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Mike Lyle  
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From: "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:15:32 -0000
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research

Yep, that's the stand I tried. I was also bought one in Hõfn which
didn't seem any different, but I really was weak with hunger and very
cold, so I finished that one. The Grauniad must have sent their football
correspondent to do the review.

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Steve Hayes  
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:29:08 +0200
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:59:07 -0000, "Mike Lyle"

<mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>The cheapest imaginable imitation frankfurter*, concocted out of
>animals' bottoms and other tissue superfluous to the dog-food trade,

I'm rather partial to animal-bottom (aka rump) steak.

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James Hogg  
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:39:18 +0100
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research

Maybe they served you the deep-fried Mars bar by mistake.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE)  
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From: "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:47:22 +0000
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:09:23 +0100, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com>
wrote:

    Among famous people who have eaten at Bæjarins beztu are Bill
    Clinton, former president of the United States...

    The woman who served Clinton still regularly works at the stand,
    with a photo and caricature of Clinton being served on the back
    wall.

Sorry folks - the words "caricature", "Clinton" and "served" conjured up
an image of Clinton, his hotdog and Monica Lewinsky.

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James Hogg  
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:59:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research

It depends what you mean by "hotdog".

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Tyngewick  
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:19:36 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On 5 Nov, 11:14, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.not.china> wrote:

You are Fair Go Dibbler and I claim my five dollars.

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Django Cat  
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From: "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:24:43 GMT
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research

tony cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:01:40 -0800 (PST), William
> <will...@lowerknowle.com> wrote:

> >On 4 Nov, 19:36, Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
> >> I can't find the relevant place in the appropriate thread, but I
> thought >> you'd appreciate knowing that Sainsbury's today were
> selling "burger >> buns" and "hotdog rolls".

> > I didn't join the "American foodstuffs" thread, since its title
> > suggested a regional nature to the enquiry, but the above has always
> > been my only possible terminology for that usage of those
> > bread-items.

> Funny, but I just can't picture hot dogs being eaten in the UK.

That may be because many Americans would associate ball game
iconigraphy with hot dogs.  Or not, what do I know?

However, for many of us hot dogs are the high point of a visit to IKEA.

DC

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tony cooper  
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From: tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:46:18 -0500
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:24:43 GMT, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com>
wrote:

For you, maybe.  I look forward to IKEA's cinnamon rolls.  Sticky
buns.  It's one of the few shopping destinations with my wife that I
agree to because of them.

http://www.ikeafans.com/home/tag/ikea-cinnamon-rolls.html

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Jerry Friedman  
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From: Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:58:33 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Nov 4, 1:01 pm, William <will...@lowerknowle.com> wrote:

> On 4 Nov, 19:36, Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:

> > I can't find the relevant place in the appropriate thread, but I thought
> > you'd appreciate knowing that Sainsbury's today were selling "burger
> > buns" and "hotdog rolls".

> I didn't join the "American foodstuffs" thread, since its title
> suggested a regional nature to the enquiry, but the above has always
> been my only possible terminology for that usage of those bread-items.

This is what it was about.  Though I was particularly interested in
American terms for these bread-items, I thank you and Nick for your
contributions.  It may not be a coincidence that people on our East
Coast used the same terms as you do.

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CDB  
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From: "CDB" <bellema...@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:35:39 -0500
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:59:07 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
> <mike_lyle...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> The cheapest imaginable imitation frankfurter*, concocted out of
>> animals' bottoms and other tissue superfluous to the dog-food
>> trade,

> I'm rather partial to animal-bottom (aka rump) steak.

A  faux commercial from the Newfoundland comedy troupe Codco that has
stayed with me features Greg Malone staring into the camera and
intoning "Any food can cause Bad Breath, even the rectal tissue of
cows, or 'bologna', as you know it."

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Django Cat  
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From: "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:04:51 GMT
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research

> Along some main roads, but not on others, every other layby seems to
> have a van or a scruffy temporary hut selling "Burgers, Hot Dogs".
> The clientele consists mostly of lorry drivers. The proprietors of
> the huts are undoubtedly the most patriotic Britishers you will find
> anywhere, because they usually instal a line of half-a-dozen-or-so
> Union Jack flags (often with some flying upside down) spaced at  20m
> intervals along the roadside on the approach to the layby.

All along the A55 North Wales expressway it's Welsh Dragon flags.  It's
a lot harder to fly those upside down...

> Of course,
> being quintessentially British, they also sell cups of tea in plastic
> mugs.

Often they serve tea in china mugs, good for keeping hands warm on a
chilly morning.  Patrons return the mugs to the counter when they've
finished.

