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Today in Scientology -- December 16th

androidca...@hotmail.com (Scientology Today) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 11:54:23 UT

On December 16th in Scientology history
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Goodwill plan meets opposition
December 16, 2007, Lorri Helfand, St. Petersburg Times
[link]
The church wants to sell the site, which it bought more than 25 years

Nicole Kidman clams up about Scientology

eldonb...@aol.com (Eldon) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 09:27:02 UT

See the video clip embedded in the story.
[link]
Nicole Kidman iced over when British reporter Andrew Marr brought up
"one of the things you haven't talked about before" on his BBC show.
That topic was her ex-husband's religion.

Comment la secte criminelle parvient à faire mettre ses mauvais bouquins sur la liste de bestsellers

xenufra...@free.fr (xenufrance) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 08:32:16 UT

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Will Fry dit avoir été le manager des ventes d'ouvrages pour quantité
d'organisations scientologues américaines.
Il explique en particulier avoir reçu des ordres de la direction centrale de

[French TV] "Là-bas si j'y suis." The modifiation of the law still in the news

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 08:18:11 UT

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Bonjour!
The "simplification" which made the law more complicated and thereby removed
the possibility of the criminal organisation known as the "church" <spit>
of $cientology being banned in France this year was discussed. Again. Two
lots of one hour, apparently.

[Legal] Lindstein lawsuit against DM seeks class action status

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 07:41:40 UT

[Gawker] "Scientology 'the crusade' continues"

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 07:32:49 UT

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Howdy!
[link]
Footage from the video for this year's LRH birthday celebration analysed.
Niiice
Best regards
Jens
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Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org
Analogue filtering / 5GHz RLAN / Mandriva Linux / odds and ends

How the Co$ got "Ai! Pedrito" to the bestseller list, by Will Fry formerly of BPI

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 07:20:18 UT

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Hi There!
[link]
tl;dr by cheating ;-)
Best regards

Jens
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message to Farty Hearturn

p...@philscott.net (phil scott) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 06:08:12 UT

OK Im back.. even though the cab drivers in Tijuanna tried to kill
me... and the food took out my stomach lining.
Note to anonymous and the ARScc wdne ... IF THE HOT SAUCE IS KIND OF
PINK LOOKING? DONT EAT IT
Phil scott

Sandy Springs: $CN CHURCH & $CN Federal Lawsuit Coming

tiggerinthe...@webtv.net (Tigger) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 04:05:02 UT

Lawsuit coming, despite Sandy Springs' OK of Scientology church �|
ajc.com
[link]
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Quote:
Scientology is coming to Sandy Springs – but a federal lawsuit is
coming first.
“Absolutely,” said attorney William Woodson Galloway, when asked if

Monica Pignotti has some bad news waiting for her in PACER…

didacticderivat...@yahoo.com (didacticderivative) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 01:11:02 UT

United States Court, District of Maine. Case 2:09-cv-00213-DBH
Project DoD, hosting company of the likes of Larry Sarner (voting
machine scam artrist), Linda Rosa (she who followed Sarner into
bankruptcy) and Jean Mercer (the psychologist who never treated a
patient) lost their "landmark reverse DMCA" case.

SP TIMES: Vote for TOP 2009 STORIES

tiggerinthe...@webtv.net (Tigger) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 23:00:29 UT

Fom OCMB
Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - Vote:2009 Top 10
stories at St.Petersburg Times tampabay.com
[link]
Posted: 14 Dec 2009 22:19 Post subject: Vote:2009 Top 10 stories
at St.Petersburg Times tampabay.com
Subject description: SP Times/tampabay.com 14th Dec 09

Yeah! SHY DAVID (Rice) Recovering

tiggerinthe...@webtv.net (Tigger) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 22:50:32 UT

[quote="Sponge"]Update:
David is back on his feet, back home in the desert and, a couple of
months ago got back on youtube,
[link]
but is looking much better today...
[link][/quote:
Operation Clambake Message Board :: View topic - Critic David Rice

The Metzger Law Group joins Barry Van Sickle vs Scientology in Headley, DeCrescenzo and Lindstein Human Trafficking case

arnaldole...@lermanet.com (Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 21:24:00 UT

Originally Posted by Barry Van Sickle View Post
The Metzger Law Group. a plaintiffs' law firm with substantial
resources, is coming in as co-counsel in the Headley, DeCrescenzo,and
Lindstein cases. They are based in Long beach, CA.
The Lindstein case , which is the case being brought against David

Some thoughts about the specious argument regarding "cult" is not defined in law

xenufra...@free.fr (xenufrance) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 15:41:21 UT

(Thanks for his excellent translation to my friend Eldon!)
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I understand that for years, the word "sect" or CULT have not been legally
defined.
And that is not just in French law (although, see more about that below).
"Cult" is not defined in English law (although... see more about that
below).
I know the word "religion" is not defined in law (but also see below).

