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Karl  
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 More options 31 Oct, 03:56
Newsgroups: alt.satellite.tv.europe, rec.arts.tv, alt.satellite
From: Karl <_@_>
Date: 31 Oct 2009 03:56:37 -0000
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 03:56
Subject: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!

  The trash bag works great!  We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
which lasted for a couple days.  All the right conditions to test
the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

  Our local Home Depot does not stock the Dupont RZ-50 that was
recommended.  But as it turns out, I don't believe it is all that
necessary.  The bag all by itself prevented the snow from piling
up on the dish very much, certainly not to the point of causing
much deterioration or loss of the satellite signal.  And the few
little bits of ice and snow that were barely sticking to the
plastic bag were easily brushed away with a gentle sweep of the
hand the next day.  I mean it's amazing.  The totally hard-frozen
ice popped right off the bag!

  Thanks again to " Dirtydan <Dirtydan.3zy...@satelliteguys.us> "
who suggested using the trash bag, and the RZ-50, although I
haven't had the chance to try the latter.  But now that I know
the bag works so well, I'll definitely keep my eye out for the
RZ-50.  You're the man, Dan!

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Jim Watt  
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 More options 31 Oct, 11:35
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From: Jim Watt <jimw...@aol.no_way>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:35:26 +0100
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 11:35
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
On 31 Oct 2009 03:56:37 -0000, Karl <_@_> wrote:

>  The trash bag works great!  We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
>which lasted for a couple days.  All the right conditions to test
>the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

What is this 'snow' and 'ice' of which you speak?

we only get occasional rain here :)
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Linea Recta  
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 More options 31 Oct, 12:22
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From: "Linea Recta" <mccm....@abc.invalid>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:22:29 +0100
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 12:22
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht news:OGGW966740117.497650463@reece.net.au...

>  The trash bag works great!  We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
> which lasted for a couple days.  All the right conditions to test
> the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

Gosh, snowfall... Where on earth might that be?
Anyway, I think this is a very good idea. It seems effective, doesn't cost
much and I suppose it will also protect the dish against corrosion.

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 More options 31 Oct, 12:22
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From: "Buddenbrooks" <knightstemp...@budweiser.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:22:56 -0000
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 12:22
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!

"Jim Watt" <jimw...@aol.no_way> wrote in message

news:h58oe5t9utp4sbkikq3mqeq8p2nk3ghta8@4ax.com...
 >

> we only get occasional rain here :)
> --

  You have set the water drop parameters incorrectly, should be state =
solid, colour = white. I think you still have the default, liquid,
transparent.

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Karl  
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 More options 31 Oct, 14:18
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From: Karl <_@_>
Date: 31 Oct 2009 14:18:42 -0000
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 14:18
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
In news:4aec2c0b$0$83251$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl . . .

"Linea Recta" <mccm....@abc.invalid> wrote:
>"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht news:OGGW966740117.497650463@reece.net.au...

>>  The trash bag works great!  We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
>> which lasted for a couple days.  All the right conditions to test
>> the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

>Gosh, snowfall... Where on earth might that be?

  As Clint Eastwood said: "It snows in the mountains."

>Anyway, I think this is a very good idea. It seems effective, doesn't cost
>much and I suppose it will also protect the dish against corrosion.

  It's especially helpful in situations where seasonal
snowfalls are common and the dish is not easy to reach.

  I'm using a common tall white kitchen bag, which is
draped loosely over the dish and secured with a bit of
duct tape, but not too tight so that any wind or breeze
can get into the bag and "rattle" it from time to time.
I suspect that's what helps keep snow and ice from
building up on it, that, and the bag acts like "teflon"
or something against the freezing moisture.  The most
amazing part is that the bag does not interfere at all
with the microwave satellite signals.

  Who'd a thunk it?  The cheapest and easiest solution
is the best solution.  I would imagine the RZ-50 stuff,
http://www.rz-50.com/, might help it to stay ice-free?
But as it is, the bag by itself does the trick.

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John McWilliams  
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 More options 31 Oct, 18:53
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From: John McWilliams <jp...@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:53:45 -0700
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 18:53
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!

I woulda used a black one, especially if the angle of the dish would
collect snow or ice on the baggie.
What angle is it?

