On 30 Oct 2009 23:51:54 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> wrote: >> Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >I saw my diabetician today. When he saw the spate of 40's, 50's and >> >60's, he got very serious with me. Told me that I was starving my brain >> >and that I had to eat more carbs.
>> Same carbs, fewer herbs, less alcohol would equal fewer lows and no >> more highs than you're getting now.
>Thanks, Nicky. As long as my PP BG doesn't go over 140, I'll continue to >enjoy some starchy carbs with dinner. I only take herbs in the morning, >when my FBG is over 100.
Mmmm - it's the alcohol, turning off your liver's ability to trickle carbs into your system, that's worrying me, in combo with the herbs.
> Michael wrote: > I have decided >> to travel to another city in order to see an endo. This will be a long >> trip. I am doing this because something else is wrong. The metformin >> is doing absolutely zero. I can still effect the BG numbers by diet >> and exercise. It is just that whatever is my problem, and according to >> Susan it is probably not insulin resistance, I must be extremely >> strict with myself in order to maintain normal numbers. Susan, I am >> must mentioning what you said if metformin had no effect.
> Michael, several of us have told you that it takes weeks to months for > benefits of metformin to show up.
> If you see an endo, I hope s/he doesn't laugh you out of the office with > numbers like yours, particularly after such a short time low carbing, > with clear evidence of weight loss.
> I'm not discouraging you from seeing an endo if you have no success over > the next six months or so, just suggesting that, as usual, you're > jumping the gun.
> You haven't been able to exercise yet, you haven't been low carbing that > long, and you're on a ht med known to raise bg.
> Susan
OK,
I will wait. I will continue to chart my FBG. I guess I not that big on patience. My wife has noticed that about me during our last 50 years. It might be too late for me at this stage to learn to be more patient, however I will still try.
> > Michael wrote: > > I have decided > >> to travel to another city in order to see an endo. This will be a long > >> trip. I am doing this because something else is wrong. The metformin > >> is doing absolutely zero. I can still effect the BG numbers by diet > >> and exercise. It is just that whatever is my problem, and according to > >> Susan it is probably not insulin resistance, I must be extremely > >> strict with myself in order to maintain normal numbers. Susan, I am > >> must mentioning what you said if metformin had no effect.
> > Michael, several of us have told you that it takes weeks to months for > > benefits of metformin to show up.
> > If you see an endo, I hope s/he doesn't laugh you out of the office with > > numbers like yours, particularly after such a short time low carbing, > > with clear evidence of weight loss.
> > I'm not discouraging you from seeing an endo if you have no success over > > the next six months or so, just suggesting that, as usual, you're > > jumping the gun.
> > You haven't been able to exercise yet, you haven't been low carbing that > > long, and you're on a ht med known to raise bg.
> > Susan
> OK,
> I will wait. I will continue to chart my FBG. I guess I not that big on > patience. My wife has noticed that about me during our last 50 years. It > might be too late for me at this stage to learn to be more patient, > however I will still try.
Michael, you have choices with diabetes just as you do with life. Your instinct is to go to an endo and I think that is what you should do. Make sure it is one who specializes in diabetes and even if it is for a consultation it will pay huge dividends because the person giving you advice is not some stranger but a qualified professional who will be able to evaluate your particular needs. And there is not an endo I've ever met who would "laugh you out of the office" because you have come to them for advice. You seem to be confused and very concerned right now and you need answers from someone whom you can trust.
One thing to be aware of...if you choose to go to an endo, don't expect them to agree or advise what you read from some in here.
The time is now to see an endo, not six months from now, or a year. By then bad habits will be harder to break and added to that it's just that much longer that you have to suffer without finding something that works for you. You have gotten a lot of conflicting advice from this group, why not talk to someone in person who is qualified to give you the help you need.
"Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > Nick Cramer wrote: > > "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > >> [ . . . ] > >> Mmmm, I love fried rice, unfortunately, I get one heck of a spike.
> > Wok frying pre-cooked rice 'til it's crispy and browning on the bottom > > is soooooo good! My portion control for rice or corn is 2 Tbs. Pasta or > > potatoes, 1/4 cup. YMMV
> LOL! 2 Tbsp of rice is not worth the trouble imo. :-)
You may laugh m'dear, but I find it worth adding to the mix. Jun's bringing me some Gang Panang Gai (Thai Chicken in Panang Curry sauce), which I'll have over brown rice. She made it for the Sri Lankan Buddhist monks and I get my share!
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Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> wrote: > Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> wrote: > >> Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote: > >> >I saw my diabetician today. When he saw the spate of 40's, 50's and > >> >60's, he got very serious with me. Told me that I was starving my > >> >brain and that I had to eat more carbs.
> >> Same carbs, fewer herbs, less alcohol would equal fewer lows and no > >> more highs than you're getting now.
> >Thanks, Nicky. As long as my PP BG doesn't go over 140, I'll continue to > >enjoy some starchy carbs with dinner. I only take herbs in the morning, > >when my FBG is over 100.
> Mmmm - it's the alcohol, turning off your liver's ability to trickle > carbs into your system, that's worrying me, in combo with the herbs.
Thanks, Nicky. The C2H5OH probably won't change. The herbs have. Also, I had a problem with subcuteneous bruising for the last six months or so. I'd been taking 325 mg/day of aspirin for years. My Dr told me to cut back to 82 mg. Three days and the bruising is almost completely gone. I'll drink to that!
Your A1c and BMI are great! Congratulations and keep up the good work. The 'kids' in your dojo should dread freestyle sparring with you! ;-0
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>> I am slowly recovering from the stress of my diagnosis. I have >> decided to travel to another city in order to see an endo. This will >> be a long trip. I am doing this because something else is wrong. The >> metformin is doing absolutely zero. I can still effect the BG >> numbers by diet and exercise. It is just that whatever is my >> problem, and according to Susan it is probably not insulin >> resistance, I must be extremely strict with myself in order to >> maintain normal numbers. Susan, I am must mentioning what you said >> if metformin had no effect.
You haven't been on it for long Michael, it does take a few weeks for most people to show any benefit from Metformin. You also fit the profile for having insulin resistance. The beta blocker could be causing your bumps, ditto not eating enough carbs. As to the beta blocker, why specifically are you on them? I am just concerned about you reducing the dosage of a med that was obviously given to you for a good reason not just for bp lowering (even though you said you discussed this with your doctor).
I would still go to the endo to run things by him/her but you might find you have to stay with the bumps if the dose of beta blocker you are on is life saving. We always have to weigh up the risks. As it is your bg's aren't high enough to be a concern for what you dread most but reducing the beta blocker might have a more immediate catastrophic effect.
Always remember, those of us in here (all of us) are only able to give any poster the benefit of our collective experiences. Even the supplements we talk about in here should be run by your doctor first. I doubt any of us have a shingle hanging on our front door or even a diploma of Naturopathy.
> I would still go to the endo to run things by him/her but you might > find you have to stay with the bumps if the dose of beta blocker you > are on is life saving. We always have to weigh up the risks. As it is > your bg's aren't high enough to be a concern for what you dread most > but reducing the beta blocker might have a more immediate > catastrophic effect.
> Always remember, those of us in here (all of us) are only able to > give any poster the benefit of our collective experiences. Even the > supplements we talk about in here should be run by your doctor first. > I doubt any of us have a shingle hanging on our front door or even a > diploma of Naturopathy.
Yes, I have had conversations with my doctor about beta blockers and how it effects my BG levels. He said something to the effect, the beta blockers are keeping your heart on an even keel. They are very possibly saving your life. Going off beta blockers to get lower BG numbers sounds a little counter-productive. Then he said they can say at my funeral, "to bad he died just when he had great BG numbers".
I am trying to find some sort of balance here. I figure that when I am having orthostatic feinting spells, my blood pressure is simply too low. And yes, I need to see him before my regular appt which is some ways off.
>> I would still go to the endo to run things by him/her but you might >> find you have to stay with the bumps if the dose of beta blocker you >> are on is life saving. We always have to weigh up the risks. As it is >> your bg's aren't high enough to be a concern for what you dread most >> but reducing the beta blocker might have a more immediate >> catastrophic effect.
>> Always remember, those of us in here (all of us) are only able to >> give any poster the benefit of our collective experiences. Even the >> supplements we talk about in here should be run by your doctor first. >> I doubt any of us have a shingle hanging on our front door or even a >> diploma of Naturopathy.
> Yes, I have had conversations with my doctor about beta blockers and how > it effects my BG levels. He said something to the effect, the beta > blockers are keeping your heart on an even keel. They are very possibly > saving your life. Going off beta blockers to get lower BG numbers sounds a > little counter-productive. Then he said they can say at my funeral, "to > bad he died just when he had great BG numbers".
> I am trying to find some sort of balance here. I figure that when I am > having orthostatic feinting spells, my blood pressure is simply too low. > And yes, I need to see him before my regular appt which is some ways off.
I had fainting spells until my nurse told me to drink a glass of water with my medicine. I did like she said, and I have not had any fainting spells since.
Are you taking medicine for ulcers? If not, you probably will be very soon if you don't quit making mountains out of mole hills.
Michael wrote: >> I would still go to the endo to run things by him/her but you might >> find you have to stay with the bumps if the dose of beta blocker you >> are on is life saving. We always have to weigh up the risks. As it is >> your bg's aren't high enough to be a concern for what you dread most >> but reducing the beta blocker might have a more immediate >> catastrophic effect.
>> Always remember, those of us in here (all of us) are only able to >> give any poster the benefit of our collective experiences. Even the >> supplements we talk about in here should be run by your doctor first. >> I doubt any of us have a shingle hanging on our front door or even a >> diploma of Naturopathy.
> Yes, I have had conversations with my doctor about beta blockers and > how it effects my BG levels. He said something to the effect, the beta > blockers are keeping your heart on an even keel. They are very > possibly saving your life. Going off beta blockers to get lower BG > numbers sounds a little counter-productive. Then he said they can say > at my funeral, "to bad he died just when he had great BG numbers".
> I am trying to find some sort of balance here. I figure that when I am > having orthostatic feinting spells, my blood pressure is simply too > low. And yes, I need to see him before my regular appt which is some > ways off.
Have you had tilt board testing lately? Orthostatic fainting can be from other things beside low BP.
Nick Cramer wrote: > Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> wrote: >> Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote: >>> Nicky <ukc802466...@btconnect.com> wrote: >>>> Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote: >>>>> I saw my diabetician today. When he saw the spate of 40's, 50's and >>>>> 60's, he got very serious with me. Told me that I was starving my >>>>> brain and that I had to eat more carbs. >>>> Same carbs, fewer herbs, less alcohol would equal fewer lows and no >>>> more highs than you're getting now. >>> Thanks, Nicky. As long as my PP BG doesn't go over 140, I'll continue to >>> enjoy some starchy carbs with dinner. I only take herbs in the morning, >>> when my FBG is over 100. >> Mmmm - it's the alcohol, turning off your liver's ability to trickle >> carbs into your system, that's worrying me, in combo with the herbs.
> Thanks, Nicky. The C2H5OH probably won't change. The herbs have. Also, I > had a problem with subcuteneous bruising for the last six months or so. I'd > been taking 325 mg/day of aspirin for years. My Dr told me to cut back to > 82 mg. Three days and the bruising is almost completely gone. I'll drink to > that!
> Your A1c and BMI are great! Congratulations and keep up the good work. The > 'kids' in your dojo should dread freestyle sparring with you! ;-0
Nick Cramer wrote: > "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: >> Nick Cramer wrote: >>> "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: >>>> [ . . . ] >>>> Mmmm, I love fried rice, unfortunately, I get one heck of a spike. >>> Wok frying pre-cooked rice 'til it's crispy and browning on the bottom >>> is soooooo good! My portion control for rice or corn is 2 Tbs. Pasta or >>> potatoes, 1/4 cup. YMMV
>> LOL! 2 Tbsp of rice is not worth the trouble imo. :-)
> You may laugh m'dear, but I find it worth adding to the mix. Jun's bringing > me some Gang Panang Gai (Thai Chicken in Panang Curry sauce), which I'll > have over brown rice. She made it for the Sri Lankan Buddhist monks and I > get my share!
If I had someone in my family who was cooking rice for someone else, I might have a bite. :-)
>> I would still go to the endo to run things by him/her but you might >> find you have to stay with the bumps if the dose of beta blocker you >> are on is life saving. We always have to weigh up the risks. As it is >> your bg's aren't high enough to be a concern for what you dread most >> but reducing the beta blocker might have a more immediate >> catastrophic effect.
>> Always remember, those of us in here (all of us) are only able to >> give any poster the benefit of our collective experiences. Even the >> supplements we talk about in here should be run by your doctor first. >> I doubt any of us have a shingle hanging on our front door or even a >> diploma of Naturopathy.
> Yes, I have had conversations with my doctor about beta blockers and how > it effects my BG levels. He said something to the effect, the beta > blockers are keeping your heart on an even keel. They are very possibly > saving your life. Going off beta blockers to get lower BG numbers sounds > a little counter-productive. Then he said they can say at my funeral, > "to bad he died just when he had great BG numbers".
> I am trying to find some sort of balance here. I figure that when I am > having orthostatic feinting spells, my blood pressure is simply too low. > And yes, I need to see him before my regular appt which is some ways off.
> Michael
As you lose weight that, it may indeed cause a natural lowering of your bp. So your fainting spells may be related. That said, if you're having them only upon standing, it may mean that your body just doesn't compensate as fast as it should. In other words, your resting bp may not be unusually low. Your doctor should be able to check that to tell if it's one or the other or both.
> Nick Cramer wrote: > > "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > >> Nick Cramer wrote: > >>> "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> [ . . . ] > >>>> Mmmm, I love fried rice, unfortunately, I get one heck of a spike. > >>> Wok frying pre-cooked rice 'til it's crispy and browning on the bottom > >>> is soooooo good! My portion control for rice or corn is 2 Tbs. Pasta or > >>> potatoes, 1/4 cup. YMMV
> >> LOL! 2 Tbsp of rice is not worth the trouble imo. :-)
> > You may laugh m'dear, but I find it worth adding to the mix. Jun's bringing > > me some Gang Panang Gai (Thai Chicken in Panang Curry sauce), which I'll > > have over brown rice. She made it for the Sri Lankan Buddhist monks and I > > get my share!
> If I had someone in my family who was cooking rice for someone else, I > might have a bite. :-)
Pretty much. It's not worth cooking up a batch of rice or pasta or oatmeal if all you can eat in a serving is about a tablespoon. But, if I'm at a hotel with a buffet breakfast, I'll definitely take a spoonful of oatmeal with my bacon and eggs.
> Lucky monks!
Absolutely.
-- "[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly. This, apparently, upsets the fools." ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest
>>> I would still go to the endo to run things by him/her but you might >>> find you have to stay with the bumps if the dose of beta blocker you >>> are on is life saving. We always have to weigh up the risks. As it is >>> your bg's aren't high enough to be a concern for what you dread most >>> but reducing the beta blocker might have a more immediate >>> catastrophic effect.
>>> Always remember, those of us in here (all of us) are only able to >>> give any poster the benefit of our collective experiences. Even the >>> supplements we talk about in here should be run by your doctor first. >>> I doubt any of us have a shingle hanging on our front door or even a >>> diploma of Naturopathy.
>> Yes, I have had conversations with my doctor about beta blockers and >> how it effects my BG levels. He said something to the effect, the beta >> blockers are keeping your heart on an even keel. They are very >> possibly saving your life. Going off beta blockers to get lower BG >> numbers sounds a little counter-productive. Then he said they can say >> at my funeral, "to bad he died just when he had great BG numbers".