"Thoughtful" (Steve Hall) discusses OT III vis a vis Hubbard's "Revolt in the Stars" film script

eldonb...@aol.com (Eldon) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 15:27:44 UT

Is this convoluted double-talk, or is it just me?
[link]
STEVE SEZ:
But first, a non-confidential word about OT III. In this article, I am
not making a comment upon the veracity of the incident LRH describes
in the script. There are three solid reasons for that: (1) Scientology

Today in Scientology -- December 15th

androidca...@hotmail.com (Scientology Today) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 11:09:18 UT

On December 15th in Scientology history
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The Mac of Internet providers
December 15, 1997, Larry Armstrong, BusinessWeek
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Three years ago, business was booming for Sky Dylan Dayton. The
23-year-old owned Cafe Mocha, a trendy L.A. coffeehouse; had opened a

Why the MEST is like a 'piece of paper' for the thetan...

p...@peterchristensen.eu (RonWay AIRlines (DK)) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 09:27:33 UT

Hi,
Resent Joke:
============
What does the THETAN do when his 'pen' is no longer working?
- Takes a NEW one!
What then if his incarnation (INC) is getting to old?
- He takes a NEW one!
But one should always 'write' as if this one was the ONLY one, as JC
said...
Reincarnation works EVERY time ?
With ARC,

"This is the Crusade!"

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 07:15:07 UT

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Howdy!
(well, "This is the Sad")
[link]
Ideal mOrgue propaganda video re-cut.
Best regards
Jens
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Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org
Analogue filtering / 5GHz RLAN / Mandriva Linux / odds and ends

[Gawker] Hubbard policy letters from 1962

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 07:01:09 UT

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Hi There!
In the "hey, look at how wacky those screwy $cientlogists are!" department
we have the series, referenced on
[link]
Starting with
[link] "Sex and

back to Maria Pia Gardini

xenufra...@free.fr (xenufrance) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 05:39:05 UT

I communicated with Maria Pia regarding her refund etc.
She had been refund of something like 27% of her payments to the crime cult.
The cult gave her back $ 500000, she says, instead of the 1.840,000 she
paid, not comprising the slave work. The document signed is probably of not
the least value before italian courts, ( I mean, since it is clearly a

$CN Vote TUESDAY in Sandy Springs

tiggerinthe...@webtv.net (Tigger) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 03:49:21 UT

Quote:
The showdown over Scientology in Sandy Springs comes up for a vote
Tuesday night that both opponents and supporters hope puts an end to
the matter.
It isn't likely.......End of Quote
Read the whole thing here:
Scientology vote Tuesday in Sandy Springs �| ajc.com
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And more and more love for the original Marty! Wooohooo!

barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com (Barbara loves Marty) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 02:38:02 UT

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For you, Marty, the original Marty, my Prince, my love, my husband, my
everything.
I am thinking of you constantly and want nothing more to be back in
your arms where my home is. You are the most special and unusual man
in the universe. Looking in your eyes was like looking in the eyes of

Scientology Front: Freddie Ulan Advertising ( IAS, WISE, IRS Chosen People, Intelligence Gathering, HIPAA, Guantanamo Bay, Clearwater, Florida)

lermanet...@gmail.com (Maureen) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 00:05:14 UT

To: ARSCC (wdne)
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mail, you may see it online here.
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r=1075584&msgid=260020&act=QEN A&c=148893&admin=0&destination =http%3A%2F
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Get tickets for the 2010 Symposium and prepare your practice for take

Why Did You NOT Get Involved With Scientology?

tiggerinthe...@webtv.net (Tigger) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 21:50:19 UT

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:
An ex-girlfriend of mine whom I didn't see for over 13 years came over
to my house one day. She told me she had been in the rehabilitation
facility Narconon at Zutphen and was no longer using drugs as heroin.
She also told me she was a member of CoS.
I was very surprised, because she told me she had been to at least 4

UFO, fake planes???. This UFO flew straight over head, no sound...

