I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean Code- Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the Transfer ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits in. Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these frameworks and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them before).
Thanks heaps, Chris
On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean Code- > Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the Transfer > ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). > Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits in. > Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of > this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these frameworks > and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them > before).
> Thanks heaps, > Chris
> On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Fantastic, thanks Mathias. I'lll check them out.
> > On 16/10/2007, mpe <mathias.pe...@web.de> wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > as i promised yesterday, i uploaded my extension of > Illudium-PU36-Code- > > > Generator to generate Files for Fusebox5, transfer, Coldspring.
Hmm.... can anyone expand on that? If I remember from the one presentation I saw, Illudium handles creating the CRUD for you... and perhaps some other stuff that maybe I'm not recalling just now. So are you saying that if I use Illudium in conjunction with Transfer, then illudium will create all the Transfer CRUD stuff for me?
I don't know if I've said that quite right or not. Am I on the right track? Also, I downloaded the illudium archive that Mathias uploaded the other day, but I've got no idea what to do with it. I'll admit that I only looked at it for a few minutes though, so maybe I need to delve into it a bit deeper.
Sorry I've got so many questions. But I'd like to be an asset to the team, and I figure I need to start doing some serious work in understanding this stuff.
Thanks again! Chris
On 10/17/07, Dan Wilson <sipac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One benefit of using Illudium is in creating a template representative of > the style of coding.
> That way, the code can be consistently styled.
> That being said, Illudium will get you through a lot of the grunt work, > but won't design the business intelligence or the API.
> DW
> On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean Code- > > Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the Transfer > > ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). > > Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits in. > > Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of > > this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these frameworks > > and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them > > before).
> > Thanks heaps, > > Chris
> > On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > Fantastic, thanks Mathias. I'lll check them out.
> > > On 16/10/2007, mpe <mathias.pe...@web.de> wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > as i promised yesterday, i uploaded my extension of > > Illudium-PU36-Code- > > > > Generator to generate Files for Fusebox5, transfer, Coldspring.
Illudium will create a lot of the boilerplate logic, function stubs and xml configuration. It will produce a lot of the common elements needed for CRUD functionality. Illudium will not produce methods to calculate shipping, nor to recommend similar products. It will not produce a login functionality nor a shopping cart functionality.
It is up to the programmer to use the Illudium created content wisely. Just 'Pointing the generator at your DB and Running the Wizard' might produce a workable CRUD application, but it takes a skilled programmer to produce an intelligently designed and efficient application.
DW
On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm.... can anyone expand on that? If I remember from the one presentation > I saw, Illudium handles creating the CRUD for you... and perhaps some other > stuff that maybe I'm not recalling just now. So are you saying that if I use > Illudium in conjunction with Transfer, then illudium will create all the > Transfer CRUD stuff for me?
> I don't know if I've said that quite right or not. Am I on the right > track? Also, I downloaded the illudium archive that Mathias uploaded the > other day, but I've got no idea what to do with it. I'll admit that I only > looked at it for a few minutes though, so maybe I need to delve into it a > bit deeper.
> Sorry I've got so many questions. But I'd like to be an asset to the team, > and I figure I need to start doing some serious work in understanding this > stuff.
> Thanks again! > Chris
> On 10/17/07, Dan Wilson <sipac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One benefit of using Illudium is in creating a template representative > > of the style of coding.
> > That way, the code can be consistently styled.
> > That being said, Illudium will get you through a lot of the grunt work, > > but won't design the business intelligence or the API.
> > DW
> > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan < chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean > > > Code- > > > Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the Transfer > > > ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). > > > Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits in. > > > Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of > > > this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these frameworks > > > and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them > > > before).
> > > Thanks heaps, > > > Chris
> > > On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > Fantastic, thanks Mathias. I'lll check them out.
> > > > On 16/10/2007, mpe < mathias.pe...@web.de> wrote:
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > as i promised yesterday, i uploaded my extension of > > > Illudium-PU36-Code- > > > > > Generator to generate Files for Fusebox5, transfer, Coldspring.
