> Most Tarot decks consist of 78 cards: 22 Major Arcana, and 56 Minor > Arcana cards. The Minor Arcana consist of four "suits", just like a > deck of regular playing cards. > The four suits are, Pentacles or Coins, which deal with work/money/ > success issues, the Wands, or Staffs, which deal with more spiritual > issues, the Cups, which deal with emotional issues, and the Swords, > which some see as representing negative experiences and loss. If you > want more of an explanation of these cards, then check out a Crash > Course in Tarot #1. > When starting out, I highly recommend making your life easy, and > getting the person to ask you a question out loud. Both parties should > focus on the question while you shuffle the cards. As you get more > experienced or confident with the cards, you won't care if they ask a > question, but repeating the questioner's question out loud yourself > does seem to assist the divination process. > Shuffle the cards until the person you are reading for feels it is > "right" to stop or until you feel it is right to "stop". After you are > done cutting, you need to cut the deck. Most readers divide the deck > into three piles. At this point you can either have the person you are > reading for pick which pile to pick up as the top of the deck, or you > can pick them up in an order that feels right to you. Another option > is to fan the cards out face down, and have the person you are reading > for pick out the cards they want you to read. Then lay them out in the > order they are suppose to appear for the spread....
So buying a deck of tarot cards is going to turn you into someone who can perceive things not visible to the physical senses?
Bullshit. What a complete waste of time. Such abilities can be developed, but they have nothing to do with anything physical. And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard their development.
Just as important is the elitism cultivated by these practices. The enlightened idea is to help people develop their own magickal/psychic abilities, not pretend that you have some special abilities they don't have so you can charge them money for (allegedly) using them. All the 'psychic' is doing, if they are doing anything but running a scam or deluding themselves and others, is reading the mind of their client. They should be teaching the clients to read their own minds.
Sid
-- Sidney Lambe Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > So buying a deck of tarot cards is going to turn you into someone > who can perceive things not visible to the physical senses? > [...] > All the 'psychic' is doing, if they are doing anything but > running a scam or deluding themselves and others, is > reading the mind of their client.
Such willful ignorance, Sidney, shows you have never studied any such system, whether Tarot or the plain card-reading (52- card deck) or the runes or the coins or yarrow-sticks of I Ching. None of these involve, require, or develop mind-reading. What they do involve is reading the pattern of a story, off the pages spread out in front of you. It is very literally a reading skill.
On May 4, 10:09 pm, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves > or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with > it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard > their development.
You know, Sid, I think you are onto something here. Care to expand on that a little?
> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick? Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ... untouchable? Yes, I think so.
On 4 Mai, 21:51, salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 10:09 pm, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves > > or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with > > it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard > > their development.
> You know, Sid, I think you are onto something here. Care to expand on > that a little?
> > Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
> Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick? > Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ... > untouchable? Yes, I think so.
or this arcane tale of the unforlonrn traveller, a story which Brother Blue Resonant Human who posts here on occasion seems to plaigiarise / tribute as You Will in his postings:
> On 4 Mai, 21:51, salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On May 4, 10:09=A0pm, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> > And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves >> > or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with >> > it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard >> > their development.
>> You know, Sid, I think you are onto something here. Care to expand on >> that a little?
>> > Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
>> Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick? >> Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ... >> untouchable? Yes, I think so.
> check out my Magicians Surgical Workshop: archangels, healing, > personal Tarot card and some definitions of 3 common cards. Plus some > Occult oil paintings, > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/pulp/headshop.html
Or stick your thumb up your ass and twirl on it. This will be just as useful.
[delete]
Sid
-- Sidney Lambe Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 4, 10:09=A0pm, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves >> or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with >> it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard >> their development.
> You know, Sid, I think you are onto something here. Care to expand on > that a little?
Howdy salsufy. When you are perceiving things with other than the physical senses, you are using what could be called the inner senses. These belong to the inner self and the physical senses are 'translations' of a small part of what they perceive.
The inner senses exist completely independently of physical reality. Hallucinogens give you scattered and usually useless and often injurious direct experiences with them.
