Caia Park Google Group

SECTION H/ TAI WRECSAM

david.barl...@virgin.net (???) — Thu, 04 Apr 2008 09:49:51 UT

With regards to Section H,Tai Wrecsam,RSL,Stock Transfer,are these
plans still the same or are there to be changes to this, i would show
you a copy but im afraid i can not upload the file on this site,if you
would like to see a copy ,please vist [link]
We have uploaded various documents withregards to choices being

flyer

david.barl...@virgin.net (???) — Thu, 04 Apr 2008 07:44:15 UT

The flyer will give all tenants and the whole community a lot of
information regarding the choices avaliable,council housing,stock
transfer.
It seems there is no information at all regarding options on this
site,thought the purpose of this site was to inform,how can one inform
the community if we can not up load relevant information.

a

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Wed, 04 Apr 2008 06:46:43 UT

[link]

NEW DISSCUSION GROUP,

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Tue, 04 Apr 2008 18:42:28 UT

With have NO CONNECTIONS WITH COMMUNITYS FIRST,
[link]

Complaint

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Tue, 04 Apr 2008 07:28:15 UT

I have to say that I am extremely disappointed in the current attitude
of open communities. I feel that the current removal of alternitive
sights is contrary to freedom of information and what I considered to
be the ethos of discussion. I formally request that all links are
reinstated, I am aware that you were invited to join the other NEW

VOTE ON MONDAY

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Sun, 03 Mar 2008 11:39:46 UT

Ring your MP UP 02072193000 and defend council housing and bullying
tactics of certain bodies within our society,in favour of stock
transfer. voteagainst lobby your mp, vote is on monday, see
files,bottom of page dcc, -defend council housing],if your MP is not
in london ask why and who is representing wrexham against council

30 & 50 year forcast housing assocations

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Sun, 03 Mar 2008 09:53:49 UT

been looking at reports [various] with recards to the financel 30 & 50
year plan,[as set out by wag],for housing assocations to secure more
funding and indeed to secure future takeover of the council stock,when
i read these reports, im seeing more captalism methods being used to
look good for the auditors and various bodies, with a partial economic

Response

raymond.co...@opencommunities.org (Administrator) — Sat, 03 Mar 2008 08:46:32 UT

In direct response to some recent comments on the discussion forum.

The Project
I could not agree more that this is the ideal opportunity for the
wider community to air its views on issues related to Caia Park.

Updates are there to keep the community informed of progress. That
progress is slow at the moment although the consultation exercise is

UK Government is braking the law

socialistm...@googlemail.com (mozz) — Fri, 03 Mar 2008 20:53:57 UT

Is it not the case that the main reason Wrexham can not reach the WHQS
is because a third of rent receipts have to be paid back to
Westminster in the so called “housing subsidy” which is an
approximation of the amount the government has paid out in housing
benefit.
Would it not be a better use of the tenants empowerment grant to set

Assembley cash boost

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 03 Mar 2008 18:19:19 UT

i have remarked for a long time that the housing stock shall indeed
fall into housing assocations hands,i belive the WAG standards which
the council say they can not meet,due to lack of money, i am wondering
if our own welsh assembley government and central government have set
these standards,so our own council will fail, to achive the above

Defend council housing

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 03 Mar 2008 13:38:45 UT

Thought i would upload a file for every one to see. a lot of folk have
signed against this,perhaps they someone should look at who has signed
it,and i mean local people who are in a postion to do something,this
is what a petition looks like, look at files

some more info

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:47:30 UT

[link]

WAG/HOUSING STANDARDS

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:37:34 UT

I see this has a very good idea, and friendly,
[link]
ban this one next,theres a saying where theres crap theres
money,Called water board or corparation pop

prize/odds on i win

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:24:44 UT

well i do stand a odds on to win, of wining the prize,what is it a pot
of paint or rent free for a year,becuase i have arrears.

update

raymond.co...@opencommunities.org (Administrator) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:21:41 UT

Good to see the number of posts increasing - shame that we are not
getting more input from a wider audience. The important thing is that
the opportunity is there for people to offer their views.