>Which roads have these huts, and which do not, is determined by
> the level of police activity aimed at closing them down.  

I'm pretty certain chuck wagons are regulated by the local council and
have to pass the usual public health rules.  The ones near here are a
very useful amenity and many have been around for as long as I've been
driving.

>Urban
> legend (which I have not tried to confirm by independent research)
> asserts that they nearly all fail to reach the standards of public
> health hygiene required by the law, and that that is the reason why
> the police in some areas are actively shutting them down.

I've not seen evidence of any of that, maybe it happens in other parts
of the country, but I do travel a lot.

> The police
> in other areas can't be arsed, I suppose.

I think if there's any issue of public health or health and safety the
local authority (rather than the Police) generally move like greased
lightening (as it were).

> I like to think that I am the sort of person who will try everything
> that life has to offer (except that I draw the line at hard drugs,
> Morris Dancing and jellied eels, none of which will I ever try).

Well, I thought it was Oscar Wilde that said 'try everything once
except incest and country dancing', but now I've Googled it I'm not so
sure.

>Be
> that as it may, at 67 years of age I have never yet been a customer
> at one of these roadside huts. Susan and I were discussing this
> serious deficiency in both our lives a couple of weeks ago, as we
> were driving along the A65 Leeds - Kendal road on our way back home
> from a weekend in the Lake District. This stretch of road has an
> unusually large number of burger huts along its length. We have
> agreed that we will stop and buy a cup of tea (and if we feel really
> brave, a burger) at one of these huts the next time we go to the Lake
> District. When we eventually do so, I shall write a full report on
> our experiences and post it on aue.

Richard, with enormous respect I think you're being over cautious and a
little unfair. I'd way rather stop at an independent, family-run chuck
wagon or truck stop than pay through the nose in one of the awful
Little Chef chain restaurants or, God forbid, a motorway services, both
places I loath.  I've never once been to a roadside place that's dirty,
and the food is usually plain and simple, and can often be very good,
with home cooked pies and cakes. There's also usually a lot of
good-natured banter going on with regulars (yes, lots of lorry drivers
and all sorts of other travellers too). Setting out on a long journey
early in the day on a cold morning I take a real pleasure in stopping
off for breakfast after the first hour - a bacon barm and a mug of tea
maybe - and then going on with the journey.  There's a couple of
especially good stops as you come down the A57 Woodhead Pass and and
then onto the Stocksbridge bypass - all last bastions of free
independent enterprise before hours of being the target of corporate
greed in M1 service stations on my drive to London.  Embrace the day
and give a chuck wagon a try, Richard, a whole new world awaits you.

DC
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Django Cat  
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:16:22 GMT
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research

They sound great, but I wonder if IKEA is the same in the US as here?
There's always a counter after the checkout that just sells Hot Dogs
(veggie or carniverous), coffee and soft drinks and chips/fries, and
possibly ice cream.  Cinnamon rolls may be around in the restaurant or
the Swedish food shop, but I've not encountered them

DC
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Peter Duncanson (BrE)  
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:20:41 +0000
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:04:51 GMT, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com>
wrote:

>I think if there's any issue of public health or health and safety the
>local authority (rather than the Police) generally move like greased
>lightening (as it were).

That would be "greased lightening" as opposed to the alternative food
additive "gritty darkening".

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James Hogg  
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They're in aisle 37 in the Warrington branch. You have to assemble them
yourself.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:21:56 +0000 (UTC)
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:24:43 +0000, Django Cat wrote:
> for many of us hot dogs are the high point of a visit to IKEA.

Wot no meatballs?

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... comparable to being ruler of an exceptionally small duchy.
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Paul Wolff  
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:54:55 +0000
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
tsuidf <stephanie.mitch...@telenet.be> wrote

>On Nov 4, 10:51 pm, LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>> tsuidf wrote:

>> > Quick, here's a cup of tea and a chocolate finger!

>> > hope it helps,
>> > Stephanie

>> How very kind. All I need now is the port.
>>(Seehttp://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html)

>Gosh, most impressive.  Am pretty certain I'd be much much better at
>the technique for speaking on the phone.

It's a knack, You've either got it, or you haven't.
--
Paul
Just back from a seminar at which harsh words were spoken of Neelie and DG
Comp.