>> I am trying to find some sort of balance here. I figure that when I am >> having orthostatic feinting spells, my blood pressure is simply too >> low. And yes, I need to see him before my regular appt which is some >> ways off.
>> Michael
> As you lose weight that, it may indeed cause a natural lowering of your > bp. So your fainting spells may be related. That said, if you're > having them only upon standing, it may mean that your body just doesn't > compensate as fast as it should. In other words, your resting bp may > not be unusually low. Your doctor should be able to check that to tell > if it's one or the other or both.
> Best regards, > Michelle C., T2, no meds
I'll bring this issue up again. I have measured my BP several times before I lowered my beta blocker dose. It was unusually low. It now measures in the normal range. The problem I have is not just bp control. I use the beta blocker to lower the pulse cap on my heart rate. That prevents angina. However, I have not had angina in a very long time.
>> I know what you mean about stopping therapy. I couldn't see what the >> purpose was. However, I will say that when I went in for testing for >> the second round of desensitization shots, a lot of the plants I was >> allergic to the first time tested negative--the exceptions being all >> the molds, ragweed, and cats. The test also revealed that I had >> become allergic to things that I hadn't been previously.
> My doc says, when my cat allergy disappears then slightly reappears > again, that sometimes such events aren't due to changes in immune > function so much as differences in batches of antigen.
Good question, Michelle. Low at 117 in July. I'll get October's #'s tomorrow.
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"Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > Nick Cramer wrote: > > "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > >> Nick Cramer wrote: > >>> "Michelle C." <michelle_of_the_des...@ATyahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> [ . . . ] > >>>> Mmmm, I love fried rice, unfortunately, I get one heck of a spike. > >>> Wok frying pre-cooked rice 'til it's crispy and browning on the > >>> bottom is soooooo good! My portion control for rice or corn is 2 Tbs. > >>> Pasta or potatoes, 1/4 cup. YMMV
> >> LOL! 2 Tbsp of rice is not worth the trouble imo. :-)
> > You may laugh m'dear, but I find it worth adding to the mix. Jun's > > bringing me some Gang Panang Gai (Thai Chicken in Panang Curry sauce), > > which I'll have over brown rice. She made it for the Sri Lankan > > Buddhist monks and I get my share!
> If I had someone in my family who was cooking rice for someone else, I > might have a bite. :-)
Acshully, my daughter made the rice; brown, long grain, Basmati - varies.
> Lucky monks!
I'm lucky, too, Michelle!
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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:24:47 -0600, Michael <mico...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I'll bring this issue up again. I have measured my BP several times >before I lowered my beta blocker dose. It was unusually low. It now >measures in the normal range. The problem I have is not just bp control. >I use the beta blocker to lower the pulse cap on my heart rate. That >prevents angina. However, I have not had angina in a very long time.
Some combo of low carbing, bg control, levothyroxine in the right amount, and/or the benefits from weight loss and exercise accompanying that lot enabled me to come off angina medication. I was on a nitro spray that I took at need; the intervals just took longer and longer until I didn't bother to renew the prescription.
Sean <spk_...@msn.com> wrote: > On Oct 24, 8:20?pm, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Michael <mico...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> > For no dietary reason, I was up to 119 this evening.
>> I would be thrilled to see 119 on my meter........ >> The little I read on this N/G gives me the impression that I'm one of the >> very few who doesn't panic when I go slightly out of the ever-changing >> government/medical published ranges.......... >> When I was dx'd many years ago, the most highly recommended endo in the area >> told me not to panic unless I was constantly over 150....... >> In the 17 years since, I've one had ONE(1) reading below 100(97) and all my >> parts are still attached and functioning........ > I'm so glad to read Alan and your comments. Michael, no offense > meant, but I get so... perturbed when I see posts and people sweating > numbers that are well within acceptable limits. Sheesh, 119, that's > my reading after a very low-carb small meal and 19 units of humalog > injected. If I get down in the 90's I start monitoring every half > hour to see if it's going to go lower. Usually it will continue to > drop into the 70's where I start going hypo.