'Meditation' is the way to approach learning to use them. Nothing is required here but your own consciousness and there isn't any physical object that has anything to do with using them.
>> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
> Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick? > Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ... > untouchable? Yes, I think so.
I would tend to agree. Wiccans, and all the 'neo-pagans' are role-players. They can't do any magick at all. They just pretend they can. I call this the "Neo-Pagan Pact", which goes: "I will pretend you are a real magician if you will pretend I am".
Sid
-- Sidney Lambe Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
> the unmenschionable elk hound <anacondaco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 4 Mai, 21:51, salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On May 4, 10:09=A0pm, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> > And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves > >> > or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with > >> > it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard > >> > their development.
> >> You know, Sid, I think you are onto something here. Care to expand on > >> that a little?
> >> > Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
> >> Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick? > >> Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ... > >> untouchable? Yes, I think so.
> > check out my Magicians Surgical Workshop: archangels, healing, > > personal Tarot card and some definitions of 3 common cards. Plus some > > Occult oil paintings, > >http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/pulp/headshop.html
> Or stick your thumb up your ass and twirl on it. This will be just > as useful.
they are from a website from when i was doing that all the time and garnering mystical knowledge with a thumb up my ass and twirling on it.
i think interpreting Tarot is very much a 1 person reading to oneself process. you cannot 'read' the future or gain powers like ESP from interpreting for others. Its like reading a book or creating art, so i made my own tarot Wounded Negro and Waterbearer and The Allah (Carrion BirD) and interpreted 3 traditional ones. Completely without any knowledge of classical or crowleys Tarot - it was hit or miss and i guess it was a "miss" as far as Sid Lambe is concerned. After all i AM AN APPRENTICE magician to. Now,,,,, TWIIIIIIIIRL! Here is a website on Hawk-Wind: enjoy new knowledge http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html
Steve Pond's ICU site... cute, Joe. I have emailed back and forth with both Steve Pond and Trev Thoms of ICU / in fact enjoying their company and music on the various Hawkwind related email lists in existence since 1996. Elkie
Nik Turner's "Forbidden Planet" - the lyrics are all about getting high on crystals and general druidry. Real mystical! Now to dig out those fantastic 1978 Sphynx demos!
> Nik Turner's "Forbidden Planet" - the lyrics are all about getting > high on crystals and general druidry. Real mystical! Now to dig out > those fantastic 1978 Sphynx demos!
> > Nik Turner's "Forbidden Planet" - tekstene er alle om ċ fċ > > Hĝyt pċ krystaller og generell druidry. Real mystisk! Nċ grave ut > > Disse fantastiske 1978 Sphynx demoer!
> > Mest Tarot kortstokker bestċr av 78 kort: 22 Major Arcana, og 56 mindre > > Arcana kort. The Minor Arcana bestċr av fire "dress", akkurat som en > > Kortstokk med vanlige spillkort. > > De fire dresser er, Pentacles eller mynter, som omhandler arbeid / penger / > > Suksess saker, det Wands eller Staffs, som omhandler mer ċndelig > > Spĝrsmċl, CUPS, som omhandler fĝlelsesmessige problemer, og sverd, > > Som noen ser pċ som representerer negative erfaringer og tap. Hvis du > > Ĝnsker mer av en forklaring pċ disse kortene, sċ sjekk ut et Crash > > Kurs i Tarot # 1. > > Nċr du starter opp, jeg anbefaler ċ gjĝre livet enkelt og > > Fċr personen til ċ spĝrre om noe hĝyt. Begge parter bĝr > > Fokus pċ spĝrsmċlet mens du shuffle kortene. Som du fċr mer > > Opplevd eller komfortabel med kort, vil du ikke vare hvis de spĝr en > > Spĝrsmċl, men gjenta questioner spĝrretime hĝyt selv > > Gir inntrykk av ċ bistċ Divinasjon prosessen. > > Shuffle kortene til den personen du leser for fĝler det er > > "Rett" til ċ stoppe eller til du fĝler det er riktig ċ "stoppe". Nċr du er > > Gjort kutte, mċ du klippe dekk. De fleste leserne dele dekk > > Inn i tre hauger. Pċ dette punktet kan du enten har personen du > > Lesing for hakke som haug ċ plukke opp som toppen av dekk, eller du > > Kan plukke dem opp i en rekkefĝlge som fĝles riktig for deg. Et annet alternativ > > Er ċ vifte kortene ut med billedsiden ned, og personen du leser > > For ċ plukke ut de kortene de ĝnsker du ċ lese. Deretter legger dem ut i > eget sinn.
