> On Oct 28, 6:19 am, Pat Kiewicz <pkiew...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > SkyEyes said:
> > >Anyone else here old enough to remember the polio epidemics of the > > >late 1940s and early 1950s? And how damn grateful we were to Jonas > > >Salk for inventing a vaccine to protect us? I'd like to see these > > >anti-vax nutcakes face down a polio epidemic while bad-mouthing > > >vaccines, I really would.
> > I'm old enough to remember the long, long, LONG lines of moms and kids > > for the polio vaccine when it first became available. Nobody doubted the > > need for it. Salk was a hero. Mass immunizations were welcome.
> > I remember the nurses would dab your arm with iodone (or some such), > > and that the one in my line (at least) offered to try to make it look like > > a teddy bear (or some other such thing) to try to ease the kids' anxiety.
> > When the oral polio vaccine came out, we were given that in school.
> > -- > > Pat K. aa#1154
> > "So, it was all a dream." > > "No dear, this is the dream, you're still in the cell."
> > email valid but not regularly monitored
> The is a lot of neo-con right wing media telling (scaring) their > viewers/listeners to stay away from the vaccine. I approve of that > message because it may cause a culling of the neo-con herd.
> I wonder how many conservatives needlessly suffered polio.
> It's simple. Are you going to trust the medical profession or the > entertainment/news profession? Who has the track record of being more > truthful?
Now you have asked a tough question. How many medical doctors endorsed smoking, X-rays, electroshock therapy, Librium, vein stripping for varicose veins, bleeding sick patients, the "Food Pyramid," the fluoroscope, Dr. Spock, the Tuskegee Experiment, race- based IQ, and on and on.
> On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > > > > > > is so small, > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk > > > when the risk is not known.
> > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
> > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
> > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> TCross
No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue what you are talking about.
As usual. --
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>On Oct 28, 7:14 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 28, 1:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 27, 9:06 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >On Oct 27, 2:46 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, >> >> >> >> > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination >> >> >> >> > > is so small, >> >> >> >> > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to >> >> >> >> > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. >> >> >> >> > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts >> >> >> >> > you to think humans would be immune?
>> >> >> >> Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are >> >> >> >> simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury >> >> >> >> in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans.
>> >> >> >Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers from >> >> >> >bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to kill >> >> >> >the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
>> >> >> Are you a bacterium?
>> >> >A human body is more fragile and less tolerant than a bacterium.
>> >> Then you must have never been in a swimming pool. After all, that >> >> chlorine which is sufficient to kill bacteria and algae must be >> >> instant death for you.
>> >> Moron.
>> >Your signature belongs at the bottom.
>> It is, moron. Your stupidity needs an education.
>The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >bacteria.
Try not to be so damn stupid.
> The excess available oxygen in >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>On Oct 28, 7:14?pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> Terry Cross ?<tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Oct 28, 1:33?am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> >> Terry Cross ?<tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >On Oct 27, 9:06 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> >> >> Terry Cross ?<tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >On Oct 27, 2:46 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >> > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >> > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, >>> >> >> >> > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination >>> >> >> >> > > is so small, >>> >> >> >> > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that >>> >> >> >> > attempt to >>> >> >> >> > grow in the vaccine. ?That is exactly how much it is, and no >>> >> >> >> > less. >>> >> >> >> > All living organisms are killed by mercury. ?What reasoning >>> >> >> >> > prompts >>> >> >> >> > you to think humans would be immune?
>>> >> >> >> Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute >>> >> >> >> doses are >>> >> >> >> simply flushed out of the system without harm. ?The doses of >>> >> >> >> mercury >>> >> >> >> in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans.
>>> >> >> >Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers >>> >> >> >from >>> >> >> >bacterial infestation. ?The quantity of mercury is sufficient to >>> >> >> >kill >>> >> >> >the bacteria. ?That is the definition of sufficiency.
>>> >> >> Are you a bacterium?
>>> >> >A human body is more fragile and less tolerant than a bacterium.
>>> >> Then you must have never been in a swimming pool. ?After all, that >>> >> chlorine which is sufficient to kill bacteria and algae must be >>> >> instant death for you.