Guess you are a T1? Don't forget that T2s can more easily and safely aim for lower BGs than T1s, and that there's a lot of difference between individual diabetics over how much it matters staying low, e.g. it matters more if you have high insulin resistance, which I believe is more common in T2s than T1s.
Michael <mico...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I have gotten FBG readings as high as 130. I cannot explain why. Now I > feel stressed about getting stressed.
Which will lead to you feeling stressed about getting stressed about getting stressed. As an engineer I'm sure you can see where that's going :-)
If you get stressed by things which you can't explain I can see that life, the universe, and everything, must be extremely stressful for you! I can't think what to suggest. Perhaps as Susan suggested it might a good idea to try changing your attitude to things you can't explain.
I notice in another post you said you would get high BG readings you had done nothing to deserve. "Deserving" is a concept that applies to relationships between people. Diabetes is not a person. Things can't be pleased or placated, nor have they any malice.
Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:46:27 -0500, Michael <mico...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: >>Yesterday it started snowing. What no one realized was that this snow >>was special. It kept snowing all night. This snow was very thick and >>heavy. It was also incredibly sticky.
>>The next morning we looked out our windows. Our prized apple tree had >>fallen over with its roots pulled up. Our telephone and cable lines had >>been cut by a huge branch that fell from a tree. All the power lines, >>telephone, and cable lines were coated with about 3 inches of ice. Many >>had parted.
>>A tree fell from our neighbors yard and the branches just brushed >>against our garage. Whew. We still have a garage.
>>Others in our town were not so lucky. There are downed trees and huge >>broken branches all over town as well as caved in roofs of people's homes.
>>I had just finished up two weeks ago on the last little bits of fitting >>my electric start generator in my garage. I simply turned off the main >>breaker and started it up. The power company came and fixed us up about >>2 hours ago.
>>The stress I felt from dealing with huge branches in the street, a chain >>saw, and live power lines caused a bump in my BG. For no dietary reason, >>I was up to 119 this evening. I suspect that the worse the disaster the >>higher the BG. Of course I realize that my stress was probably something >>I could have controlled, but I still felt anxious. Standing near the top >>of an 8 foot step ladder using a chain saw on a branch laying over a >>power line got me nervous.
>>Michael > Sorry to hear of the local weather problem but I'm glad you were > well-prepared. > Don't stress over that 119. > You make me nervous:-) My days of standing on step ladders with chain > saws are gone; we have an excellent SES service around here; I support > them as an excellent charity and leave that sort of work to them.
I still have a small scar on my wrist to remind me of what chainsaws can do. After that accident I decided that I would never use a chain saw again, only hand tools. When it comes to felling a big tree I even have a huge old tree felling saw with a big two handed handle at each end. Using hand tools takes a lot longer, but it's much kinder to the ears and good exercise which helps to keep the muscles up and the BGs down :-)
Michael <mico...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Ozgirl wrote: >> Susan wrote:
>>> Nope. And with his stress level, I'd bet his problem is cortisol more >>> than IR. Especially since even decaf raises his bg; it has some >>> caffeine and caffeine raises cortisol.
>> I got the impression only decaf raised Michael's bg not caffeinated. > I cannot try caffeinated coffee. So I would not know. Caffeine causes > an irregular heartbeat. I mean of course in me.
Me too. But I did further research and discovered it was more the oxidation byproducts in stale coffee which were causing the irregular beats. A weak cup of really stale coffee which the cafe had been keeping hot for an hour on a hotplate would have a much worse effect on me than a cup of vastly stronger coffee which had just been freshly made from freshly roasted and freshly gound beans.
So I now happily drink strong caffeinated coffee again. If I make it myself and am very careful about the cafes I use my heart is quite happy.
There is almost no research which has taken the trouble to distinguish between stale coffee and really fresh coffee. The rationale seems to be that when doing epidemiological research there's no point in caring about differences which most people don't care about. That's one more way in which epidemiological research can gibe misleading results. In my experience the difference between stale and fresh coffee in the effect on my digestion and my heart is very significant, and much more important than the amount of caffeine. As I'm using the term "stale" pretty much any coffee bought in a supermarket is stale, except for a few of the very best vaccuum packed kinds.
