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Steve M  
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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 00:10
Newsgroups: borland.public.delphi.non-technical
From: "Steve M" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:10:23 -0500
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 00:10
Subject: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
Yesterday I installed System Mechanic 7 on two computers and optimized my
system.  Today I tried to compile a Delphi app and neither machine is able
to compile an app.  One machine has Delphi 2006 Professional, the other
Turbo Delphi 2006 Explorer.  The error reported is:

Error box:
Caption: bds.exe   bordbk100N.dll
Message: Assertion failure:  (nMoved == sizeof(scParm->callArgs))  in
..\win32src\proc32.cpp at line 1919.

Doing a search I found this QC entry:

http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=38659

I contacted  Benedykt Kubica who reported the error and he also installed
System Mechanic 7 just before the problem surfaced.  I'm certain that SM7 is
problem.  I've used the Undo option to rollback some of the changes but this
has not resolved the problem.

Looking at the QC report this would seem like a tough problem to solve so
think twice before you install SM7 on a BDS machine.

Naturally, if anyone has any suggestion as to how I may be able to get
Delphi working again I'd be delighted to hear from them.

Regards,

Steve Maughan
Cozmix Inc


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 09:23
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:23:08 +0100
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 09:23
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

"Steve M" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:45b2af50$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Yesterday I installed System Mechanic 7 on two computers and optimized my system.  Today I tried
> to compile a Delphi app and neither machine is able to compile an app.  One machine has Delphi
> 2006 Professional, the other Turbo Delphi 2006 Explorer.  The error reported is:

> Error box:

Yeah, I remember Norton has a simular PC-fix toy some years ago.
It created problems on your PC you never had before.

/ia


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 11:02
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:02:21 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 11:02
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

Steve M wrote:
> Error box:
> Caption: bds.exe   bordbk100N.dll
> Message: Assertion failure:  (nMoved == sizeof(scParm->callArgs))  in
> ...\win32src\proc32.cpp at line 1919.

try to register again bordbk100N.dll, or try to "run without debugging"

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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 11:07
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:07:41 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 11:07
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

me wrote:
> try to register again bordbk100N.dll

with "regsvr32.exe bordbk100N.dll" in the $(BDS)\bin folder

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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 12:30
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From: "Steve M" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:30:52 -0500
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 12:30
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
Thanks for the tip - unfortantely it didn't work.

Thanks again,

Steve


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 12:50
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:50:31 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 12:50
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
try this with turbo delphi explorer:

backup first, then delete the "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland"
branch from registry

also delete any key related with bordbk100N.dll, also run
"regsvr32 /u bordbk100N.dll"

finally,  register bordbk100N.dll with regsvr32.exe bordbk100N.dll,
then run turbo delphi explorer and try a new project

also, check the presence of the following files in windows\system32:

adortl100.bpl
adortl100.jdbg
adortl100.xml
bdertl100.bpl
bdertl100.jdbg
bdertl100.xml
dbexpress100.bpl
dbexpress100.jdbg
dbexpress100.xml
dbrtl100.bpl
dbrtl100.jdbg
dbrtl100.xml
dbxcds100.bpl
dbxcds100.jdbg
dbxcds100.xml
dsnap100.bpl
dsnap100.jdbg
dsnap100.xml
dss100.bpl
dss100.jdbg
dss100.xml
ibxpress100.bpl
inet100.bpl
inet100.jdbg
inet100.xml
inetdb100.bpl
inetdb100.jdbg
inetdb100.xml
inetdbbde100.bpl
inetdbbde100.jdbg
inetdbbde100.xml
inetdbxpress100.bpl
inetdbxpress100.jdbg
inetdbxpress100.xml
midas.dll
midas.jdbg
rtl100.bpl
rtl100.jdbg
rtl100.xml
soaprtl100.bpl
soaprtl100.jdbg
soaprtl100.xml
tee100.bpl
tee100.jdbg
teedb100.bpl
teedb100.jdbg
teeui100.bpl
teeui100.jdbg
vcl100.bpl
vcl100.jdbg
vcl100.xml
vcldb100.bpl
vcldb100.jdbg
vcldb100.xml
vcldbx100.bpl
vcldbx100.jdbg
vclib100.bpl
vclie100.bpl
vclie100.jdbg
vclie100.xml
vcljpg100.bpl
vcljpg100.jdbg
vcljpg100.xml
vclshlctrls100.bpl
vclsmp100.bpl
vclx100.bpl
vclx100.jdbg
vclx100.xml
xerceslib.dll
xercesxmldom.dll
xmlrtl100.bpl
xmlrtl100.jdbg
xmlrtl100.xml


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 14:59
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From: Steve Maughan <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:59:04 -0500
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 14:59
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
I tried this but to no avail.  I still got the exact same error, an
assert fail at line 1919.  I notice that according to the QC log even
re-installing Delphi didn't work.  It would seem that this is a OS problem.

Thanks again for your help - any other suggestions will be appreciated,

Regards,

Steve Maughan


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 16:04
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:04:07 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 16:04
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
backup then delete the following registry branch:
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\BDS\4.0\Known IDE Packages"

then put the following lines in a text file with the reg extension and
register it (none of those packages needs .net framework):

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\BDS\4.0\Known IDE Packages]
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\idefilefilters100.bpl"="IDE File filters"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\dbkdebugide100.bpl"="(Untitled)"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\coreproide100.bpl"="Core IDE Pro Package"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\IDETools100.bpl"="Build Tools"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\historyide100.bpl"="(Untitled)"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\codetemplates100.bpl"="Borland Code Templates Manager"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\todoide100.bpl"="Borland ToDo"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\BDS\4.0\Known IDE Packages\Delphi]
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\delphide100.bpl"="Delphi Win32 IDE Personality"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\delphivclide100.bpl"="Delphi VCL Designer IDE Package"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\vclmenudesigner100.bpl"="(Untitled)"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\win32debugide100.bpl"="(Untitled)"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\win32debugproide100.bpl"="(Untitled)"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\delphipro100.bpl"="(Untitled)"
"$(BDS)\\Bin\\delphicoreproide100.bpl"="(Untitled)"


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 16:07
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:07:01 +0100
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 16:07
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
"Steve Maughan" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com> skrev i
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>I tried this but to no avail.  I still got the exact same error, an
> assert fail at line 1919.  I notice that according to the QC log even
> re-installing Delphi didn't work.  It would seem that this is a OS problem.

