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Barbara loves Marty  
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 More options 24 Oct, 17:09
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From: Barbara loves Marty <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 17:09
Subject: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
to stay in power.

Barbara Schwarz


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Gregory Hall  
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 More options 24 Oct, 18:56
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From: "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:56:07 -0400
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 18:56
Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
"Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

> I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
> in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
> to stay in power.

> Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz's ideas  are being vindicated at time passes. That's one
reason I'm on her side. I'd rather be more right than more wrong.

--
Gregory Hall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48hOl3PjcsI  Scientology Training Film


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Harun al Rashid  
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 More options 24 Oct, 19:50
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From: Harun al Rashid <Ras...@baghdad.invalid>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:50:14 +0200
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....

Barbara is crazy as a bat. You choose to be on her side. Ask yourself, what
does that make you?

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Gregory Hall  
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 More options 24 Oct, 20:09
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From: "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:09:55 -0400
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 20:09
Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
"Harun al Rashid" <Ras...@baghdad.invalid> wrote in message
news:7kh0j6F39evevU1@mid.individual.net...

I didn't say I was on Barbara's side on EVERYTHING. Obviously, everybody
knows that's not the case from the way she fights me, defames me, belittles
me and compares me to some creepy sex offender.  But, when she's right on
some things, then I am, indeed, on her side when it comes to those things.

Doppelgangers sound crazy but they have been used down through the ages. It
is said that Saddam Hussein, for example, had about a dozen doppelgangers.
The same goes for Osama bin Laden. Why do you think they did DNA tests on
Saddam Hussein when they drug him out of his hole in the ground and why they
will do DNA tests on bin Laden if he's still alive and they capture or kill
him?

Somebody needs to infiltrate Mr. Texas's compound and get some of his DNA.
It could then be compared to de Rothschild DNA to prove he's not even
related.

--
Gregory Hall


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Richard Ford  
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 More options 24 Oct, 21:25
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From: Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 21:25
Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On 24 Oct, 20:09, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:

Maybe there is a 'good' DM locked up with Xenu. Why do you post under
two seperate names BS?

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Mark Thorson  
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From: Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:27:43 -0700
Local: Sat 24 Oct 2009 22:27
Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....

Barbara loves Marty wrote:

> According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

> I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
> in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
> to stay in power.

> Barbara Schwarz

Yes, that's correct.  Scn is dying, and the infiltrator
groups are competing to take over the billions of assets
which will become available to whoever takes over next.

The California faction is not ready to make their move
immediately, which is why they are keeping CoB in power.
They want to keep him in his present position, while
getting rid of all the other possible candidates to
become the new CoB.  Once their man is in position,
the current CoB will be sent away.


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Jens Tingleff  
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From: Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:46:53 +0000
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
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No, that's ridiculous! I am 100% certain that every single staff member and
public at London orgs are completely faithful to Mr David Miscavige. Just
look at their great results!

Best Regards

        Jens

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Richard Ford  
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From: Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On 25 Oct, 07:46, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:

Babz...

Why not team up with the 'fake' Marty and grab a few assets from the
cult as it implodes?

You could both be very rich.


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Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!  
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From: "Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!" <arnaldole...@lermanet.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:13:48 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 2 Nov 2009 02:13
Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On Oct 24, 4:27 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:

> Barbara loves Marty wrote:

> > According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
> > infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

> > I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
> > infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
> > in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
> > to stay in power.

> > Barbara Schwarz

> Yes, that's correct.  Scn is dying, and the infiltrator
> groups are competing to take over the billions of assets
> which will become available to whoever takes over next.

 Or perhaps the US attorneys office, in consideration of size of the
US deficit and budget constraints, and the rumored size of the cash
still stashed in COS's coffers, may be eyeing the asset forfeture
statute, that awards the prosecuting office a percentage of the
recovered cash for operating expenses...

Or maybe the paragraph above will get one of the motivated...

arnie lerma


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Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!  
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From: "Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!" <arnaldole...@lermanet.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:15:10 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On Nov 1, 3:40 am, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Before my mom died, (she was once the HCOES of Fnd DC), she told me
this:

"Get some money out of those bastards while they still have some"
Gora P. Lerma


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Richard Ford  
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:47:59 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On 2 Nov, 02:15, "Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for 15 years!"

The cult must be mortgaged up to the hilt. It will be interesting to
see what happens when interest rates rise. They cannot even troll this
forum now and have withdrawn all commercial sponsorship.

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Voltaire's Child  
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From: "Voltaire's Child" <galgon...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:42:01 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On Oct 24, 11:09 am, Barbara loves Marty

<barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

> I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
> in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
> to stay in power.

> Barbara Schwarz

Who is going to bother to infiltrate the orgs. Are you out of your
mind .

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Mark Thorson  
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From: Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:34:51 -0800
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 01:34
Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....

Voltaire's Child wrote:

> On Oct 24, 11:09 am, Barbara loves Marty
> <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
> > infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

> > I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
> > infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
> > in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
> > to stay in power.

> Who is going to bother to infiltrate the orgs. Are you out of your
> mind .

Is Barbara out of her mind?  That's a question
which has been debated by experts for years.
Are you new to this field?

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Barbara loves Marty  
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 More options 8 Nov, 01:55
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From: Barbara loves Marty <StilllovingMa...@myway.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:55:27 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On Nov 1, 2:40 am, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Wonder who Babz is.

> Why not team up with the 'fake' Marty and grab a few assets from the
> cult as it implodes?

> You could both be very rich.

I don't need a partner to get rich. Also, getting rich is not my goal.
I want justice and truth.

I am not interested in money of the C of S. I am interested in that C
of S gets back to its roots as under L. Ron Hubbard.

And I am just interested in the original Marty not in anybody fake.

Barbara Schwarz

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Slarty  
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From: Slarty <thaddeus.sl...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:29:53 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On Oct 24, 8:09 am, Barbara loves Marty

<barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to other forums, C of S now saying that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists.

> I say this since decades. However, finally admitting that the orgs are
> infiltrated by non-Scientologists does not make all persons saying so
> in the orgs into Scientologists. Infiltrator might attack infiltrator
> to stay in power.

> Barbara Schwarz

I went in to an org, maby about a decade aago, and they had a new film
called the orientation film, or something, and the film that
scientology was infiltrated by government agents in the 80's.  It said
that in the film.  Hard to say how that would encourage people to
join; but the u.s. has been having problems with people seriouse about
freedom of religion since the 60's.

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Slarty  
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:32:06 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
 CoB

What's Cob?


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Voltaire's Child  
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From: "Voltaire's Child" <galgon...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:18:01 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: C of S now saying that the orgs are infiltrated....
On Oct 24, 4:27 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:

I am not in this field ... I am out of this world :) ... just put oil
in the fire ... ah all these cocky hateful Free Zoners ...

The best way to expose their hate is when they start attacking like
mad bulls.

Most are old folks with memory problems and no job ... the rest are
addicts .....

What is common between them is the hate ...


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