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From: "Alex Talpur" <Atalpurnos...@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:34:27 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri 31 May 2002 22:34
Subject: Rhino eps vs. Original eps-The differences [LONG]
Well, its been some time since the DVD set came out, and even I'm surprised
that no one has attempted to catalogue all the differences between the season 1 Rhino version episodes as seen on the new DVD box-set and the original episodes. But since there's been a couple of weeks for me to make this (thorough but I'm sure not complete) list, I thought I'd put it on the group. As has been well documented, Rhino used whatever original film materials they could find to ensure the highest possible picture quality for the episodes' release onto DVD. However, since some scenes' original film materials could not be found, some scenes were taken directly from the 1 inch master tapes (these are the finished episodes after retakes). Looking at the actual film materials found, it can be seen that most of the animation is exactly the same as what was ultimately used. However, there were numerous scenes that were animated incorrectly (mostly involving the colors of the characters). What follows is as complete a list of differences between the original and Rhino episodes as was possible for me to make. The differences are in chronological order for each episode. "More Than Meets The Eye Part 1" No Differences "More Than Meets The Eye Part 2" Original-Last episode recap had a blue tractor beam coming from Decepticon Rhino-episode recap has purple beams (since footage was taken from actual "More Than Meets The Eye Part 3" Original-episode recap showed the last two digits more pronounced on beam from the Decepticon ship Rhino-episode recap shows all the digits at equal brightness and a purple "Transport To Oblivion" No differences "Roll For It" No differences "Divide And Conquer" Original-Shockwave's weird space bridge coordinates symbol appears on screen Rhino-The symbol appears over the space bridge receiver background Shockwave Original-In the battle near the space bridge, the central Reflector robot's Rhino-Reflector's lens just opens, with no initial flash Original-When Megatron orders the Decepticons to return to base for further Rhino-Starscream is colored like Thundercracker in this sequence. "Fire In The Sky" Original-Snow falls downwards in opening scene Rhino-Snow falls upwards Original-Camera zooms out from Optimus watching Teletraan's monitor Rhino-Camera remains static in this scene Original-When Starscream explains to Skyfire that they are on Earth, Skyfire Rhino-Skyfire has a red Decepticon symbol Original-When Skyfire says "Hail Cybertron", his cockpit is colored Rhino-His cockpit is white, and he has no symbol Original-When Skyfire says "Destruction", his Decepticon symbol is purple Rhino-His Decepticon symbol is red Original-When Skyfire is on patrol (just before he sees the Autobots), his Rhino-His symbol is red Original-Just after Skyfire exclaims "Autobots!", you can make out the Rhino-There is no symbol Original-When Skyfire says "You must be destroyed!" and "Destruction to all Rhino-It is red Original-When Skyfire blasts the ice, his symbol is purple Rhino-It is red Original-When Skyfire picks up Spike and Sparkplug and talks to them, he has Rhino-He has a red incomplete Decepticon symbol (except for the closeup shot Original-When Skyfire stands up to take Spike and Sparkplug to Megatron, he Rhino-The symbol is red Original-Just after Hound says "Come on, guys" in the tunnel, Bumblebee Rhino-The background and cels were not aligned properly, showing Bumblebee Original-When Prime reverses up the tunnel, his trailer appears out of Rhino-His trailer doesn't appear and he still drives off (Note: Looking at Original-When Prime and the Autobots drive up to the now-freed Spike and Rhino-His trailer is missing Original-When Starscream blasts Skyfire, you can see his null ray Rhino-The null ray is missing Original-When Skyfire is shown to be relieved that Hound and the others are Rhino-It is red Original-When Ratchet is repairing Skyfire, his Decepticon symbol is purple Rhino-It is red Original-In the very last scene, the Autobots surround the glowing circles Rhino-Cliffjumper is standing in-between the last two circles "S.O.S. Dinobots" Original-Ironhide's chest scanner shows a detailed image of a dinosaur skull Rhino-Ironhide's scanner shows the skull, but with no rock detail around it Original-Dinobots shoot lasers from theirs heads to clear up some rocks, Rhino-Dinobots don't shoot lasers from their heads, the rocks glow and don't Original-When the Autobots arrive at the dam, Bluestreak transforms from Rhino-Bluestreak transforms from robot to vehicle Original-When Starscream shoots the generators at the dam, the beam comes Rhino-The beam comes from mid-air to the left of Starscream Original-When Megatron lands at the dam, there is nothing in front of him Rhino-There is a rainbow in front of Megatron (Note: In the G1 Panini album, "Fire On The Mountain" Original-In the opening scene, there is an overhead shot with Trailbreaker Rhino-He is colored completely red (like Ironhide) Original-When Skywarp leaves Starscream & Thundercracker, calling Starscream Rhino-Skywarp is colored like Thundercracker Original-When Thundercracker and Starscream place the deactivated Skyfire Rhino-Skyfire is colored like Skywarp Original-In the following shot, Starscream(later joined by Megatron) is Rhino-He is colored like Thundercracker "War Of The Dinobots" Original-When the Dinobots talk of usurping Prime, the camera cuts to Rhino-Sludge's mouth moves to Slag's words first, and then he speaks Original-When Starscream warns Megatron that Grimlock will never betray Rhino-He is colored like Thundercracker Original-When Grimlock moves towards Megatron and Starscream, saying "Bad Rhino-Starscream in colored like Thundercracker "The Ultimate Doom Part 1" Original-The Maharaja's computer monitor had (hard to read) glowing text on Rhino-The screen shows easy to read white text over a black background Original-When Bumblebee talks to Wheeljack after trying to console Spike Rhino-When Wheeljack speaks, his "side-lights" don't light up Original-Hound's hologram of Prowl's plan is shown with dark lines over a Rhino-The hologram