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  <title type="text">alt.travel.uk.air Google Group</title>
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  Discussion of air travel in the UK
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  <updated>2009-12-03T17:31:59Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Roland Perry</name>
  <email>rol...@perry.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-03T17:31:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/eb2d797841b3c66c?show_docid=eb2d797841b3c66c</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  In message &amp;lt;n6SRm.43091$AD4.24...@newsfe0 4.ams2&amp;gt;, at 16:58:00 on Thu, 3 &lt;br&gt; Dec 2009, Buddenbrooks &amp;lt;knightstemp...@budweiser.com&amp;gt; remarked: &lt;br&gt; I they confirmed the transaction, there&#39;s a contract. If they (in &lt;br&gt; effect) refuse to take the money, that&#39;s their problem. The right &lt;br&gt; procedure would be: &lt;br&gt; Airline gets a &amp;quot;maybe&amp;quot; from the CCC, and puts the transaction on ice.
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  <author>
  <name>tim....</name>
  <email>tims_new_h...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-03T17:30:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/cccab19283ae471e?show_docid=cccab19283ae471e</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  This is not correct. The passenger agreed to pay the money and had every &lt;br&gt; expectation that it would be taken. The other partly deciding not to take &lt;br&gt; it (without first repudiating the contract) does not remove the essence of &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;consideration&amp;quot; from the contract. &lt;br&gt; tim
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  <author>
  <name>Buddenbrooks</name>
  <email>knightstemp...@budweiser.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-03T16:58:00Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; And as I understand it, as no money has changed hands there is no contract &lt;br&gt; so no hope of compensation. &lt;br&gt; With this airline I now pay by debit card so I can see the deduction a few &lt;br&gt; days later rather than wait for the credit card statement.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Neil Williams</name>
  <email>pacer...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-03T10:01:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/d9a953afc2fd9f54?show_docid=d9a953afc2fd9f54</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  I expect so. On another front, several KLM staff have told me that &lt;br&gt; checking in online is a way to ensure you won&#39;t get involuntarily &lt;br&gt; bumped from very busy flights (several people are bumped from the peak &lt;br&gt; Friday AMS-BHX and AMS-LHR flights every week). &lt;br&gt; It did work - I was never bumped in 9 months of weekly travel.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Roland Perry</name>
  <email>rol...@perry.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-03T06:30:42Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/969c082864f25b44?show_docid=969c082864f25b44"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  In message &amp;lt;KBCRm.47212$Pi.28...@newsfe30 .ams2&amp;gt;, at 23:19:10 on Wed, 2 &lt;br&gt; Dec 2009, Buddenbrooks &amp;lt;knightstemp...@budweiser.com&amp;gt; remarked: &lt;br&gt; This can also happen if a Credit Card charge is flagged as potentially &lt;br&gt; fraudulent. Apparently some airlines just cancel the booking and don&#39;t &lt;br&gt; tell you until you get to the airport - at which point you have no seat,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Buddenbrooks</name>
  <email>knightstemp...@budweiser.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T23:19:10Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  &amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; I have had several flights cancelled with Rion this year. One was due to &lt;br&gt; fog the others due to &lt;br&gt; schedule change. Several changes of flight time. Most of the changes to &lt;br&gt; schedule have been within a month of the flight. &lt;br&gt; In the case of the fog the flight out of Dublin 2 hours before had been &lt;br&gt; cancelled and we were released from the departure lounge 1 hour after
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Roland Perry</name>
  <email>rol...@perry.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T11:53:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/b70fd5226df91644?show_docid=b70fd5226df91644</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/b70fd5226df91644?show_docid=b70fd5226df91644"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  In message &amp;lt;_mdRm.27206$064.6...@newsfe17 .ams2&amp;gt;, at 18:36:40 on Tue, 1 &lt;br&gt; Dec 2009, Buddenbrooks &amp;lt;knightstemp...@budweiser.com&amp;gt; remarked: &lt;br&gt; Just booked my BMIbaby ticket - headline fare was E20.06, but after bare &lt;br&gt; minimum &amp;quot;extras&amp;quot; (one bag) it came to E83.25 paying by Credit Card.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Roland Perry</name>