> Sid
> -- > Sidney Lambe > Wiccan Priest og lĉrling magikerhttp://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb > usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
Norsk! Speak Norsk! Syd Snakker Norsk! med google er ALT MULIG!
salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 5, 12:08=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share > with me.
I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on the internet or the local public forest.
>> Wiccan Priest
> I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the > head of a Coven?
No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the study and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual itself.
In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive on. We call our real priests "clergy".
Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm" and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
A red-letter day for my calendar: Sidney said A True Thing!
> but what I know I actually _know_.
Oh, well. One step forward, one step back.
Especially given the blithe ignorance in his first post above.
> I speak from experience, not from google searches.
But Sidney, what Tarot readings have you yourself done? You dismiss the whole idea as a "complete waste of time". So your "experience" in the subject consists of... what?
> I have a teacher who can actually do magick,
That's nice.
For your teacher.
It says nothing whatsoever for you.
> not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on > the internet or the local public forest.
You keep using that prefix "psuedo-", Sidney.
And you keep getting reminded that it's "pseudo-".
And you keep ignoring the correction, because whatever other people have to say to you, you don't know, and you don't care, and it couldn't possibly matter to you.
And the cumulative outcome is that you seem incorrigibly ignorant, incurably ignorant, so set in your mistakes that dynamite couldn't dislodge you from them. Congratulations. I can't imagine a worse curse to impose upon any human being.
Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > I have a teacher who can actually do magick... > I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. > I just did the study and preparations for a > self-initiation ritual and then the ritual itself.
> Steve Pond's ICU site... cute, Joe. I have emailed back and forth with > both Steve Pond and Trev Thoms of ICU / in fact enjoying their company > and music on the various Hawkwind related email lists in existence > since 1996. Elkie
> salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On May 5, 12:08=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share > > with me.
> I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from > experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can > actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on > the internet or the local public forest.
> >> Wiccan Priest
> > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the > > head of a Coven?
> No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the study > and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual > itself.
> In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of > the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive > on. We call our real priests "clergy".
Erm, where to start?
Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting here. What news there has been recently has been sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
I'm a little uncertain quite what it has to do with willowcraft myself, from which one can manufacture all manner of useful objects--baskets for plants or pets, chairs and sofas, and also cricket bats.
Perhaps because of the occulted cultures of gang-involvement and alpha-rivalry in such dens of incarcertation, yea, even amongst the women as anyone who watched the Australian Network 7 long-running drama "Prisoner, Cell Block H" will know, there is a very real risk that in the hands of "spades-types" - as the Dee taxonomy would have it - "readings" for spiritual development may have an undercurrent of informal punishment or other reprisals.
And as gaming isn't the first pursuit of many of the observant celebrants at, say, Stonehenge on Solstice morn, this firmly marks out the tarot as having official recognition as a textbook of teachings, at least, since AE Waite and others grafted Masonic and Golden Dawn symbology and, to a greater or lesser extent, associated morals into the deck. At least as far as the UK Prison Sector goes.
What's interesting is that, if I recall correctly, Thelema - for which the Thoth Tarot was designed as a textbook - doesn't figure in the official version but for some reason Wicca does.
Quite where Vodoun and suchlike fall is anyone's guess. And similarly, AE Waite, I understand, was of the school of thought which considered the divinatory uses of the tarot to be low and even "mean" ends, so this means that inducted fraudsters in Lodges serving sentences in "White Collar", or even Open, prisons could also cite divination as an acceptable (if frowned upon) use for the cards.