>>> >> Moron.
>>> >Your signature belongs at the bottom.
>>> It is, moron. ?Your stupidity needs an education.
>>The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >>bacteria.
> Try not to be so damn stupid.
>> The excess available oxygen in >>hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >>can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >>chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
Mercury hasn't been used in vaccines in over a decade! However, if you don't want to use vaccine for yourself or your family, feel free to abstain from prevention. It's evolution at work. There'll be more vaccine to go around for sensible people, and dumb people will get sick and die, stopping the "dumb gene" in its tracks while the "smart gene" gets a pass. It'll also mean a lower population density, which is how Mother Nature did it in the good old days. No vaccine, enough people died early and often enough to prevent overpopulation. With vaccine, we're up to around seven billion people, which is about five billion too many. A good world wide plague is what the world needs, like the famous Spanish flu which killed between 20 and 40 million. P.S. As a footnote, medical science has never been able to vaccinate against a chronic virus, such as the AIDS virus. We're getting close. If we can defeat that one, it changes everything! -- http://folding.stanford.edu Save lives, visit today!
> >On Oct 28, 7:14 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 28, 1:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Oct 27, 9:06 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >On Oct 27, 2:46 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > >> >> >> >> > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > >> >> >> >> > > is so small, > >> >> >> >> > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > >> >> >> >> > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > >> >> >> >> > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > >> >> >> >> > you to think humans would be immune?
> >> >> >> >> Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > >> >> >> >> simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > >> >> >> >> in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans.
> >> >> >> >Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers from > >> >> >> >bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to kill > >> >> >> >the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> >> >> >> Are you a bacterium?
> >> >> >A human body is more fragile and less tolerant than a bacterium.
> >> >> Then you must have never been in a swimming pool. After all, that > >> >> chlorine which is sufficient to kill bacteria and algae must be > >> >> instant death for you.
> >> >> Moron.
> >> >Your signature belongs at the bottom.
> >> It is, moron. Your stupidity needs an education.
> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic > >bacteria.
> Try not to be so damn stupid.
> > The excess available oxygen in > >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria > >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of > >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
By far the most regular complaint of swimming pool owners is algae. This is because the algae is visible and unsightly. There are over 21,000 species of algae known to man but only a fraction of these are encountered in swimming pools.
Algae does not cause disease. It is a plant that turns sunlight and carbon dioxide into food and provides nutrients for bacteria which can then multiply rapidly (and may cause illness). When there is algae present in the pool water, the chlorine is used up rapidly trying to combat its growth. This process has a tendency to raise the pH, thus decreasing the efficiency of the remaining free chlorine.
Unchecked algae growth can turn the swimming pool cloudy or makes the pool water green and results in foul odours and tastes. Black algae, which is more difficult to control than green or blue-green algae, can also stain the swimming pool's walls and floor.
Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will prevent algae from growing out of control. When algae growth is noticed, it requires harsh treatment. Usually shock treatment with chlorine or an algaecide is recommended. If the pool has a mineral sanitiser such as the Pool Wizard installed, algae growth is a sign that you need a refill. Algae cannot grow in water sanitised with the Pool Wizard, provided the water is properly balanced.
More algae resources and discussions can be found at the Pool Algae Help Forum.
> > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>On Oct 28, 7:14?pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >>> Terry Cross ?<tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >On Oct 28, 1:33?am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >>> >> Terry Cross ?<tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >On Oct 27, 9:06 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >>> >> >> Terry Cross ?<tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> >On Oct 27, 2:46 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > >>> >> >> >> > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > >>> >> >> >> > > is so small, > >>> >> >> >> > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that > >>> >> >> >> > attempt to > >>> >> >> >> > grow in the vaccine. ?That is exactly how much it is, and no > >>> >> >> >> > less. > >>> >> >> >> > All living organisms are killed by mercury. ?What reasoning > >>> >> >> >> > prompts > >>> >> >> >> > you to think humans would be immune?
> >>> >> >> >> Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute > >>> >> >> >> doses are > >>> >> >> >> simply flushed out of the system without harm. ?The doses of > >>> >> >> >> mercury > >>> >> >> >> in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans.