shows white outlines over a translucent yellow background Original-In the scene where Megatron talks to Shockwave over the viewscreen, Rhino-In the opening of this scene, Megatron is briefly above the ground and Original-When Starscream and the other jets are (very easily) fooled by Rhino-Starscream is colored like Skywarp, and Skywarp is colored like Original-When Starscream climbs back into Decepticon Headquarters after Rhino-He seems to be bone dry (in the shot from his front) Original-When Dr. Archeville watches Sparkplug on the monitor and tells him Rhino-His mouth just remains open Original-Just after Spike shoves the spanner into Teletraan's circuits, Rhino-The sparks are still there, but they are much less intense "The Ultimate Doom Part 2" No differences "The Ultimate Doom Part 3" Original-Shockwave's light pulses when he shouts after Spike, and just Rhino-His light still pulses, but it looks like in the film Rhino had, his picture quality. Original-Just after the above sequence of events, Shockwave says "Take the Rhino-His light doesn't pulse (looks like they missed overlaying this bit) Original-When Wheeljack talks to Spike just after Skyfire shoots Shockwave, Rhino-Just the front-middle part lights up when he speaks (I think this is Original-Just after Spike is cover with the glow from Shockwave's chest, you". His light pulses normally when he says this. Rhino-When Shockwave walks over to Spike, the image is covered with the same Original-When Shockwave stands over Sparkplug, holding Spike, he speaks and Rhino-His light doesn't pulse (another missed overlay opportunity by Rhino) Original-When Mirage make himself visible inside the starship, the slave to Rhino-This scene was reconstructed by Rhino themselves. In the new version "Countdown To Extinction" No differences "A Plague Of Insecticons" Original-When Bumblebee and Spike board Skyfire, the doors close behind them Rhino-When the doors close, Bumblebee and Spike can still be seen over the Original-In the sequence where Wheeljack flies up to assist Skyfire and is Rhino-Wheeljack's lights don't light up Original-When Shrapnel shoots his control beams down to Sunstreaker and Rhino-The beams are there, but Shrapnel isn't Original-When Shrapnel is initially struck by lightening, there are Rhino-There is a clear blue sky behind him, and his mouth movements are Original-Just after Wheeljack shoots Shrapnel, Shrapnel flies off to avoid Rhino-He is standing in front of a different part of the refinery that has a Original-There are rainclouds above the Insecticon clones as they shoot at Rhino-The sky is clear blue above them "The Heavy Metal War" Original-When Bonecrusher, Long Haul and Mixmaster transform for the first Rhino-The camera doesn't pan up, so after they transform, the image is of Original-When Long Haul transforms back to vehicle mode, the stolen Rhino-The components are still there, but they are an overlay added by Rhino Original-Hook and Scavenger can be seen working on Scrapper's device as the Rhino-The camera is already on Starscream and Megatron for the duration of Original-In the following close up shot of Megatron and Starscream, they are Rhino-Starscream is colored like Skywarp Original-When Cliffjumper shoots his glass gas at Megatron, he is correctly Rhino-He is yellow, like Bumblebee Original-After Optimus orders the Autobots to stop firing at Megatron, Rhino-After Optimus orders the Autobots to stop firing at Megatron, mirrored Original-When Cliffjumper and Wheeljack (on either side of Optimus) talk to Rhino-Rhino attempted to recreate this scene themselves, with the camera Original-The light that comes from the power transferer's furnace is quite Rhino-The light is dull, being merely drawn in and not yet having been Original-The camera pans down Starscream's body when he opens his cockpit to Rhino-There is a different shot here, with Starscream being further away Original-When the Constructicons transform inside the Decepticon base to Rhino-Scrapper's eyes don't glow, and the Constructicons transform over an Original-When Trailbreaker transforms from robot to vehicle, the correct Rhino-He transforms over an exterior background Original-When Optimus Prime leads the Autobots out of the Ark, there are no Rhino-Optimus' left headlight flickers between red and white breifly as he Original-After arriving at the battleground, Ironhide can be seen Rhino-He transforms from robot to vehicle Original-When Megatron teleports to avoid the rock Optimus throws at him, he Rhino-Megatron glows, but is still there afterwards, with the rock going Original-Skywarp is colored correctly when he comments on Megatron's Rhino-He is colored like Starscream, whilst sitting next to Starscream Original-After Meagtron floats down to the ground during the battle, he Rhino-The blast isn't there, but Prime's right side still smokes from the Original-Just before Megatron blasts Prime for the last time, there is a Rhino-Chip and the others are still in this shot, but the animation is Original-When Megatron blasts Prime at the end of their battle, the camera Rhino-The camera pans across a lot more slowly, and just before Prime is front in his chest (taken from earlier in the battle) Original-There is a close-up shot of Spike remarking that Optimus is barely Rhino-The animation here is different, as Spike is again drawn off model Original-As Mixmaster begins to shoot his acids at the cavern ceiling, the Rhino-The camera zooms up to him, but not enough to fit in with the Original-When the Constructicons stand in front of Teletraan's "glowing Rhino-The camera doesn't zoom into the stick due to this shot being a Original-When the Dinobots initially shoot at the Constructicons, there are Rhino-For one brief second, there is a missing laser blast, and underneath, Original-When the Constructicons retreat backwards through the hole in the Rhino-Part of the right wall is missing, showing the incomplete animation of Original-When Chip notices that something was wrong with the battle, he and Rhino-The animation is different here, with no zoom on Chip, and both Chip Original-Sludge shoots lasers from his eyes at the Constructicons Rhino-No lasers can be seen It seems that Rhino's original intention was to use as much of the film Jon You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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