Where divination is concerned, and certainly, where the number of posessions and personal effects prisoners are likely to carry with them and have access to is concerned, any psychometrist will tell you that you're better off fashioning a pendulum from a small personal item to ask questions of. And because the thread is a fine thing that should be there purely to join the item with the diviner (or questioner) there's really very little chance of it being used as a torniquet, ligature or garotte in practice.
Though even this, of course, would not preclude an insecure, pessimistic or traumatised prisoner electing for a punishment simply because they might feel they may have done something wrong, so probably best not to encourage it.
I should have thought this use of local materials and personal effects was rather more "Wicca" than any tarot deck could be and, after all, a set of runes or ogham characters can easily be drawn onto bits of paper or card. But I don't know.
Obviously, beliefs have to be respected by the authorities up to a certain point, and if people believe that tarot is a teaching tool honed to the natural vibrations and holistic harmony Wiccans tend to espouse, in my experience, then obviously this should be, and is being, respected.
I was just a bit surprised as paper is an Egyptian invention which maybe the Romans brought to Britain or it may have got here later (my history is sketchy on some topics--though I understood that the Romans, as did the Greeks before them, had a tendency to prefer clay and wax pads which were used with a stylus) I should certainly be astonished to find it's part of the Wiccan religion as it was practised originally.
Then again, what is paper and what is card but abstracted trees?
Anyway, next time you're filled with a burning desire to tell the world what teachers of religion, whether overt or occulted, should be doing instead then please don't hesitate to tell them, rather than us here on alt.tarot
> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll > who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm" > and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect > that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who > thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't > hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
G Daeb <sipston_...@my-deja.com> wrote: > On May 5, 1:25=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On May 5, 12:08=3DA0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share >> > with me.
>> I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from >> experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can >> actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on >> the internet or the local public forest.
>> >> Wiccan Priest
>> > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the >> > head of a Coven?
>> No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the stud= > y >> and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual >> itself.
>> In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of >> the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive >> on. We call our real priests "clergy".
> Erm, where to start?
> Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting > here.
I don't read garbage. And since tarot is superstitious nonsense the FAQ is garbage.
> What news there has been recently has been > sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one > of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow > inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
You wanted to know where to start. I suggest you begin by pulling your head out of your ass and getting some oxygen to your brain.
I didn't say anything anything about the UK Prison sector or prisons of any kind.
>> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll >> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm" >> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect >> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who >> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't >> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
G Daeb wrote: > On May 5, 1:25 am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 5, 12:08=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share > > > with me.
> > I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from > > experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can > > actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on > > the internet or the local public forest.
> > >> Wiccan Priest
> > > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the > > > head of a Coven?
> > No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the study > > and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual > > itself.
> > In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of > > the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive > > on. We call our real priests "clergy".
> Erm, where to start?
> Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting > here. What news there has been recently has been > sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one > of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow > inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
> I'm a little uncertain quite what it has to do with > willowcraft myself, from which one can manufacture > all manner of useful objects--baskets for plants or > pets, chairs and sofas, and also cricket bats.
> Perhaps because of the occulted cultures of > gang-involvement and alpha-rivalry in such dens > of incarcertation, yea, even amongst the women > as anyone who watched the Australian Network > 7 long-running drama "Prisoner, Cell Block H" > will know, there is a very real risk that in the hands > of "spades-types" - as the Dee taxonomy would > have it - "readings" for spiritual development may > have an undercurrent of informal punishment or > other reprisals.
> And as gaming isn't the first pursuit of many of > the observant celebrants at, say, Stonehenge > on Solstice morn, this firmly marks out the tarot > as having official recognition as a textbook of > teachings, at least, since AE Waite and others > grafted Masonic and Golden Dawn symbology > and, to a greater or lesser extent, associated > morals into the deck. At least as far as the UK > Prison Sector goes.
> What's interesting is that, if I recall correctly, > Thelema - for which the Thoth Tarot was designed > as a textbook - doesn't figure in the official version > but for some reason Wicca does.
> Quite where Vodoun and suchlike fall is anyone's > guess. And similarly, AE Waite, I understand, was > of the school of thought which considered the > divinatory uses of the tarot to be low and even > "mean" ends, so this means that inducted > fraudsters in Lodges serving sentences in "White > Collar", or even Open, prisons could also cite > divination as an acceptable (if frowned upon) use > for the cards.
> Where divination is concerned, and certainly, > where the number of posessions and personal > effects prisoners are likely to carry with them > and have access to is concerned, any psychometrist > will tell you that you're better off fashioning a > pendulum from a small personal item to ask > questions of. And because the thread is a fine > thing that should be there purely to join the > item with the diviner (or questioner) there's > really very little chance of it being used as a > torniquet, ligature or garotte in practice.
> Though even this, of course, would not preclude > an insecure, pessimistic or traumatised prisoner > electing for a punishment simply because they > might feel they may have done something wrong, > so probably best not to encourage it.
> I should have thought this use of local materials > and personal effects was rather more "Wicca" > than any tarot deck could be and, after all, a > set of runes or ogham characters can easily be > drawn onto bits of paper or card. But I don't know.
> Obviously, beliefs have to be respected by the > authorities up to a certain point, and if people > believe that tarot is a teaching tool honed to the > natural vibrations and holistic harmony Wiccans > tend to espouse, in my experience, then obviously > this should be, and is being, respected.
> I was just a bit surprised as paper is an Egyptian > invention which maybe the Romans brought to > Britain
> G Daeb <sipston_...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > On May 5, 1:25=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On May 5, 12:08=3DA0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share > >> > with me.
> >> I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from > >> experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can > >> actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on > >> the internet or the local public forest.
> >> >> Wiccan Priest
> >> > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the > >> > head of a Coven?
> >> No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the stud= > > y > >> and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual > >> itself.
> >> In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of > >> the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive > >> on. We call our real priests "clergy".
> > Erm, where to start?
> > Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting > > here.
> I don't read garbage. And since tarot is superstitious > nonsense the FAQ is garbage.
> > What news there has been recently has been > > sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one > > of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow > > inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
> You wanted to know where to start. I suggest you begin > by pulling your head out of your ass and getting some > oxygen to your brain.
> I didn't say anything anything about the UK Prison sector > or prisons of any kind.
> [delete more irrational blathering]
> >> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll > >> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm" > >> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect > >> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who > >> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't > >> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
> Why is it that ignorant motormouths are always the ones who post > those useless and impotent copyright notices on their shit posts?
Go on then. Dartmoor? Exmoor? Bodmin Moor?
Explain how wicca works. It's not like it did in any of them places.
So, please, go away and learn about animal and land husbandry, otherwise, SHUT UP.
you may find the following worth remembering: if your post isn't relevant, and to the topic of tarot it isn't, then kindly don't bother us here with your infantile vendettae.
I did at least try to offer some new information on the topic of where Wiccaa crosses over with Tarot which wouldn't have been widely reported outside of the uk.
You just came blundering in with no clue as to who is into what, what the tarot has been about at many different points in history, and then tried to lecture us on our religious observance.
Next time you want to talk about "shit posts" may I recommend a looking glass.
> G Daeb <sipston_...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > On May 5, 1:25=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On May 5, 12:08=3DA0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share > >> > with me.
> >> I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from > >> experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can > >> actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on > >> the internet or the local public forest.
> >> >> Wiccan Priest
> >> > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the > >> > head of a Coven?
> >> No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some.
does that translate into "a wanker" in vernacular English, by any chance?
> >> In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of > >> the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive > >> on. We call our real priests "clergy".
> > Erm, where to start?
> > Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting > > here.
> I don't read garbage. And since tarot is superstitious > nonsense the FAQ is garbage.
Erm? Ah! I see. A clueless fucktard! Stick with the other groups you seem to think are full of gullible tosspots. alt.tarot tends not be. They've all gone to private propietary fora.
