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From: Mickwick <mickw...@use.reply.to>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:59:16 +0000
Local: Sat 7 Feb 2004 13:59
Subject: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
... Ratboys, Kappa Slappers, Skangers, Janners, Stigs, Scallies, Sengas,
Pikeys, Gallus Weegies and a Generous Assortment of Neds. The following websites define and illustrate various terms current in http://www.chavscum.co.uk/culture.html http://homepage.ntlworld.com/no31online/spidegenerator.htm http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/nedagotchi/glaNedagotchi.html http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/people/glaPeople.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/tv/chewinthefat/neds/neducation.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/tv/chewinthefat/personality_test/index.sht 'Chav', by the way, comes from the Sanskrit 'sava' via Polari and -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "RobertE" <r...@spamkillasgaard.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:30:35 -0000
Local: Sat 7 Feb 2004 15:30
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
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> ... Ratboys, Kappa Slappers, Skangers, Janners, Stigs, Scallies, Sengas, Hmm. Charvs (or as they're called in Newcastle, "Charvers") seem to be all > Pikeys, Gallus Weegies and a Generous Assortment of Neds. > 'Chav', by the way, comes from the Sanskrit 'sava' via Polari and > Romany. the rage at the moment. Dot Wordsworth's "Mind Your Language" column in this week's Spectator magazine is also about charvers. For what it's worth, she gives the same etymology. It's something we discuss regularly at my office. We assumed, though, that Thanks for the web links. They're quite enlightening. RobertE You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: Mickwick <mickw...@use.reply.to>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:35:30 +0000
Local: Sat 7 Feb 2004 19:35
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
In alt.usage.english, RobertE wrote: That's where I got it from, and that's what prompted me to visit those >"Mickwick" <mickw...@use.reply.to> wrote in message >> 'Chav', by the way, comes from the Sanskrit 'sava' via Polari and >> Romany. >Hmm. Charvs (or as they're called in Newcastle, "Charvers") seem to be all websites. >It's something we discuss regularly at my office. Interesting office! > We assumed, though, that the word "charver" was unique to the North Not necessarily. The phenomenon is widespread but most of the words used >East of England. Seems we were wrong. to describe it are probably fairly local. (Else why are there so many of them?) 'Spide', for example, seems to be restricted to Northern Ireland, and 'senga' to Glasgow. 'Ned' might be the exception but I don't know enough about it to say for The original Ratboy was from your part of the world, I think. Does >Thanks for the web links. They're quite enlightening. Did you manage to keep your nedagotchi alive? -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "Dave Kenworthy" <dave.kenwor...@bt0penworld.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sat 7 Feb 2004 20:35
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
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From: Mickwick <mickw...@use.reply.to>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 20:49:20 +0000
Local: Sun 8 Feb 2004 20:49
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
In alt.usage.english, Dave Kenworthy wrote:
>I think Viz has done a lot to popularise 'Ratboy' beyond the north east, as If Urbandictionary.com is a reliable indicator of popularity (which it >it has for a number of other previously-regional issues (like Ace lager, for >one!) probably isn't) then sadly 'ratboy' has yet to make the bigtime. There are only three definitions, all of them a little odd. For example: ratboy A fat kid who DOES NOT know kung fu. By contrast, there are 139 definitions of 'townie' This is quite a phenomenon! I find it fascinating. All of these words And, although often fuelled by the usual Urbandictionary bile, many of Here are the regions, as far as I can tell: Townie Everywhere. Particularly associated with Pikey South Coast of England, where it has shed its Charva/charver North East. Chav Kent. Scally Originally Liverpool but widely understood. Ned Originally Glasgow, then Edinburgh, now current Kev Claimed as Brummie, but Kevin has long been a Skanger Dublin. Janner Portsmouth. Stig Everywhere. From the book 'Stig of the Dump'. Spide Belfast. (Originally 'Spiderman'.) Steek Belfast. Yarco Great Yarmouth - a 'townie' employee of Yarco. Some highlights (or perhaps not) from Urbandictionary.com: ned Irritating guys who throw rocks at buses [...] (Good luck, Jacqui!) And: [...] the troubles in n. Ireland were caused by spides, and And: In Polari (1950s gay slang) charver means shag. I'm going to charver your brains out. And: Northeast Dick Head. A person from Northeast Philadelphia who (Oy! Stop nicking our slang!) Things to look out for: Acne Things not to say: Did you know that 'charver' is gay slang? -- You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: teddysn...@hotmail.com (Edward)
Date: 9 Feb 2004 06:07:38 -0800
Local: Mon 9 Feb 2004 14:07
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
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> This is quite a phenomenon! I find it fascinating. All of these words In this part of thw world (Gloucestershire) 'chav' is used exclusively > (and an overwhelming majority of the definitions) describe the same male > sub-culture (I forgot to check the definitions of the female equivalents > - 'millie', 'senga' etc.) and they seem to have arisen independently in > different regions. (Even if they share the same etymology, as > 'charva'/'charver' and 'chav' may well do.) to describe girls, immediately identifiable by the Croydon facelift. Edward You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "RobertE" <r...@spamkillasgaard.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:46:15 -0000
Local: Mon 9 Feb 2004 22:46
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
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> In this part of thw world (Gloucestershire) 'chav' is used exclusively Croydon facelift? That's a new one on me. What it is? > to describe girls, immediately identifiable by the Croydon facelift. RobertE You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: teddysn...@hotmail.com (Edward)
Date: 10 Feb 2004 06:13:22 -0800
Local: Tues 10 Feb 2004 14:13
Subject: Re: Chavs, Townies, Kevs, Charvers, Steeks, Spides, Bazzas, Yarcos ...
"RobertE" <r...@spamkillasgaard.co.uk> wrote in message <news:40280db8$0$38037$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net>... A hairstyle where the hair is scraped back so tightly from the face > "Edward" <teddysn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:25080b60.0402090607.514c1794@posting.google.com... > > In this part of thw world (Gloucestershire) 'chav' is used exclusively > Croydon facelift? That's a new one on me. What it is? > RobertE (often into a hideous topknot, the better to display poorly-dyed split ends) that it brings into prominence the wearer's cheekbones. Edward You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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From: "RobertE" <r...@spamkillasgaard.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:27:13 -0000
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From: teddysn...@hotmail.com (Edward)
Date: 11 Feb 2004 00:36:30 -0800
Local: Wed 11 Feb 2004 08:36
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