  <email>rol...@perry.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-02T08:04:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/2895819b306e68fb?show_docid=2895819b306e68fb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/2895819b306e68fb?show_docid=2895819b306e68fb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  In message &amp;lt;_mdRm.27206$064.6...@newsfe17 .ams2&amp;gt;, at 18:36:40 on Tue, 1 &lt;br&gt; Dec 2009, Buddenbrooks &amp;lt;knightstemp...@budweiser.com&amp;gt; remarked: &lt;br&gt; The more that time goes by, the more I pick the carrier *simply* because &lt;br&gt; they fly the route. There is very little duplication in practice. So my &lt;br&gt; most recent flight was with Easyjet, my next one is with BMIbaby, and
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Roland Perry</name>
  <email>rol...@perry.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T20:09:18Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/432528d82a578f48?show_docid=432528d82a578f48"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  In message &amp;lt;4b1573bd.779194...@news.indiv idual.net&amp;gt;, at 19:52:28 on Tue, &lt;br&gt; 1 Dec 2009, Neil Williams &amp;lt;wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.u k&amp;gt; remarked: &lt;br&gt; For the last Ryanair flight I looked up (Canaries at half term) that &lt;br&gt; would be less than the online fare!
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Neil Williams</name>
  <email>wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T19:55:39Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:36:40 -0000, &amp;quot;Buddenbrooks&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; There is that. But I did once pay him about 160 quid for a return &lt;br&gt; flight (to Salzburg, nearest I could get to Muenchen on that occasion &lt;br&gt; for a decent price as it was the Oktoberfest) and as the flight was &lt;br&gt; perfectly fine in both directions I didn&#39;t have any complaint about
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Neil Williams</name>
  <email>wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T19:52:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/a5021e545a9c9793?show_docid=a5021e545a9c9793</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:38:16 -0000, &amp;quot;tim....&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; I believe it used to be the case that all flights were gbp299 when &lt;br&gt; bought that way, but I have no idea if that&#39;s still true. &lt;br&gt; Neil
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Buddenbrooks</name>
  <email>knightstemp...@budweiser.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T18:36:40Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/661239eadcaac51f?show_docid=661239eadcaac51f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  &amp;gt; The fact that Abbey were stopping issuing Electron cards was part of the &lt;br&gt; But they keep banging on about it and never mention it also applies to &lt;br&gt; easy met. &lt;br&gt; They also incorrectly keep stating that it is an available card, when &lt;br&gt; there was 3 UK suppliers and &lt;br&gt; most European countries issue them. Ryan Air is a non-UK multi nation
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>tim....</name>
  <email>tims_new_h...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T15:39:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/f59875c067f478ac?show_docid=f59875c067f478ac</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/f59875c067f478ac?show_docid=f59875c067f478ac"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  Oh come on. &lt;br&gt; This Michael O&#39;Leary we&#39;re talking about, not Mother Teresa &lt;br&gt; tim
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>tim....</name>
  <email>tims_new_h...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T15:38:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/bc2e24f00693c148?show_docid=bc2e24f00693c148</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/bc2e24f00693c148?show_docid=bc2e24f00693c148"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  only if you want to pay more for the actual fare &lt;br&gt; tim
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Roland Perry</name>
  <email>rol...@perry.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-01T14:53:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/968449344320d77c?show_docid=968449344320d77c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.travel.uk.air/browse_frm/thread/0e5eb5b93f6aaf4f/968449344320d77c?show_docid=968449344320d77c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Rion Air</title>
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  In message &amp;lt;7nkkrkF3mk9v...@mid.individua l.net&amp;gt;, at 13:42:23 on Tue, 1 &lt;br&gt; Dec 2009, tim.... &amp;lt;tims_new_h...@yahoo.co.uk&amp;gt; remarked: &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m not quite that cynical. They seemed to be quite proud that 30% of &lt;br&gt; bookings used the otherwise rare Electron Card, as an excuse to cream &lt;br&gt; the other 70%. If the percentage of pre-pay cards falls much below that,
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