lkharvey312...@yahoo.com (Searching For The Truth) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 21:01:54 UT

Fake Planes ... wish I have
something better to call them!!
Anyway, they make no noise as you will see, and their lighting is not
as it
should be.
Not sure if it's aliens dricing them around ... but their not normal,
that's for
damn sure.
[link]

No scientific evidence has found a "gay gene"

gaylordmerryweat...@hushmail.com (Gaylord Merryweather) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 20:18:46 UT

[link]
ps-bond-support-genderless-mar riage-while-rejecting-ex-gay-r ights-7886848
7.html
WASHINGTON, Dec. 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The New Jersey Senate
Judiciary Committee voted on Monday to advance the state's genderless
marriage bill to the full Senate for consideration. Speaking before the

NEAL WARREN AKA GREG OR GREGORY HALL FROM ISLAMORADA, FLORIDA, HOMELESS BUM ON A TINY BOAT "CUT THE MUSTARD" BECAUSE THE IDIOT WANTS TO STEAL MARK DE ROTHSCHILD'S WIFE AND FORGES HIM ON USENET

barbaraschwarz2...@excite.com (Barbara Schwarz) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 19:25:39 UT

For the records

Why I don't have to dye my hair and dark mahagony is still my natural hair color

barbaraschwarz2...@excite.com (Barbara Schwarz) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 19:13:03 UT

Some people are in their 20s and are getting grey hair. So, why is
mine still naturally dark red?
Because as lighter I would get, as more I's look like L. Ron Hubbard,
which the German secret service wants to prevent.
White hair is caused by remote controlled chlorine filled water germs
that attack the roots of the hair.

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saimap...@gmail.com (saima81) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 19:08:27 UT

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UNIVERSITY LAHORE" "HAZARA UNIVERSITY RESULTS" "PUNJAB UNIVERSITY"
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What Barbara would look like if she didn't color her hair

gregh...@home.fake (Gregory Hall) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 15:04:37 UT

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Today in Scientology -- December 14th

androidca...@hotmail.com (Scientology Today) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 11:12:44 UT

On December 14th in Scientology history
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Sect Appeal: A&E Examines The Scientology Phenomenon
December 14, 1998, Kay McFadden, Seattle Times
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"Surveillance in New Religious Movements: Scientology as a case study" academic paper

jenst...@tingleff.org (Jens Tingleff) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 08:11:31 UT

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Howdy!
This is getting good reviews from people who can read it.
Raine, Susan. (2009) Surveillance in New Religious Movements: Scientology as
a case study. Religious Studies and Theology. 28(1): 63-94.
<[link]>

I love you, Barbara (Sarah), I'll be soon with you!

nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 03:50:06 UT

It is me, the real Marty (not the balding Mony-guy), and I love you more
than life itself, my pretty princess.
I never even read the rant by Greg Hall or Neal Warren or others. They are
so full of hatred and manipulation. What Warren is trying to do to you is
manipulate you into a response. Don't go for the bait, honey. He is

Why Did You Get Involved In Scientology In The First Place?

xxxxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx (Lawrence) — Mon, 12 Dec 2009 00:46:51 UT

I got involved in Scientology originally because I believed
for a long time that I was a person with bad intentions.
I felt like I had false purposes for living and that Scientology
was the only way to address those issues. I learned about
my good qualities on my own however by having to go
out into the world and assume responsibility for things,

Who is this Barbara Schwarz who keeps saying she's married to me?

gregh...@home.fake (TheMark de Rothschild) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 22:57:47 UT

I wish she'd stop lying. I have NEVER been married to anybody named Barbara
Schwarz. Sounds like a Nazi name to me. I don't like Germans and I like Nazi
type Germans even less.
Mark Charles de Rothschild

LOL! Xenu gets a sissy slap in passing

fr...@skeptictank.org (DamOTclese) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 22:52:46 UT

[link]
The video is a response to our very own David's video where-in
the baffleing question of how life survived the Big Bang is examined.
Along the way the stupid Scientology fuck L. Ron Hubbard gets his
Xenu bait-and-switch bunfo fraud sissy slapped.
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10-year-old boy rejects Republicanism: [link]

Was Maria Pia Gardini's Daughter An Illegal PC?

xxxxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx (Lawrence) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 21:58:42 UT