And some kinds of coffee maker actually make stale coffee from the freshest ingredients, the percolator being the most notorious example.
W. Baker <wba...@panix.com> wrote: > Cheri <cher...@newsguy.com> wrote: > : "Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message > : news:7kujv9F3bgaf8U1@mid.individual.net... > : > x-no-archive: yes > : > > : > W. Baker wrote: > : > > : >> I am having some stress in my life currently as my husband is becoming > : >> very confused and I feel like I have lost my life partner. > : > > : > Wendy, I'm really sorry. Art Linkletter summed it all up really well: > : > "old age isn't for sissies." > : > > : > I spend Thursday afternoons with my MIL, who is experiencing rapidly > : > increasing dementia. I love her, but I'm finding it increasingly > : > stressful, so I understand. > : > > : > > : > Susan > : I'm sorry too Wendy and Susan, it was very painful to go through with my MIL > : for almost 5 years. Very sad, and such a loss. > : Cheri > What scares me is that I went through this for 9 years with my mother and > the thought of goin gthrough it again is very distressing. The MD thinks > that he is not progressive, but just lost memory frrm throwing some blood > clots. He is on Coumadin and tested frequently.
Disorders which degenerate the person rather than the body are especially cruel. You have my sympathy. I lost my first wife to dementia a while back. We had long ago separated, but remained long distance good old friends. At my last visit to her she struggled for half an hour to make me a cup of tea. She was absolutely determined to do it herself and wouldn't accept any help. Finally she gave up in tears of rage and frustration.
You might like to check out gingko biloba. It's claimed to improve cognitive functions is those whose brains are starting to suffer from poor blood circulation. I don't know what his physical health is like, but generally speaking mild cardiovascular exercise which gets the blood moving through the muscles also gets it moving beneficially through the brain. Walking is good because it not only exercises the body but the changing scenery exercises the attention and breaks the cognitive loops which tired old minds can get stuck in.
In article <7lg50pFlvmu...@mid.individual.net>, Chris Malcolm <c...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> I still have a small scar on my wrist to remind me of what chainsaws > can do. After that accident I decided that I would never use a chain > saw again, only hand tools. When it comes to felling a big tree I even > have a huge old tree felling saw with a big two handed handle at each > end. Using hand tools takes a lot longer, but it's much kinder to the > ears and good exercise which helps to keep the muscles up and the BGs > down :-)
I have a small scar on the side of my left hand to remind me of what hand tools can do if you're not paying attention! ;-)
> Sean <spk_...@msn.com> wrote: > > On Oct 24, 8:20?pm, Blash <bla...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Michael <mico...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> > For no dietary reason, I was up to 119 this evening.
> >> I would be thrilled to see 119 on my meter........ > >> The little I read on this N/G gives me the impression that I'm one of the > >> very few who doesn't panic when I go slightly out of the ever-changing > >> government/medical published ranges.......... > >> When I was dx'd many years ago, the most highly recommended endo in the > >> area > >> told me not to panic unless I was constantly over 150....... > >> In the 17 years since, I've one had ONE(1) reading below 100(97) and all > >> my > >> parts are still attached and functioning........
> > I'm so glad to read Alan and your comments. Michael, no offense > > meant, but I get so... perturbed when I see posts and people sweating > > numbers that are well within acceptable limits. Sheesh, 119, that's > > my reading after a very low-carb small meal and 19 units of humalog > > injected. If I get down in the 90's I start monitoring every half > > hour to see if it's going to go lower. Usually it will continue to > > drop into the 70's where I start going hypo.
> Guess you are a T1? Don't forget that T2s can more easily and safely > aim for lower BGs than T1s, and that there's a lot of difference > between individual diabetics over how much it matters staying low, > e.g. it matters more if you have high insulin resistance, which I > believe is more common in T2s than T1s.
True. Also true is that several of us have been advising Michael to ease up on his obsession with rubber band tight control.
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