is to
convince your other half that they are going to have a good holiday
whilst watching you training all day :-).  So a lot of this depends on
your ties.

Hope this helps,

Dan


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