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 More options 4 July, 14:36
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:36:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 4 July 2009 14:36
Subject: Re: Why Do Scientologists Trust Miscavige?
On 4 Juli, 13:15, SMASHERKARL <k...@atheist.com> wrote:

> "This is truly one of the biggest mysteries about the Church of
> Scientology: Why do Scientologists trust David Miscavige?

Because people are as people do. Got NOTHING to do with the subject,
quite the contrary.

Scientology/Dianetics are about information, not about icons, but
people have always created them, and will continue to create them no
matter what, but they never will be the subject.

RR

> Scientologists consider him right up there with L. Ron Hubbard, pretty
> much "Source". But why?

> What has he done that warrants such absolute, blind faith?

> I guess some Scientologists figure that, since he was "put in charge
> by Ron, he must be OK." The only problem with that belief is that it
> isn't true! He specifically was not "put in charge by Ron." When Ron
> died, there was a whole organizational hierarchy that was in place to
> run the Church of Scientology, with other people in charge. David
> Miscavige wasn't included. So, no, Ron didn't assign or approve
> Miscavige as head of the church. Didn't happen.

> If Ron didn't particularly trust Miscavige with the job, why do
> Scientologists trust Miscavige?

> Well, there is the story about how Miscavige "put down a mutiny of
> mission holders" back in 1982. That's the story from Miscavige. The
> mission holders have a completely different story. Scientologists will
> undoubtedly choose to believe Miscavige's version -- but there is
> something they should look at. Prior to Miscavige's take-over of the
> mission network, missions were in a period of sustained and exciting
> expansion. Prior to Miscavige's action, missions were springing up all
> over the place and they were huge. Since Miscavige's action, the
> mission network has fallen on very hard times, with missions closing
> rather than expanding or opening. Based on results, Miscavige
> factually destroyed the Mission Network and killed a huge period of
> expansion for Scientology. Is this a person to trust with running the
> Church of Scientology?

> So, if Miscavige actually destroyed this vital Scientology expansion,
> why do Scientologists trust him?

> Perhaps some Scientologists trust him so much because of the whole
> "Golden Age of Tech" that Miscavige developed -- a complete change in
> all Scientology training. Miscavige touts this as a "great
> achievement" and Scientologists believe him. Those who trained
> directly under Hubbard have a completely different view of things, but
> they are not allowed to voice any disagreements. Once again, "good"
> Scientologists will believe Miscavige's version -- however, they
> should look at the results of this "Golden Age of Tech". The results
> are depressing.

> Some people have been completing their training under the new methods,
> but after that, things are not looking good. Auditors have stopped
> auditing and have dropped out of sight. Auditors and Case Supervisors
> have gotten into trouble for messing up cases. Today, there are far
> fewer auditors than before the "Golden Age of Tech". A "training
> improvement" that causes auditors to fail and stop auditing? That
> doesn't sound good.

> But, despite the obvious problems with Miscavige's "improvements",
> Scientologists still trust him implicitly. Why?

> He is "expanding Scientology" isn't he? As leader of the Church of
> Scientology, David Miscavige's highest priority target from extant
> Hubbard orders, was to bring all churches to the "size of old Saint
> Hill" (the main organization when Scientology was booming).
> Scientologists will recall church after church receiving their
> recognition for "reaching the size of old Saint Hill". Then nothing.
> What happened? Did they make it? Are all the churches at that size
> now?

> No. The few that did (barely) make it to that size, quickly collapsed
> to much smaller sizes almost immediately. Miscavige's "management" had
> artificially boosted these organizations just enough to "win" the
> award, but it was bad management since it fell apart immediately. At
> this time no church is even close to the size of "old Saint Hill". The
> most important orders from Hubbard are now in a drawer somewhere,
> ignored and forgotten.

> The results of Miscavige's attempt to carry out Hubbard's big project
> to get all churches to the "size of old Saint Hill" -- nothing. No
> churches are at that size. Total failure!

> Well, there is this new program to expand Scientology: Forcing the
> public Scientologists to cough up millions and millions of dollars to
> buy big buildings for their local church. Scientologists are told by
> Miscavige that this is a wild and wonderful success. Scientologists
> sincerely believe this view of things. But they should look at the
> results. What are the results? A few of these new buildings have been
> completed and opened. Very few. More new buildings have been purchased
> but not renovated. What happened?

> •The few churches that have newly renovated buildings are doing poorly
> -- they are not expanding. Because of the additional expenses
> associated with the newer, bigger buildings, their staff are paid
> little or nothing. It's a real struggle.

> •The churches that have purchased but not renovated their buildings
> are also in deep trouble. They have additional expenses, but find it
> difficult to make any money from their parishioners -- the
> parishioners have been tapped out on money.
> •The churches still working on buying new buildings are really
> struggling. Their parishioners have been hammered for money and more
> money -- so they're not taking courses either. It is an incredible
> struggle.

> The result of Miscavige's "Ideal Org" program is to remove all
> available money from the Scientology public, leaving very little for
> them to buy services at the local church. The result of that has been
> to collapse all the local churches. Anyone could have predicted that,
> and this is exactly what has happened. The money for the new buildings
> goes to Miscavige and does not benefit the local church. If they
> collect enough money to buy a building, the ownership of that building
> is transferred to Miscavige's Int. Landlord and does not benefit the
> local church.

> So, Miscavige is a total failure in expanding Scientology, and, in
> fact, every action he takes causes the Church of Scientology to
> shrink. There really is no reason anyone would trust a person with a
> track record like Miscavige's. So why do Scientologists still trust
> him so much?

> Maybe some Scientologist will tell me.

> But I'll tell you why I think Scientologists trust Miscavige despite
> his abysmal record.

> Based on my own experiences when I was a "loyal Scientologist", I
> think it's because David Miscavige is the one who controls all
> information to the loyal Scientologists. They are forbidden from
> reading or watching or listening to anything else. Miscavige controls
> the Scientology newsletters and magazines. Miscavige controls the
> press releases. Miscavige controls the Scientology events. And
> everything a Scientologist is allowed to see modestly proclaims David
> Miscavige as the most amazing and wonderful person in the whole world.

> And, of course, Scientologists believe him and they trust him. He
> wouldn't lie to them, would he?"

> Posted by Just Bill

> http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-do-scientologists...


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