> Illudium will not produce methods to calculate shipping, nor to recommend > similar products. It will not produce a login functionality nor a shopping > cart functionality.
yeah, I understood that part. I should have said so. ;o)
Cheers, Chris
On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > Hmm.... can anyone expand on that? If I remember from the one > > presentation I saw, Illudium handles creating the CRUD for you... and > > perhaps some other stuff that maybe I'm not recalling just now. So are you > > saying that if I use Illudium in conjunction with Transfer, then illudium > > will create all the Transfer CRUD stuff for me?
> > I don't know if I've said that quite right or not. Am I on the right > > track? Also, I downloaded the illudium archive that Mathias uploaded the > > other day, but I've got no idea what to do with it. I'll admit that I only > > looked at it for a few minutes though, so maybe I need to delve into it a > > bit deeper.
> > Sorry I've got so many questions. But I'd like to be an asset to the > > team, and I figure I need to start doing some serious work in understanding > > this stuff.
> > Thanks again! > > Chris
> > On 10/17/07, Dan Wilson <sipac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > One benefit of using Illudium is in creating a template representative > > > of the style of coding.
> > > That way, the code can be consistently styled.
> > > That being said, Illudium will get you through a lot of the grunt > > > work, but won't design the business intelligence or the API.
> > > DW
> > > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan < chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean > > > > Code- > > > > Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the > > > > Transfer > > > > ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). > > > > Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits > > > > in. > > > > Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of > > > > this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these > > > > frameworks > > > > and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them > > > > before).
> > > > Thanks heaps, > > > > Chris
> > > > On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > Fantastic, thanks Mathias. I'lll check them out.
> > > > > > as i promised yesterday, i uploaded my extension of > > > > Illudium-PU36-Code- > > > > > > Generator to generate Files for Fusebox5, transfer, Coldspring.
> > Illudium will not produce methods to calculate shipping, nor to recommend > similar products. It will not produce a login functionality nor a shopping > cart functionality.
> yeah, I understood that part. I should have said so. ;o)
> Cheers, > Chris
> > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan < chris.s.jor...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > Hmm.... can anyone expand on that? If I remember from the one > presentation I saw, Illudium handles creating the CRUD for you... and > perhaps some other stuff that maybe I'm not recalling just now. So are you > saying that if I use Illudium in conjunction with Transfer, then illudium > will create all the Transfer CRUD stuff for me?
> > > I don't know if I've said that quite right or not. Am I on the right > track? Also, I downloaded the illudium archive that Mathias uploaded the > other day, but I've got no idea what to do with it. I'll admit that I only > looked at it for a few minutes though, so maybe I need to delve into it a > bit deeper.
> > > Sorry I've got so many questions. But I'd like to be an asset to the > team, and I figure I need to start doing some serious work in understanding > this stuff.
> > > Thanks again! > > > Chris
> > > On 10/17/07, Dan Wilson <sipac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > One benefit of using Illudium is in creating a template representative > of the style of coding.
> > > > That way, the code can be consistently styled.
> > > > That being said, Illudium will get you through a lot of the grunt > work, but won't design the business intelligence or the API.
> > > > DW
> > > > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan < chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean > Code- > > > > > Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the > Transfer > > > > > ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). > > > > > Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits > in. > > > > > Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of > > > > > this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these > frameworks > > > > > and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them > > > > > before).
> > > > > Thanks heaps, > > > > > Chris
> > > > > On Oct 16, 5:52 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > Fantastic, thanks Mathias. I'lll check them out.
> > > > > > > as i promised yesterday, i uploaded my extension of > Illudium-PU36-Code- > > > > > > > Generator to generate Files for Fusebox5, transfer, Coldspring.
On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > the projects folder i.e.
> c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I develop on?
> Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available to the rest of the team for use?
> As said above Illudium will kick start things but it won't create your > site. Also whats said above it that it generate a coding standard.
Yeah. I get this part. Actually, I understood that from the beginning, but it no harm in mentioning it. I *did* say I was a complete noob! :o)
> On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Illudium will not produce methods to calculate shipping, nor to recommend > > similar products. It will not produce a login functionality nor a shopping > > cart functionality.
> > yeah, I understood that part. I should have said so. ;o)
> > Cheers, > > Chris
> > > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan < chris.s.jor...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > Hmm.... can anyone expand on that? If I remember from the one > > presentation I saw, Illudium handles creating the CRUD for you... and > > perhaps some other stuff that maybe I'm not recalling just now. So are you > > saying that if I use Illudium in conjunction with Transfer, then illudium > > will create all the Transfer CRUD stuff for me?
> > > > I don't know if I've said that quite right or not. Am I on the right > > track? Also, I downloaded the illudium archive that Mathias uploaded the > > other day, but I've got no idea what to do with it. I'll admit that I only > > looked at it for a few minutes though, so maybe I need to delve into it a > > bit deeper.
> > > > Sorry I've got so many questions. But I'd like to be an asset to the > > team, and I figure I need to start doing some serious work in understanding > > this stuff.
> > > > Thanks again! > > > > Chris
> > > > On 10/17/07, Dan Wilson <sipac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > One benefit of using Illudium is in creating a template representative > > of the style of coding.
> > > > > That way, the code can be consistently styled.
> > > > > That being said, Illudium will get you through a lot of the grunt > > work, but won't design the business intelligence or the API.
> > > > > DW
> > > > > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan < chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I've seen one presentation on the Illudium-PU36-Space.. um I mean > > Code- > > > > > > Generator. ;o) And I've just now given a cursory look at the > > Transfer > > > > > > ORM website (corrected the link on the wiki... it was busted). > > > > > > Transfer looks cool, but I'm unsure of how the Illudium stuff fits > > in. > > > > > > Can someone explain it to me. I really want to help in the coding of > > > > > > this project, so I'm trying to understand how all of these > > frameworks > > > > > > and time-saving-type tools work (since I've never used any of them > > > > > > before).
On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hate to seem stupid or slow about this, but...
> On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > > the projects folder i.e.
> > c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
> is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I > develop on?
|| when you downloaded Illudium you should have a folder called cfcGenerator, under which you should find the XSL and then teh projects folder.
> > Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
> reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I > saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch > of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have > to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available > to the rest of the team for use?
> On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I hate to seem stupid or slow about this, but...
> > On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > > > the projects folder i.e.
> > > c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
> > is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I > > develop on?
> || when you downloaded Illudium you should have a folder called > cfcGenerator, under which you should find the XSL and then teh > projects folder.
> > > Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
> > reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I > > saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch > > of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have > > to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available > > to the rest of the team for use?
I watched a couple of online presos about Transfer. Cool stuff! I then read a bit about Illudium and realized that once I downloaded the package that Mathias uploaded that I had all of that, and I just needed to run the darn thing. duh.
So, this being my first time to run Illudium first hand (not just watching someone else do it), I see that it needs a datasource to connect to, and some tables to select.
So my question now is: what's the first step?
As Mark Mandel (I realize who he is now, :o) was saying in the Feature List/Database Structure thread we should probably develop our object model first. Is that what we should be concentrating on? Do we have enough of a feature list and maybe just need to decide on what the first round of features will be, and then start on the object model?
I hate to ask so many questions, but I'm excited and want to get movin' on this stuff. I'm enjoying the process very much.
Cheers, Chris
On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/17/07, Nick Tong <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > answers inline
> > On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I hate to seem stupid or slow about this, but...
> > > On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > > > > the projects folder i.e.
> > > > c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
> > > is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I > > > develop on?
> > || when you downloaded Illudium you should have a folder called > > cfcGenerator, under which you should find the XSL and then teh > > projects folder.
> > > > Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
> > > reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I > > > saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch > > > of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have > > > to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available > > > to the rest of the team for use?
> I watched a couple of online presos about Transfer. Cool stuff! I then read > a bit about Illudium and realized that once I downloaded the package that > Mathias uploaded that I had all of that, and I just needed to run the darn > thing. duh.
> So, this being my first time to run Illudium first hand (not just watching > someone else do it), I see that it needs a datasource to connect to, and > some tables to select.
> So my question now is: what's the first step?
> As Mark Mandel (I realize who he is now, :o) was saying in the Feature > List/Database Structure thread we should probably develop our object model > first. Is that what we should be concentrating on? Do we have enough of a > feature list and maybe just need to decide on what the first round of > features will be, and then start on the object model?
> I hate to ask so many questions, but I'm excited and want to get movin' on > this stuff. I'm enjoying the process very much.
> Cheers, > Chris
> On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Cool. Thanks again. :o)
> > Chris
> > On 10/17/07, Nick Tong < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > answers inline
> > > On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I hate to seem stupid or slow about this, but...
> > > > On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > > > > > the projects folder i.e.
> > > > > c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
> > > > is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I > > > > develop on?
> > > || when you downloaded Illudium you should have a folder called > > > cfcGenerator, under which you should find the XSL and then teh > > > projects folder.
> > > > > Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
> > > > reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I > > > > saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch > > > > of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have > > > > to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available > > > > to the rest of the team for use?
i see there where a lot of questions about illidium :-) I hpe everything is all right now.
I have to agree with Nick! The first thing we have to do is think about the database-struckture. What will be neccessary for our project and what will be nice to have ;-)
My optimisation of illidium can also generate only selected Tables. So if we want to add a feature later it is also possible.
Again, my extensions of the generatr are very rough. Maybe there can be Bugs. I used it only at the beginning of my Diploma Thesis and build it for my requirements. The only thing i changed before i uploaded it here was to translate the texts form german to english ;-)
In a few days i will post a correction of the model-templates. In my (and my tutors) opinion the difference between Service and Gateway is not correct. Anyway, first we have to think about the Database structue.
Greetings from Munich/Germany
- I hope i can join this project as much as i can.
PS: Has anybody thougt about the supprted CFML-Engines! I heard that Transfer only runs on Adobe-CF. What about BlueDragon and Railo! At home i use Railo and it's notedly faster than Abode-CF. I got no experience with BlueDragon and Smith.
On Oct 18, 11:33 am, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris, i think your right, we need to figure out what's going to be > in the Alpha release and focus on that.
> That should be started on another thread i think.
> I'm glad you're up and running with things now :)
> On 18/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Okay.
> > I watched a couple of online presos about Transfer. Cool stuff! I then read > > a bit about Illudium and realized that once I downloaded the package that > > Mathias uploaded that I had all of that, and I just needed to run the darn > > thing. duh.
> > So, this being my first time to run Illudium first hand (not just watching > > someone else do it), I see that it needs a datasource to connect to, and > > some tables to select.
> > So my question now is: what's the first step?
> > As Mark Mandel (I realize who he is now, :o) was saying in the Feature > > List/Database Structure thread we should probably develop our object model > > first. Is that what we should be concentrating on? Do we have enough of a > > feature list and maybe just need to decide on what the first round of > > features will be, and then start on the object model?
> > I hate to ask so many questions, but I'm excited and want to get movin' on > > this stuff. I'm enjoying the process very much.
> > Cheers, > > Chris
> > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Cool. Thanks again. :o)
> > > Chris
> > > On 10/17/07, Nick Tong < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > answers inline
> > > > On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I hate to seem stupid or slow about this, but...
> > > > > On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > > > > > > the projects folder i.e.
> > > > > > c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
> > > > > is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I > > > > > develop on?
> > > > || when you downloaded Illudium you should have a folder called > > > > cfcGenerator, under which you should find the XSL and then teh > > > > projects folder.
> > > > > > Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
> > > > > reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I > > > > > saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch > > > > > of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have > > > > > to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available > > > > > to the rest of the team for use?
> i see there where a lot of questions about illidium :-) > I hpe everything is all right now.
> I have to agree with Nick! The first thing we have to do is think > about the database-struckture. > What will be neccessary for our project and what will be nice to > have ;-)
> My optimisation of illidium can also generate only selected Tables. So > if we want to add a feature later it is also possible.
> Again, my extensions of the generatr are very rough. Maybe there can > be Bugs. I used it only at the beginning of my Diploma Thesis and > build it for my requirements. The only thing i changed before i > uploaded it here was to translate the texts form german to english ;-)
> In a few days i will post a correction of the model-templates. In my > (and my tutors) opinion the difference between Service and Gateway is > not correct. > Anyway, first we have to think about the Database structue.
> Greetings from Munich/Germany
> - I hope i can join this project as much as i can.
> PS: Has anybody thougt about the supprted CFML-Engines! I heard that > Transfer only runs on Adobe-CF. What about BlueDragon and Railo! At > home i use Railo and it's notedly faster than Abode-CF. I got no > experience with BlueDragon and Smith.
> On Oct 18, 11:33 am, "Nick Tong" <nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Chris, i think your right, we need to figure out what's going to be > > in the Alpha release and focus on that.
> > That should be started on another thread i think.
> > I'm glad you're up and running with things now :)
> > On 18/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Okay.
> > > I watched a couple of online presos about Transfer. Cool stuff! I then read > > > a bit about Illudium and realized that once I downloaded the package that > > > Mathias uploaded that I had all of that, and I just needed to run the darn > > > thing. duh.
> > > So, this being my first time to run Illudium first hand (not just watching > > > someone else do it), I see that it needs a datasource to connect to, and > > > some tables to select.
> > > So my question now is: what's the first step?
> > > As Mark Mandel (I realize who he is now, :o) was saying in the Feature > > > List/Database Structure thread we should probably develop our object model > > > first. Is that what we should be concentrating on? Do we have enough of a > > > feature list and maybe just need to decide on what the first round of > > > features will be, and then start on the object model?
> > > I hate to ask so many questions, but I'm excited and want to get movin' on > > > this stuff. I'm enjoying the process very much.
> > > Cheers, > > > Chris
> > > On 10/17/07, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Cool. Thanks again. :o)
> > > > Chris
> > > > On 10/17/07, Nick Tong < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > answers inline
> > > > > On 17/10/2007, Chris Jordan <chris.s.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I hate to seem stupid or slow about this, but...
> > > > > > On Oct 17, 1:10 pm, "Nick Tong" < nickt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Chris, you can copy the Illudium copy that Mathias uploaded into > > > > > > > the projects folder i.e.
> > > > > > > c:\cfcgenerator\xsl\projects
> > > > > > is the projects folder just my local copy of the project that I > > > > > > develop on?
> > > > > || when you downloaded Illudium you should have a folder called > > > > > cfcGenerator, under which you should find the XSL and then teh > > > > > projects folder.
> > > > > > > Then when you reload Illudium you should see it in the drop down.
> > > > > > reload illudium? Hmm... I think I've got some more reading to do. I > > > > > > saw a short presentation on illudium and I saw that it created a bunch > > > > > > of cfcs and stubs, and such, but doesn't only one person really have > > > > > > to do that? And then make the stubs and generated functions available > > > > > > to the rest of the team for use?
>> I have to agree with Nick! The first thing we have to do is think >> about the database-struckture. >> What will be neccessary for our project and what will be nice to >> have ;-)
Just to clarify, I THINK Nick was talking about starting with the object model - not the database structure. They relate, but on a non-trivial project they don't correspond 1:1. I'd thoroughly suggest locking down the object model before thinking about the details of what and how to persist to the db.
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