> Thanks again for your help - any other suggestions will be appreciated,

Not much but...

http://www.groupsrv.com/computers/ptopic103612.html


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 17:08
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From: "Steve M" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:08:36 -0500
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 17:08
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
Will this work on my Turbo Delphi Explorer?  I'm doing all of the fix
experiments on this machine as I don't want to mess with my production
Delphi 2006 Pro (I wish I'd been as caucious on Friday!).

Thanks for the help,

Steve


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 17:47
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:47:37 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 17:47
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

Steve M wrote:
> Will this work on my Turbo Delphi Explorer?  I'm doing all of the fix
> experiments on this machine as I don't want to mess with my production
> Delphi 2006 Pro (I wish I'd been as caucious on Friday!).

all my advices apply only to turbo delphi explorer

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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 17:49
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From: Steve Maughan <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:49:20 -0500
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 17:49
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
I looked in varies directories and the files existed so I went ahead as
you suggested.  Unfortunately it still does not work - very frustrating.
  I notice in that in the original QC post someone even tries to
re-install Delphi and even that didn't work.  This is a major problem
for me.

As ever, all help appreciated,

Steve Maughan

PS I noticed that the compiler is creating the EXE, it only when I press
F9 and try to run the program that it encounters the problem and exits
from Delphi.  I ran the EXE from outside Delphi i.e. double clicked, and
the program ran without a problem.  This would suggest that it's
something to do with the debugger.


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 18:40
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:40:27 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 18:40
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
ok, i installed system mechanic 7, optimized the system, and the
debugging in the IDE stopped working, with a similar error. none of my
advices worked.

after i uninstalled system mechanic 7, and registering bordbk100n.dll,
the integrated debugging works fine.


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 19:04
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:04:47 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 19:04
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
to be specific, the troubles came from a service installed by system
mechanic 7, "iolo DMV Service". if disabled, everything runs without
trouble.

for the record, the last error message is:
"error setting debug exception hook"


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 18:51
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:51:35 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 18:51
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

me wrote:
> ok, i installed system mechanic 7, optimized the system, and the
> debugging in the IDE stopped working, with a similar error. none of my
> advices worked.

> after i uninstalled system mechanic 7, and registering bordbk100n.dll,
> the integrated debugging works fine.

i installed system mechanic 7 again, without running it, and the
integrated debugging stopped again; in my case, it seems that just the
uninstallation of the sm7 resolved the problem

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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 21:39
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From: "Steve M" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:39:44 -0500
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 21:39
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many, many thanks!!  I disabled the "iolo DMV service" and everything runs
as expected.  I was psyching myself up for a "format and re-install" Monday.
Thanks to you that will not be necessary.

For the record, in case anyone else is having problems this is what you need
to do if you get an assertion failure (line 1919) in "bordbk100N.dll" after
installing System Mechanic 7.  I had version 7.05 to be exact.:

    1. In the Control Panel run Administrative Tools
    2. Select "Services"
    3. Find "iolo DMV Service"
    4. Right click and select Properties
    5. Set Startup Type to "Disabled"
    6. Reboot and everything should be back to normal

I hope this helps some,

Thanks again,

Steve

PS What's your name?


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 More options 21 Jan 2007, 22:13
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:13:22 +0200
Local: Sun 21 Jan 2007 22:13
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

sorry, old settings in the newsreader client
Eduard S

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 More options 22 Jan 2007, 00:21
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:51:23 +1030
Local: Mon 22 Jan 2007 00:21
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
"Steve M" <maughancentral-djobs2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Many, many thanks!!  I disabled the "iolo DMV service" and everything runs
> as expected.  I was psyching myself up for a "format and re-install"
> Monday. Thanks to you that will not be necessary.

I've been watching from the sidelines - pleased for your sake to see you
score a goal with that excellent cross from Eduard!

Enough of the soccer analogies - FWIW it seems that it is not only Delphi
that gets indigestion from System Mechanic 7 - a quick google for 'iolo dmv
service' brings up a few similar horror stories.

quote: "Apparently, this service injects code into every running process."
If that is so, all I can say is 'Aaargh!!!!'

--
Chris Burrows
CFB Software
http://www.cfbsoftware.com/gpcp


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 More options 22 Jan 2007, 00:10
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From: "Mark A. Andrews" <KE...@KE4MA.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:10:25 -0600
Local: Mon 22 Jan 2007 00:10
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!

Steve M wrote:

> Naturally, if anyone has any suggestion as to how I may be able to get
> Delphi working again I'd be delighted to hear from them.

Since this appears to by a System Mechanic 7 problem, I suggest you
update QC and start bugging Iolo Technologies.

I had a similar problem after upgrading AVG from 7.1 to 7.5. Grisoft was
very prompt in working with me to resolve the problem and very quickly
released a bug fix.

Mark


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 More options 22 Jan 2007, 00:40
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:40:42 -0500
Local: Mon 22 Jan 2007 00:40
Subject: Re: WARNING - System Mechanic 7 messes up Delphi!!
Done!


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