The door knocking is continuing but progress is slow due to the sheer
number of properties on the estate. Once the results are in we will

survey

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Sat, 03 Mar 2008 20:57:08 UT

Well it was nice to find something out for a change. Two people I know
have had there survey through the door. One wasn't to sure what it was
about though and thought it was for some firm in Liverpool. Nice to
see the website advertised at last and perhaps this will generate more
of a debate.

?

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Fri, 03 Mar 2008 09:27:01 UT

[link] Found this in the advertisements
on the side, anyone got an opinion? Consultations or
engagement??????????????????

is there anybody out there

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Wed, 03 Mar 2008 22:23:06 UT

The evolution of stock transfer housing associations

[link]

and this is wales

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Fri, 02 Feb 2008 19:24:27 UT

cofio cayo! FeGodwn ni eto,

tories

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Tue, 02 Feb 2008 00:43:49 UT

[link]

some interesting reading.

rent rises.

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Mon, 02 Feb 2008 23:02:13 UT

[link]

wally hope

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Mon, 02 Feb 2008 20:55:44 UT

1947-1975
[link]

wally hope 1947-1975

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Mon, 02 Feb 2008 20:53:10 UT

Wally hope,
wikipedia.org/wiki/wally_Hope
more faith in him,

Back hand methods & information

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Sun, 01 Jan 2008 16:56:10 UT

with regards to all this consultation going on some 3 years a go, we
are no far forward, indeed it appears we aew doing the work of
[ perhaps] those that are on the pay roll.
It appears no one as got a glue what to do or are to lazy in there
work to care less what happens to the housing [they dont live in them]

Council Involvement

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Sat, 01 Jan 2008 20:51:15 UT

[link]

Reading this I get the impression that all council tennants are meant
to be consulted in response to future partial stock transfers.

WAG

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 01 Jan 2008 14:54:16 UT

And can i point out,even though the housing is some what of in a
crisis,cental government and the welsh quality housing standards
2012,it is indeed there fault that council housing is in financial
difficulity,it appears bussiness man Brown wants to sell everthing of,
dispite opposition.with capatilisim well and trully working in the

Update

raymond.co...@opencommunities.org (Administrator) — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:25:41 UT

The door knocking for the survey questionnaire is due to start at the
beginning of Feb and take a couple of months. Meanwhile there are
also a couple of study visits being arranged to areas similar to
Castlevale, the estate in Birmingham visited by tenants and which
effectively kicked off this consultation exercise.

PEACEFUL DOES IT CHAPS

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Sat, 01 Jan 2008 23:32:42 UT

[link]
even though no one is saying anything, i do hope that by now some folk
are realising some one some where is messed up good style on this
consultation.

practical solutions

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 01 Jan 2008 16:29:11 UT

[link]

liverpool

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Wed, 01 Jan 2008 20:15:57 UT

[link]
This should of been done a long time ago

Joseph Rowntree Foundation

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Wed, 01 Jan 2008 17:01:46 UT

[link]

I Have lost my way

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:33:24 UT

with regards to this site, i must be a fool to be thinging that this
was for every ones views to see what happens next regarding housing, i
do belive the views of the tenants are to be looked at,will this be
certain people or the whole of caia park, this site is for expressing
our views.
And please feel free to sign our i ipetition

COMMUNTIES

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Sun, 01 Jan 2008 20:08:24 UT

[link]

petitions/ stock transfer

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Sat, 01 Jan 2008 15:21:31 UT

please take the time and sign our petition.
[link]

update

raymond.co...@opencommunities.org (Administrator) — Thu, 01 Jan 2008 21:42:53 UT

Happy New Year to all

Good to see the number of posts increasing - athough it would be great
to see the number of posters increasing!! This is a public forum so
please encourage family, friends and neighbours to particpate.

The estate survey wll be starting around the end of the month.