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Linea Recta  
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 More options 31 Oct, 19:25
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From: "Linea Recta" <mccm....@abc.invalid>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:25:56 +0100
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 19:25
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!

"Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht
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Here it hardly ever snows and my dish is very well accessible. :-)

>  I'm using a common tall white kitchen bag, which is

I think in this case a dark coloured bag would be even better as it collects
more heat from the sun.

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Karl  
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 More options 1 Nov, 00:44
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From: Karl <_@_>
Date: 1 Nov 2009 00:44:29 -0000
Local: Sun 1 Nov 2009 00:44
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
In news:hci13p$145$1@news.eternal-september.org . . .

  I might try using a black bag at some point, but so far
the white bag is doing the job "swimmingly."  The elevation
angle on the dish (Dish 500) is 43 degrees.

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Jim Watt  
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 More options 1 Nov, 11:18
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From: Jim Watt <jimw...@aol.no_way>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:18:53 +0100
Local: Sun 1 Nov 2009 11:18
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
Snow is not a problem as it never happens here
but getting a bin bag large enough for my 1.8m
dish might be hard and the wind an issue.

However, putting a plastic collar around the
lnb to keep water off its face made a significant
difference to its performance in medium rain.
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 More options 3 Nov, 11:41
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From: ziikell101 <joekon...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:41:52 +0100
Local: Tues 3 Nov 2009 11:41
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!

Jim Watt wrote:
> However, putting a plastic collar around the
> lnb to keep water off its face made a significant
> difference to its performance in medium rain.
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Did you buy or make one for a plastic cup?  Looking to one of these myself.

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Willem-Jan Markerink  
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 More options 17 Nov, 16:20
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From: "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.marker...@a1.nl>
Date: 17 Nov 2009 16:20:00 GMT
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
"Linea Recta" <mccm....@abc.invalid> wrote in
news:4aec2c0b$0$83251$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl:

> "Karl" <_@_> schreef in bericht
> news:OGGW966740117.497650463@reece.net.au...

>>  The trash bag works great!  We just had a pretty heavy snowfall
>> which lasted for a couple days.  All the right conditions to test
>> the effectiveness of placing a trash bag over the dish.

> Gosh, snowfall... Where on earth might that be?
> Anyway, I think this is a very good idea. It seems effective, doesn't
> cost much and I suppose it will also protect the dish against corrosion.

Even a bag that is open on the bottom might contain/trap more
moisture/humidity than no bag at all, in average....perhaps a very loose bag
could solve that, moving in the wind, acting as an air bellows, pumping air
in and out.

The worst thing one can do to store a car outside is cover it with a non-
moisture-permeable tarp....

Maybe there is a market for high-end moisture-permeable Goretex or eVent
bags?....:))

I do like the 'remote pull-cord' snow-removal feature though....:))

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Willem-Jan Markerink

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is sometimes far less intelligent than
     the inability to understand

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Nancy2  
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 More options 17 Nov, 20:37
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From: Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:37:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues 17 Nov 2009 20:37
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
On Oct 31, 6:22 am, "Linea Recta" <mccm....@abc.invalid> wrote:

Corrosion?  In the U.S., Dish network and DirecTV both own the dishes,
so if it gets corroded, they'll come and replace it.

Since DTV changed to a single satellite (hence, single dish), rain
fade is pretty much a thing of the past.  My local ABC affiliate wants
to break up now and then, but that's a local thing.

If I put a bag over my dish, I'll have to get a stepladder and
approach the edge of the roof - no thanks. ;-)

N.


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Jim Watt  
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 More options 23 Nov, 16:26
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From: Jim Watt <jimw...@aol.no_way>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:26:01 +0100
Local: Mon 23 Nov 2009 16:26
Subject: Re: satellite dish de-icer? In the bag!
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:41:52 +0100, ziikell101 <joekon...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Jim Watt wrote:
>> However, putting a plastic collar around the
>> lnb to keep water off its face made a significant
>> difference to its performance in medium rain.
>> --
>> Jim Watt          
>> http://www.gibnet.com

>Did you buy or make one for a plastic cup?  Looking to one of these myself.

I used a plastic baby wipes container.
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