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Chuck Riggs  
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:31:25 GMT, the Omrud

Outside the country's borders, I suspect it is nigh impossible to
enjoy the flavour of a typical American bacon, lettuce and tomato
sandwich (a BLT, as they are called there), unless you have access to
American whole wheat bread, American mayonnaise, preferably Hellman's,
which is possible, and, most especially and with the greatest
difficulty of all, American bacon, fat and all. After many years of
trying, I have not even come close to duplicating them, using Irish
ingredients, which I find a little surprising.
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Chuck Riggs  
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:17:24 +0000
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:10:54 -0800, Evan Kirshenbaum

The best I've eaten are found in Munich.
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:22:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:16:22 GMT, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com>
wrote:

While I am willing to go to IKEA because of the lure of the cinnamon
rolls, I've only been there twice.  Its clear on the other side of
town, and my wife combines trips to IKEA with shopping forays to the
big Millenia Mall* in the same area.  That's a deal breaker for me.

IKEA, here, has a food court that my wife says offers some tasty
dishes.  Near the check-out lanes, there are booths that sell the
cinnamon rolls, Swedish meatballs (for some reason, a featured item at
IKEA), coffee, and some other goodies.  By the time we check out, I'm
ready to bolt so I haven't paid attention to what the other goodies
are.

I am willing to go clothes shopping with my wife and offer advice on
what looks good on her.  She seems to appreciate my advice.  However,
I'm of the "If you like it, and it looks good on you, buy it" school.
She's of the "Yes, I like it but there may be something better around
the next corner" school.  She simply does not understand buying the
first thing seen that works, but she will often circle back and buy
that very thing.  

* The name and spelling, as they do it, is "The Mall at Millenia".

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:34:40 GMT
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tony cooper wrote:
> IKEA, here, has a food court that my wife says offers some tasty
> dishes.  Near the check-out lanes, there are booths that sell the
> cinnamon rolls, Swedish meatballs (for some reason, a featured item at
> IKEA),

Quite right.  Swedish meatballs are well worth the trip.  They're closer
to a sausage than an Italian meatball, and they are very good.

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William  
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:02:17 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Supermarket research
On 5 Nov, 13:24, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com> wrote:

> However, for many of us hot dogs are the high point of a visit to IKEA.

For me, Punschrulle are the high-point of a visit to IKEA.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tifty/114802890/

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:09:37 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 5, 3:31 am, the Omrud <usenet.om...@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote:

> The van in the lay-by at the end of our main road, where it meets the
> motorway, is a favourite stopping place for our local police - there's
> usually one or two cars there in the morning when I pass by.

Last June in Rio, spouse and I wandered for some time trying to find
the right little local dining spot for some real Brazilian food. Found
a place filled with what appeared to be locals and sat down. Our
choice was validated a few minutes later when a police car drove up,
and without their having to order anything, food was brought out to
them by the staff. Didn't see whether they paid for it <g>.

Further validation ensued once our food arrived at the table.

General observations about Brazilian food: they have real cheese
(local pizza place was an eye-opener), exotic fruit, and the best meat
anywhere (I'm 90% vegetarian, but ate more meat during two weeks than
I usually have in a year).

Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
--
Karma Repair Kit: Items 1-4

1. Get enough food to eat,
        and eat it.
2. Find a place to sleep where it is quiet,
        and sleep there.
3. Reduce intellectual and emotional noise
     until you arrive at the silence of yourself,
        and listen to it.
4.
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From: Nick Spalding <spald...@iol.ie>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:15:21 +0000
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 18:15
Subject: Re: Supermarket research
Django Cat wrote, in <DICIm.43144$%%3.24...@newsfe23.ams2>
 on Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:04:51 GMT:

> > I like to think that I am the sort of person who will try everything
> > that life has to offer (except that I draw the line at hard drugs,
> > Morris Dancing and jellied eels, none of which will I ever try).

> Well, I thought it was Oscar Wilde that said 'try everything once
> except incest and country dancing', but now I've Googled it I'm not so
> sure.

Sir Thomas Beecham is what I remember from Timothy West's version of
him, except I think it was folk dancing.
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 More options 5 Nov, 18:19
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From: Nick <3-nos...@temporary-address.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:19:18 +0000
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 18:19
Subject: Re: Supermarket research

James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> writes:
> They [cinnamon rolls]'re in aisle 37 in the Warrington branch. You
> have to assemble them yourself.

They're presumably called "bonko" or "fartish" or something rather than
"cinnamon rolls".
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 More options 5 Nov, 18:35
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From: "Django Cat" <notar...@address.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:35:17 GMT
Local: Thurs 5 Nov 2009 18:35
Subject: Re: Supermarket research

Ah, time was we had the choice of an hours drive to Warrington IKEA
(West) or an hours drive to Leeds IKEA (North East).  Now we have our
very own IKEA in Ashton-under-Lyne (of Bill Sowerbutts fame).

DC
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