Just to remind you all that this is a consultation exercise funded by

22 jauary

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 01 Jan 2008 19:14:01 UT

on the 22 january 07 parliament square london demo regarding the
fourth option which the government is not in favour of.
Allso if gordon brown and mps can hold news talks they and the news
grew are breaking the 1986 act of demo in parliament square,and should
be nicked for doing so.
Gordon has been doing consultations on the gathering[demo] bill.

Poor housing

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 01 Jan 2008 18:25:54 UT

If we are to live in an oppresive society,poor housing, poor schooling
etc. The un convention on thr rights of the child [1989] article
31 .since this site not doing much lets all go and join the circus
[link] and do something usefull.or is it central
government being bullys to our councils? i just dont no think i go and

Gordon Brown & co

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 01 Jan 2008 17:47:09 UT

If we are to have laws then lets abide by them that includes
communties first, and the stock transfer.
Help us to GET gordon brown in the dock and others for allowing the
stock transfer to proceed.
[link]

ALMOs

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Wed, 01 Jan 2008 21:50:17 UT

ALMOs, are a waste of money go to [link]
check out whats been said of the ALMOs.
We did to act quick and derail any plans for this and RSL.

ALMO

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Wed, 01 Jan 2008 21:42:02 UT

[link]

THE FOURTH OPTION

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Wed, 01 Jan 2008 21:14:52 UT

We do have a 4 option but it so far seems to be having problems of its
own.
[link]

high spending/

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:36:12 UT

I belive we have to ask ourselfs why have we these options of the
housing stock.
Are the council running the estates down so much for this to happen.
What has happened to the collection of rents.
Are the council in favour of the housing stock going to RSL.
If the housing stock stays with the council,will they ask government

all lies

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:01:46 UT

The saying is you can lead a donkey to water but you cant make it
drink, well it would help if there was water in the river, i can bet
the transfer will go to H/A.
communties first and this site is seeing to be doing, [WELL WE DID
HAVE CONSULTATIONS].
I have spoken to tenants in spring lodge caia etc it does seem to me

questions.

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Sat, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:32 UT

[link]

stock transfer

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Thu, 12 Dec 2007 10:56:36 UT

[link]
With regards to stock transfer, unison papers states it will be a bad
move,and decline in housing standards, lots of documents, i getting
sick and tired of this, and propose a differant tactic,the stock
should stay with the council,if they say they got no money then get
the auditers in to see what has happened to tax payers money, how much

suspension of right to buy

geordieno...@yahoo.co.uk (geordie) — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:51:32 UT

[link]

I know I seem to be talking to myself but just in case I wsondered
what was thought about the idea of suspending the right to buy. Will
this have any effect on any future proposed plans or the Caia area ,

Thoughts for struggle

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Tue, 12 Dec 2007 21:03:11 UT

[link]

Bourgeois Democracy

david.barl...@virgin.net (Davey) — Mon, 12 Dec 2007 21:14:43 UT

Does seem to me not a lot of folk no this, sounds about right,it seems
3 years is nearly up [who going to win].the electorate is asked to but
a cross on a piece of paper to determine who will control them every 3
years, the same can be said for the stock transfer etc, i see a smoke
screen.
As long as it is good for the capatilist system [seen to be doing] we

Drop-in sessions

raymond.co...@opencommunities.org (Administrator) — Wed, 11 Nov 2007 16:30:45 UT

Drop in sessions
The Residents Advisory Panel has arranged the following drop in
sessions
for you to find out more about the project. Staff from Open
Communities
will be on hand to talk to you about the project. Apologies for not
getting this on to the site earlier.

Thursday 22nd November

Advisory Panel Information

raymond.co...@opencommunities.org (Administrator) — Wed, 11 Nov 2007 16:18:43 UT

The tenants and residents advisory panel meet monthly at the former
B.I.C.C club on the third Wednesday of every month. Residents from all
areas of Caia Park attend the meetings which are organised by Caia
Park Communities First. The tenants and residents decide the agenda
each month, and issues concerning residents are discussed and where