> >>> >> >> >Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > >>> >> >> >from > >>> >> >> >bacterial infestation. ?The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > >>> >> >> >kill > >>> >> >> >the bacteria. ?That is the definition of sufficiency.
> >>> >> >> Are you a bacterium?
> >>> >> >A human body is more fragile and less tolerant than a bacterium.
> >>> >> Then you must have never been in a swimming pool. ?After all, that > >>> >> chlorine which is sufficient to kill bacteria and algae must be > >>> >> instant death for you.
> >>> >> Moron.
> >>> >Your signature belongs at the bottom.
> >>> It is, moron. ?Your stupidity needs an education.
> >>The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic > >>bacteria.
> > Try not to be so damn stupid.
> >> The excess available oxygen in > >>hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria > >>can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of > >>chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
> In article <874599f3-4d7f-49a1-8482-cbd55e0d1d72 > @m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > > > > > > > is so small, > > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? > > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. > > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> > > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to > > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the > > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not > > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk > > > > when the risk is not known.
> > > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the > > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least > > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather > > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children > > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
> > > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
> > > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> > Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> > TCross
> No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue > what you are talking about.
Preservatives in Vaccines
To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be defined as compounds that kill or prevent the growth of microorganisms, particularly bacteria and fungi. They are used in vaccines to prevent microbial growth in the event that the vaccine is accidentally contaminated, as might occur with repeated puncture of multi-dose vials. In some cases, preservatives are added during manufacture to prevent microbial growth; with changes in manufacturing technology, however, the need to add preservatives during the manufacturing process has decreased markedly.
On Nov 5, 3:34 am, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: ........
> Now you have asked a tough question. How many medical doctors > endorsed smoking, X-rays, electroshock therapy, Librium, vein > stripping for varicose veins, bleeding sick patients, the "Food > Pyramid," the fluoroscope, Dr. Spock, the Tuskegee Experiment, race- > based IQ, and on and on.
> TCross
Of course every profession has it's Dr. Nick, but when the whole medical community speaks as a collective, when have they failed big time? They certainly haven't failed as much as the news media who fell lock step behind Mr. Bush's lies which created the Iraq war.
Yes cigarette companies bought off a number of doctors, other treatments were experimental, but there is nothing in the history of vaccines that hasn't shown they have been extremely beneficial.
> On Nov 5, 3:34 am, Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > ........
> > Now you have asked a tough question. How many medical doctors > > endorsed smoking, X-rays, electroshock therapy, Librium, vein > > stripping for varicose veins, bleeding sick patients, the "Food > > Pyramid," the fluoroscope, Dr. Spock, the Tuskegee Experiment, race- > > based IQ, and on and on.
> > TCross
> Of course every profession has it's Dr. Nick, but when the whole > medical community speaks as a collective, when have they failed big > time?
... smoking tobacco, X-rays, electroshock therapy, Librium, vein stripping for varicose veins, bleeding sick patients, the "Food Pyramid," the fluoroscope, Dr. Spock, the Tuskegee Experiment, race- based IQ, mercury in remedies, immobilization and/or general anesthetic for childbirth, hysterectomy as treatment for anxiety, wholesale tonsillectomies, and on and on.
TCross
They certainly haven't failed as much as the news media who
> fell lock step behind Mr. Bush's lies which created the Iraq war.
> Yes cigarette companies bought off a number of doctors, other > treatments were experimental, but there is nothing in the history of > vaccines that hasn't shown they have been extremely beneficial.
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:11:32 -0800 (PST), Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 7:33?pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >> > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: >> > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, >> > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination >> > > > > is so small, >> > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to >> > > > grow in the vaccine. ?That is exactly how much it is, and no less. >> > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. ?What reasoning prompts >> > > > you to think humans would be immune? >> > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are >> > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. ?The doses of mercury >> > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. >> > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers >> > from bacterial infestation. ?The quantity of mercury is sufficient to >> > kill the bacteria. ?That is the definition of sufficiency.
>> > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to >> > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the >> > liver, or produce mild brain damage? ?Again, the quantity is not >> > established. ?You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk >> > when the risk is not known.
>> > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? ?With the >> > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? ?Or at least >> > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather >> > than risk bacterial infection? ?The necessity for injecting children >> > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
>> Congratulations. ?Three paragraphs of word salad.
>> You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> TCross
He's a bit more cogent than you've ever come across as, anonymous coward. The wife and I can testify to that over the last decade and change we've known him and his.
-- Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 4, Manitoba 1 (November 5) NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
> On Nov 5, 12:36 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > In article <874599f3-4d7f-49a1-8482-cbd55e0d1d72 > > @m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> > > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > > > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > > > > > > > > is so small, > > > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > > > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > > > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > > > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? > > > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > > > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > > > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. > > > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > > > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > > > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> > > > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to > > > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the > > > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not > > > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk > > > > > when the risk is not known.
> > > > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the > > > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least > > > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather > > > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children > > > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
> > > > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
> > > > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> > > Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> > > TCross
> > No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue > > what you are talking about.
> Preservatives in Vaccines
> To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and > why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be > defined as compounds that kill or prevent the growth of > microorganisms, particularly bacteria and fungi. They are used in > vaccines to prevent microbial growth in the event that the vaccine is > accidentally contaminated, as might occur with repeated puncture of > multi-dose vials. In some cases, preservatives are added during > manufacture to prevent microbial growth; with changes in manufacturing > technology, however, the need to add preservatives during the > manufacturing process has decreased markedly.
Nice job of picking and choosing a part of that article. But like all kooktards, you ignore the inconveniently non supportive to your agenda parts, like the one below:
Thimerosal as a Preservative
Thimerosal, which is approximately 50% mercury by weight, has been one of the most widely used preservatives in vaccines. It is metabolized or degraded to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Ethylmercury is an organomercurial that should be distinguished from methylmercury, a related substance that has been the focus of considerable study (see "Guidelines on Exposure to Organomercurials" and "Thimerosal Toxicity", below).
At concentrations found in vaccines, thimerosal meets the requirements for a preservative as set forth by the United States Pharmacopeia; that is, it kills the specified challenge organisms and is able to prevent the growth of the challenge fungi (U.S. Pharmacopeia 2004). Thimerosal in concentrations of 0.001% (1 part in 100,000) to 0.01% (1 part in 10,000) has been shown to be effective in clearing a broad spectrum of pathogens. A vaccine containing 0.01% thimerosal as a preservative contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5 mL dose.
Prior to its introduction in the 1930's, data were available in several animal species and humans providing evidence for its safety and effectiveness as a preservative (Powell and Jamieson 1931). Since then, thimerosal has been the subject of several studies (see Bibliography) and has a long record of safe and effective use preventing bacterial and fungal contamination of vaccines, with no ill effects established other than minor local reactions at the site of injection.
The stuff's been used almost 80 years, and suddenly, it starts doing all kinds of crazy stuff?
Highly unlikely. As are virtually all kooktardic claims.
--
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>On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >> >bacteria.
>> Try not to be so damn stupid.
>> > The excess available oxygen in >> >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >> >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >> >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
>> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
>All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted...
[...]
>Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will >prevent algae from growing out of control.
>On Nov 5, 12:36 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: >> In article <874599f3-4d7f-49a1-8482-cbd55e0d1d72 >> @m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
>> > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >> > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >> > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, >> > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination >> > > > > > > is so small, >> > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to >> > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. >> > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts >> > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? >> > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are >> > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury >> > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. >> > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers >> > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to >> > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
>> > > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to >> > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the >> > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not >> > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk >> > > > when the risk is not known.
>> > > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the >> > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least >> > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather >> > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children >> > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
>> > > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
>> > > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
>> > Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
>> > TCross
>> No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue >> what you are talking about.
>Preservatives in Vaccines
>To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and >why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be
> >On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic > >> >bacteria.
> >> Try not to be so damn stupid.
> >> > The excess available oxygen in > >> >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria > >> >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of > >> >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
> >> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
> >All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted...
> [...]
> >Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will > >prevent algae from growing out of control.
> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING"
> Stupid asshole.
You have truly a remarkable and unique signature. Appropriate, too.
If Chlorine truly prevented algae, you would not have so many entries in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results 1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 seconds)
The use of specialty chemicals or algaecides is recommended to provide a back up to normal sanitation and filtration processes and is completely necessary for many pools. These chemicals are described below:
Potassium Tetraborate: This chemical, when added to the pool water in proper dosage, prevents algae from converting carbon dioxide into the fuel it needs for growth. Manufactured under the trade name Proteam Supreme. An extraordinary product.
Chitin: Not an algaecide (meaning to kill algae) per se, but its properties might be called algaestatic (that is, to prevent algae growth). Chitin has the ability to coagulate and remove a wide variety of suspended materials and impurities from the water. This allows the sanitizer to more effectively kill contaminants unobstructed. It also improves the effectiveness of the filtration equipment. Sold under the trade name Sea-Klear, chitin can be a valuable weapon in your algae arsenal.
Algaecides and Algaestats:
1. Quaternary Ammonium Compounds: A low grade type of algaecide, Quats, as they are called, will usually have "10" somewhere on the bottle, representing 10% active ingredient. Although available at a lower cost, quats tend to produce a small amount of surface foaming. They are most effective as an algaestat, that is, as a prevention, not a cure.
2. Polymers: Polymers are long, complicated chemical chains that behave in water both as an algaestat and an algaecide. They are available in percentage strength of 30 - 60%, are non foaming, and work well as general, all around algae treatments. Poly-Quats are a blended compound of polymer and quats.
3. Copper Based: Copper is a proven algaecide and algaestat. Available in varying non foaming strength of 3 - 10%. It works very well on all types of algae, but it has the drawback of staining white plaster surfaces a light blue/green color if it precipitates out of solution. Most copper based algaecides are chelated, which means that agents have been added to prevent this, such as Lo-Chlor Algaecide.
4. Silver Based: Silver has been shown to be an effective bacteriostat, which means that it works to prevent bacteria from reproducing. Non foaming and effective with pink algae. In high doses, reactions with sunlight can cause colloidal silver to deposit as black stains on white plaster. When using copper or silver algaecides, the use of a sequestering agent is recommended.
Chlorine Enhancers: These are not algaecides, but work to provide a synergistic boost to hypochlorites when added separately, but at the same time. Sold under trade names like Mustard Buster, Yellow-Out or Yellow Treat, it is most effective on, you guessed it, yellow algae. Since it is not an algaecide, the makers are not required to tell what it is made of, but we do know that it works quite well, in conjunction with a little brushing and vacuuming on your part.
> In article <7822b9ce-1e16-435b-8d6e- > c45a7277d...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> > On Nov 5, 12:36 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > In article <874599f3-4d7f-49a1-8482-cbd55e0d1d72 > > > @m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> > > > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > > > > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > > > > > > > > > is so small, > > > > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > > > > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > > > > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > > > > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? > > > > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > > > > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > > > > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. > > > > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > > > > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > > > > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> > > > > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to > > > > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the > > > > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not > > > > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk > > > > > > when the risk is not known.
> > > > > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the > > > > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least > > > > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather > > > > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children > > > > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
> > > > > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
> > > > > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> > > > Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> > > > TCross
> > > No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue > > > what you are talking about.
> > Preservatives in Vaccines
> > To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and > > why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be > > defined as compounds that kill or prevent the growth of > > microorganisms, particularly bacteria and fungi. They are used in > > vaccines to prevent microbial growth in the event that the vaccine is > > accidentally contaminated, as might occur with repeated puncture of > > multi-dose vials. In some cases, preservatives are added during > > manufacture to prevent microbial growth; with changes in manufacturing > > technology, however, the need to add preservatives during the > > manufacturing process has decreased markedly.
> Nice job of picking and choosing a part of that article. But like all > kooktards, you ignore the inconveniently non supportive to your agenda > parts, like the one below:
> Thimerosal as a Preservative
> Thimerosal, which is approximately 50% mercury by weight, has been one > of the most widely used preservatives in vaccines. It is metabolized or > degraded to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Ethylmercury is an > organomercurial that should be distinguished from methylmercury, a > related substance that has been the focus of considerable study (see > "Guidelines on Exposure to Organomercurials" and "Thimerosal Toxicity", > below).