Full interview here:
[link]
In Scientology an illegal PC is anyone who has a terminal
illness such as AIDS, Cancer, Lupus, etc.
Maria Pia Gardini's daughter died of AIDS after she
finished OT VII.
AIDS is not something a person gets on Monday
and dies from on Tuesday. It takes many years

I have also slept with Tiger Woods

fr...@skeptictank.org (DamOTclese) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 20:21:17 UT

[link]
LOL!
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10-year-old boy rejects Republicanism: [link]
Does belief in astrology cause insanity? [link]
"They love them some god-fearin' dipshits, don't they?" -- SittingDuck

Dear Anonymous

tomk...@netscape.delete.net (Tom Klemesrud) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 19:51:47 UT

Please stop making Dennis Erlich think that everyone he doesn't know, is me.
It makes Dennis look delusiona, foolish, and subjects his tax exemption
awarded ministry to ridicule.
Tom Klemesrud

The Original Marty Rathbun is a Creep!

gregh...@home.fake (Barbara loves Gregory Hall, YES!) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 18:39:22 UT

I like to share with you a very deeply concerned I have about the original
Marty Rathbun. First, the misinformation: the original Marty since years
suggests that the rigors that his victims have been called upon to undergo
have been amply justified.
Where the heck did he come up with that? The answer's not obvious because

How Come Barbara NEVER Wishes de Rothschild aka Marty Rathbun a Happy Anniversary?

gregh...@home.fake (Gregory Hall) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 17:23:44 UT

How come Barbara never wishes Mark de Rothschild, aka Marty Rathbun, a happy
anniversary?
Can it be that she doesn't even know the date of the alleged marriage?
She doesn't know her own birthday which is obviously a real occurrence so I
guess it's not surprising that she can't remember a marriage date that never

Aaron Saxton kicks those from his YouTube channel that he considers being a threat to his credibility... [repost]

roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com (Roadrunner) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 15:23:18 UT

This was that guy that made some socalled revelations.
[link]
He is actually in the business of very brutely attacking Scientology
and all that comes with it.
whatever, where this came from, and why hasn't anyone come across it
previously, before I start giving this one too much credence. "

Global Warming and what you can do to against it

sustainable.future...@gmail.com (.) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 13:59:51 UT

Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.

Today in Scientology -- December 13th

androidca...@hotmail.com (Scientology Today) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 13:21:23 UT

On December 13th in Scientology history
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High profile couple never pairs church and state
December 13, 1998, Mary Jacoby, St. Petersburg Times
[link]
Van Susteren and Coale are Scientologists. But unlike members of

Marth Rathbun, PIs, sniff

rh...@xenu-directory.net (rhill) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 12:31:26 UT

/=====
Since Mike and I have spent the past 24 hours evading a network of PI’s
attempting to usurp our human rights in a number of ways
[link]
\=====
I don't know what he is crying about, David Miscavige is religiously
applying L. Ron Hubbard's religious doctrine of "noisy investigation."

San Francisco Dec 12 raid

polymorp...@earthlink.net (slobeck) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 07:53:17 UT

Dateline San Francisco - Pouring rain. Several anons were there getting
wet and causing much enturbulation. We had 2 ex-scilons - one with
"SP" shaved into his head join the handful of anons. Many LULZ were had
and flyers handed out. The scilons decided to set up a stress test
booth at a nearby subway station probably because they could use it for

Scientology Chicago Picket Report Dec 12 2009

arnaldole...@lermanet.com (Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 01:11:20 UT

After a couple days with below zero -15 wind chills... today it
reached 32 degrees..
2 of us picketed at this location (Arnie and Maureen) at Scientology
on Lincoln Ave with blow up Xenu dolls and a Warning Entering Greedy
Cult Zone sign... , borg told us we needed to be 150 feet away, we
called bullshit... Cops came.. and then left.. as they left the

Re: Top 5 Worst Inventions Ever

bals...@aol.com (Rob Cypher) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 00:23:46 UT

You forgot to post this where someone could debate you. ;p

Manchester December 12

neilclark...@hotmail.com (neil c) — Sun, 12 Dec 2009 00:03:41 UT

Hi All, Another successful protest at Manc org!! There were 18 of
us :-)
video here: [link]

Larry Brennan++ in German $CN-Documentary

t...@dmirea.ll (The Admiral) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:47:06 UT

(dunno if it was posted any(w)here before)
this was on big German TV-station yesterday (44:00 mins)
Larry appears at min 4:30
(speaker speaks over him)
The following URL:
[link]
[link]
Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL: