> Does anyone know of any issues relating to the Hawkins Rd area/Beales > Rd area around the Arbury? By that I mean, erm, whatchya callem, > planned changes, proposed tower blocks/schools/lapdancing clubs/one > way systems sort of thing.
> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
That's what you pay a solicitor to do a search for. You can of course look at the local plan proposals map and any outstanding planning applications yourself, but you're more likely to miss stuff.
BTW:
> Hawkins Rd area/Beales > Rd area around the Arbury?
You mean Kings Hedges rather than Arbury, and Google Maps shows me a Beales Way but no Beales Road.
-- Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb Cambridge City Councillor
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:20:48 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote: > "Cherry Chapstick" <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote in message > news:lvfef59cqhb3gmagiu10ofsl2gs238se4t@4ax.com... >> Does anyone know of any issues relating to the Hawkins Rd area/Beales >> Rd area around the Arbury? By that I mean, erm, whatchya callem, >> planned changes, proposed tower blocks/schools/lapdancing clubs/one >> way systems sort of thing.
>> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
> That's what you pay a solicitor to do a search for. You can of course > look > at the local plan proposals map and any outstanding planning applications > yourself, but you're more likely to miss stuff.
> BTW:
>> Hawkins Rd area/Beales >> Rd area around the Arbury?
> You mean Kings Hedges rather than Arbury, and Google Maps shows me a > Beales > Way but no Beales Road.
If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the Arbury where is?
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:05:05 +0000, Cherry Chapstick wrote: > Does anyone know of any issues relating to the Hawkins Rd area/Beales > Rd area around the Arbury? By that I mean, erm, whatchya callem, > planned changes, proposed tower blocks/schools/lapdancing clubs/one > way systems sort of thing.
> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
I live off Hawkins - but FWIW - there are no lapdancing clubs and hi-rise flats proposed to the best of my knowledge. The only recent dev is the old Reese Thomas site (and if lap dancing takes place there I'd be surprised). If a one way system was installed, no-one would notice. The only proposed change (necessitating a letter through the door) I can think of is tarting up the frontage to Tesco Metro on Campkin Rd - close to the Jenny Wren. It still seems to be in the Option B or Option A stage.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote: > "Duncan Wood" <nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message > news:op.u23kw0gihaghkf@lucy...
>> If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the Arbury >> where >> is?
> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one side > of > Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park isn't > either.)
>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the Arbury >>> where >>> is?
>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one side >> of >> Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park isn't >> either.)
> So where is?
Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury Camp which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard Park which isn't even in Cambridge.
At the last boundary change there was an option of renaming the wards to something more meaningful. The only (not terribly serious) suggestion made for a new name for "Arbury" was "St Lukes" which I wasn't having.
-- Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb Cambridge City Councillor
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:10:25 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote: > "Duncan Wood" <nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message > news:op.u23l04q1haghkf@lucy... >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> >> wrote:
>>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the Arbury >>>> where >>>> is?
>>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one >>> side >>> of >>> Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park isn't >>> either.)
>> So where is?
> Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury Camp > which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard Park which > isn't even in Cambridge.
> At the last boundary change there was an option of renaming the wards to > something more meaningful. The only (not terribly serious) suggestion > made > for a new name for "Arbury" was "St Lukes" which I wasn't having.
Yes but does anybody think ward boundarys have anything todo with placenames?
> Yes but does anybody think ward boundarys have anything todo with > placenames?
Er ... in context ... that's not the point. Planning applications are keyed on ward, not on what "everybody knows" the place name "ought to be". If you go searching for planning issues in "Arbury" you won't find ones that relate to "Kings Hedges".
-- Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb Cambridge City Councillor
In article <7lp1f1F3epet...@mid.individual.net>, t...@brettward.co.uk (Tim
Ward) wrote: > At the last boundary change there was an option of renaming the > wards to something more meaningful. The only (not terribly serious) > suggestion made for a new name for "Arbury" was "St Lukes" which I > wasn't having.
You may not realise, Tim, but the 2007 Local Government (and other bits) Act allows councils to rename wards. The County Council has used the power in a couple of cases.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:17:40 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote: > "Duncan Wood" <nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message > news:op.u23mv7jahaghkf@lucy...
>> Yes but does anybody think ward boundarys have anything todo with >> placenames?
> Er ... in context ... that's not the point. Planning applications are > keyed > on ward, not on what "everybody knows" the place name "ought to be". If > you > go searching for planning issues in "Arbury" you won't find ones that > relate > to "Kings Hedges".
>"Duncan Wood" <nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message >news:op.u23l04q1haghkf@lucy... >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the Arbury >>>> where >>>> is?
>>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one side >>> of >>> Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park isn't >>> either.)
>> So where is?
>Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury Camp >which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard Park which >isn't even in Cambridge.
linda...@ntlworld.com (Linda Fox) wrote: > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:10:25 -0000, "Tim Ward" <t...@brettward.co.uk> > wrote:
> >"Duncan Wood" <nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:op.u23l04q1haghkf@lucy... > >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward > <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the > >>>> Arbury where is?
> >>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one > >>> side of Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park > >>> isn't either.)
> >> So where is?
> >Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury > >Camp which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard > >Park which isn't even in Cambridge.
In article <f7jff559hjhgrlsdebug51bpkpo4kve...@4ax.com>,
az...@invalid.really.really (Cherry Chapstick) wrote: > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:20:48 -0000, "Tim Ward" <t...@brettward.co.uk> > wrote:
> >> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
> >That's what you pay a solicitor to do a search for.
> I'd rather know of anything obvious before I got to the stage of > hiring a solicitor or even making an offer. Thanks for the > information on the ward names!
the other thing I'd recommend is going round there at different times of day on different days. Eg. payday has a marked effect where we are. Are there bunches of marauding hoodies hanging out of a Saturday afternoon, is there eg a chip shop or pub that has a reputation, go there at 11.30 pm to see what the place feels like. If there is a local pub, go in there and chat to people about 'thinking about moving into the area' after all you don't want o alienate people! As well as going to the Council offices and asking about planning in the area of course. Also try <http://www.upmystreet.com/> for crime figures etc. Compare and contrast with other streets that you know. HTH
Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote: >At the last boundary change there was an option of renaming the wards to >something more meaningful. The only (not terribly serious) suggestion made >for a new name for "Arbury" was "St Lukes" which I wasn't having.
Why not? It would make a lot more sense than Arbury. -- + Cris Galletly <galle...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> +
Tim Ward wrote: > "Cherry Chapstick" <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote in message > news:lvfef59cqhb3gmagiu10ofsl2gs238se4t@4ax.com... >> Does anyone know of any issues relating to the Hawkins Rd area/Beales >> Rd area around the Arbury? By that I mean, erm, whatchya callem, >> planned changes, proposed tower blocks/schools/lapdancing clubs/one >> way systems sort of thing.
>> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
> That's what you pay a solicitor to do a search for.
No, not really. Solicitors' searches will tell you about all nearby stuff and, if you're lucky, _some_ big-picture stuff further out, but they're no replacement for personal research, as CC is doing.
And a solicitor will very rarely advise you on whether to buy there on more general bases, such as problem schools nearby, social deprivation, crime hotspots, traffic problems, and so forth.
CC is absolutely right to poll local opinion. I'm surprised you'd suggest otherwise, Tim.
Jon -- SPAM BLOCK IN USE! To reply in email, replace 'deadspam' with 'green-lines'.
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:15:58 -0000, Jon Green <jo...@deadspam.com> wrote: > Tim Ward wrote: >> "Cherry Chapstick" <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote in message >> news:lvfef59cqhb3gmagiu10ofsl2gs238se4t@4ax.com... >>> Does anyone know of any issues relating to the Hawkins Rd area/Beales >>> Rd area around the Arbury? By that I mean, erm, whatchya callem, >>> planned changes, proposed tower blocks/schools/lapdancing clubs/one >>> way systems sort of thing.
>>> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
>> That's what you pay a solicitor to do a search for.
> No, not really. Solicitors' searches will tell you about all nearby > stuff and, if you're lucky, _some_ big-picture stuff further out, but > they're no replacement for personal research, as CC is doing.
> And a solicitor will very rarely advise you on whether to buy there on > more general bases, such as problem schools nearby, social deprivation, > crime hotspots, traffic problems, and so forth.
> CC is absolutely right to poll local opinion. I'm surprised you'd > suggest otherwise, Tim.
> Jon
Surely one does both, for that list of issues though a solicitors probably rather more use than a drink in the Jenny Wren.
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:10:25 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Duncan Wood" <nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:op.u23l04q1haghkf@lucy... >>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> >>> wrote:
>>>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way & the Arbury centre aren't in the Arbury >>>>> where >>>>> is?
>>>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one >>>> side >>>> of >>>> Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park isn't >>>> either.)
>>> So where is?
>> Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury Camp >> which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard Park which >> isn't even in Cambridge.
>> At the last boundary change there was an option of renaming the wards to >> something more meaningful. The only (not terribly serious) suggestion >> made >> for a new name for "Arbury" was "St Lukes" which I wasn't having.
> Yes but does anybody think ward boundarys have anything todo with > placenames?
I was walking round our area yesterday and suddenly spotted that all the street names seemed to be large country houses or castles.
rosenst...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: > In article<31nef5horpkq4cq6uupjffjfnqtm3s7...@4ax.com>, > linda...@ntlworld.com (Linda Fox) wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:10:25 -0000, "Tim Ward"<t...@brettward.co.uk> >> wrote:
>>> "Duncan Wood"<nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:op.u23l04q1haghkf@lucy... >>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward >> <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way& the Arbury centre aren't in the >>>>>> Arbury where is?
>>>>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on one >>>>> side of Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town Park >>>>> isn't either.)
>>>> So where is?
>>> Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury >>> Camp which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard >>> Park which isn't even in Cambridge.
>> What about Arbury Primary School?
> That's in Arbury Ward.
Actually it isn't. The caretakers house is in Arbury, but the school is in West Chesterton. HTH HAND etc.
> Actually it isn't. The caretakers house is in Arbury, but the school is > in West Chesterton. HTH HAND etc.
Councillors typically do care which ward the caretaker's house is in, because the caretaker has a vote, and neither know nor care which ward the classrooms are in, because this has no practical import (if the school is on a boundary councillors from both wards are going to be involved regardless of exactly where the boundary line actually runs through the site).
-- Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb Cambridge City Councillor
>Tim Ward wrote: >> "Cherry Chapstick" <az...@invalid.really.really> wrote in message >> news:lvfef59cqhb3gmagiu10ofsl2gs238se4t@4ax.com... >>> Does anyone know of any issues relating to the Hawkins Rd area/Beales >>> Rd area around the Arbury? By that I mean, erm, whatchya callem, >>> planned changes, proposed tower blocks/schools/lapdancing clubs/one >>> way systems sort of thing.
>>> In general, are there reasons for people to avoid buying there?
>> That's what you pay a solicitor to do a search for.
>No, not really. Solicitors' searches will tell you about all nearby >stuff and, if you're lucky, _some_ big-picture stuff further out, but >they're no replacement for personal research, as CC is doing.
>And a solicitor will very rarely advise you on whether to buy there on >more general bases, such as problem schools nearby, social deprivation, >crime hotspots, >traffic problems, and so forth.
All of Cambridge then;(.....
>CC is absolutely right to poll local opinion. I'm surprised you'd >suggest otherwise, Tim.
tony sayer wrote: > In article <kc6dnc-UIu9zZGrXnZ2dnUVZ8r2dn...@brightview.co.uk>, Jon > Green <jo...@deadspam.com> scribeth thus >> And a solicitor will very rarely advise you on whether to buy there on >> more general bases, such as problem schools nearby, social deprivation, >> crime hotspots,
[snip good old "where the hell is Arbury?" thread]
I have a suggestion. Any references to "the Arbury" are references to a place with fuzzy boundaries that exists in people's heads. Follow-ups pointing out that Xxxx Road is not in Arbury should only take place if somebody has made a reference to "Arbury", not "the Arbury".
In article <Hmw*A2...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
galle...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Cris Galletly) wrote: > In article <7lp1f1F3epet...@mid.individual.net>, > Tim Ward <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote: > >At the last boundary change there was an option of renaming the wards > >to something more meaningful. The only (not terribly serious) > >suggestion made for a new name for "Arbury" was "St Lukes" which I > >wasn't having.
> Why not? It would make a lot more sense than Arbury.
> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:10:25 -0000, "Tim Ward" > >> <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> "Duncan Wood"<nntpn...@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message > >>> news:op.u23l04q1haghkf@lucy... > >>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:40:23 -0000, Tim Ward > >>>> <t...@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>> If hawkins road, Beales Way& the Arbury centre aren't in the > >>>>>> Arbury where is?
> >>>>> Nothing containing the word "Arbury" apart from a few houses on > >>>>> one side of Arbury Road - it'd be too easy otherwise. (Arbury Town > >>>>> Park isn't either.)
> >>>> So where is?
> >>> Everything else called Arbury is in Kings Hedges, except for Arbury > >>> Camp which got renamed to Arbury Park which got renamed to Orchard > >>> Park which isn't even in Cambridge.
> >> What about Arbury Primary School?
> > That's in Arbury Ward.
> Actually it isn't. The caretakers house is in Arbury, but the > school is in West Chesterton. HTH HAND etc.
Oops! How could I have forgotten that? I was one of those responsible for changing the boundary round the caretaker's house in 1975 so he could vote at the polling station he was responsible for! Although not within the ward, the school was well situated to serve as a polling station.
Arbury School was one of the schools that stopped being polling stations some years ago to reduce polling day disruption to children and their parents.
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:08:39 +0000, Cherry Chapstick wrote: > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:56:26 +0000, Chris Lamb > <chris_use...@lykaon.noeggsausagebeansandspam.org.uk> wrote:
>>email me if you have a specific house in mind.
> Hello
> I did email you, with and without what appears to be a spamtrap - this > is just to let you know in case it didn't get through.
I replied (Monday at 22:22) - hopefully it hasn't fallen into a black hole. I'll re-send it now.
|