> > What news there has been recently has been > > sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one > > of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow > > inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
> You wanted to know where to start. I suggest you begin > by pulling your head out of your ass and getting some > oxygen to your brain.
No, that was a rhetorical question aimed at you.
I found Dartmoor, Exmoor and Bodmin Moor gave fair food for thought, and a lot of the traditional place names here also do cast some light on this subject it's fallen to your messianic self to illuminate us all on.
> I didn't say anything anything about the UK Prison sector > or prisons of any kind.
No, that counts as "news", i.e., original information.
Unless of course "another lunatic believes he knows it all" (which was the main thrust of your post) counts as "news" these days.
> >> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll > >> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm" > >> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect > >> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who > >> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't > >> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
> No. Cross-posting is an important feature of the usenet. > That's why it is built into the NNTP protocol.
> Now tell us, Einstein, why you crossposted if you think > it so rude.
By the calibre of the dross which followed your somewhat egocentric textual diarrhoea I thought perhaps your coteria of earger neophytes may not be familiar with the medium.
G Daeb wrote: > Anyway, next time you're filled with a burning > desire to tell the world what teachers of religion, > whether overt or occulted, should be doing instead > then please don't hesitate to tell them, rather than > us here on alt.tarot
Nicely expressed, however you write like a long time contributor or at least reader of alt.tarot, and i, fallible memory and all, don't recall your nom de net? Perhaps you have another i would be more familiar with?
Either way, any traffic here to this poor, old, neglected news group is better than none. Of course this "Sid's" post are the epistolary equivalent of none, in that he repeats the same theme over and over and over and over & etc.......again and again and again and again & etc. i have him blocked here so only saw his intrusion into this space via your response to him, which, if you don't mind my telling you, is IMO pointless, to argue with him or even lecture him is, to me, a sign of, at the best, naivety, at the worst stupidity, and is also an insult to the intelligence of even the moderately sane amongst us:)
> Oh, and cross-posting is rude too. Hi all! > G DAEB > COPYRIGHT (C) 2009 SIPSTO
G Daeb wrote: > On Jun 18, 5:05 am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > G Daeb <sipston_...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > On May 5, 1:25=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > >> salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > On May 5, 12:08=3DA0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > >> > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share > > >> > with me.
> > >> I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from > > >> experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can > > >> actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on > > >> the internet or the local public forest.
> > >> >> Wiccan Priest
> > >> > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the > > >> > head of a Coven?
> > >> No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the stud= > > > y > > >> and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual > > >> itself.
> > >> In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of > > >> the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive > > >> on. We call our real priests "clergy".
> > > Erm, where to start?
> > > Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting > > > here.
> > I don't read garbage. And since tarot is superstitious > > nonsense the FAQ is garbage.
> > > What news there has been recently has been > > > sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one > > > of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow > > > inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
> > You wanted to know where to start. I suggest you begin > > by pulling your head out of your ass and getting some > > oxygen to your brain.
> > I didn't say anything anything about the UK Prison sector > > or prisons of any kind.
> > [delete more irrational blathering]
> > >> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll > > >> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm" > > >> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect > > >> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who > > >> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't > > >> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
> > Why is it that ignorant motormouths are always the ones who post > > those useless and impotent copyright notices on their shit posts?
> Go on then. Dartmoor? Exmoor? Bodmin Moor?
> Explain how wicca works. It's not like it did in any > of them places.
> So, please, go away and learn about animal and > land husbandry, otherwise, SHUT UP.
> you may find the following worth remembering: > if your post isn't relevant, and to the topic of tarot > it isn't, then kindly don't bother us here with your > infantile vendettae.
> I did at least try to offer some new information on > the topic of where Wiccaa crosses over with Tarot > which wouldn't have been widely reported outside > of the uk.
> You just came blundering in with no clue as to who > is into what, what the tarot has been about at many > different points in history, and then tried to lecture > us on our religious observance.
> Next time you want to talk about "shit posts" may > I recommend a looking glass.
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