> At concentrations found in vaccines, thimerosal meets the requirements > for a preservative as set forth by the United States Pharmacopeia; that > is, it kills the specified challenge organisms and is able to prevent > the growth of the challenge fungi (U.S. Pharmacopeia 2004). Thimerosal > in concentrations of 0.001% (1 part in 100,000) to 0.01% (1 part in > 10,000) has been shown to be effective in clearing a broad spectrum of > pathogens. A vaccine containing 0.01% thimerosal as a preservative > contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 > micrograms of mercury per 0.5 mL dose.
> Prior to its introduction in the 1930's, data were available in several > animal species and humans providing evidence for its safety and > effectiveness as a preservative (Powell and Jamieson 1931). Since then, > thimerosal has been the subject of several studies (see Bibliography) > and has a long record of safe and effective use preventing bacterial and > fungal contamination of vaccines, with no ill effects established other > than minor local reactions at the site of injection.
> The stuff's been used almost 80 years, and suddenly, it starts doing all > kinds of crazy stuff?
Mercury is a cumulative poison. Environmental mercury has increased in the last 70 years. The number of vaccines prescribed for children has multiplied, and many of those contained mercury. Mercury would still be used in tooth fillings for another 70 years, and the incidence of childhood tooth caries (and hence mercury exposure) increased dramatically in the decades following that 1931 study, also increasing the individual's cumulative dosage of mercury.
As the dosage of mercury increases, so does the likelihood of harm. There comes a point where the dosage crosses the threshold from potential to harmful. If your patient comes to you with borderline poisoning, and you give her yet another shot of mercury, you have a problem.
Citing a 1931 study in toxins is shameful. Methods of analysis and observation have improved, environment has changed, and medical philosophy has changed. Medical studies in the 1930s were still proving that tobacco was harmless and Niggers were born to be servants of White folks.
Without doubt, on a subject this controversial, many more recent studies could have been quoted. Why does the FDA go all the way back to 1931? Was nothing more recent favorable to its agenda?
> >On Nov 5, 12:36 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > >> In article <874599f3-4d7f-49a1-8482-cbd55e0d1d72 > >> @m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> >> > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > >> > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > >> > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > >> > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > >> > > > > > > is so small, > >> > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > >> > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > >> > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > >> > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? > >> > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > >> > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > >> > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. > >> > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > >> > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > >> > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> >> > > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to > >> > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the > >> > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not > >> > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk > >> > > > when the risk is not known.
> >> > > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the > >> > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least > >> > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather > >> > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children > >> > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
> >> > > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
> >> > > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> >> > Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> >> > TCross
> >> No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue > >> what you are talking about.
> >Preservatives in Vaccines
> >To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and > >why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be
> Why do you want to see people die?
How many people have died from swine flu to date? Cite your sources.
>On Nov 5, 11:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >> >> >bacteria.
>> >> Try not to be so damn stupid.
>> >> > The excess available oxygen in >> >> >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >> >> >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >> >> >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
>> >> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
>> >All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
>> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted...
>> [...]
>> >Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will >> >prevent algae from growing out of control.
>> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING"
>> Stupid asshole.
>You have truly a remarkable and unique signature.
Q.E.D.
>If Chlorine truly prevented algae,
Like the article you cited shows.
> you would not have so many entries >in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results >1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 >seconds)
Look up "alien abduction" on Google sometime, moron.
>On Nov 5, 11:18 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and >> >why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be
>> Why do you want to see people die?
>How many people have died from swine flu to date?
> On Nov 5, 10:53 pm, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > In article <7822b9ce-1e16-435b-8d6e- > > c45a7277d...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> > > On Nov 5, 12:36 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > > In article <874599f3-4d7f-49a1-8482-cbd55e0d1d72 > > > > @m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tcros...@hotmail.com says...
> > > > > On Nov 4, 7:33 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Spartakus<sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, > > > > > > > > > > the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination > > > > > > > > > > is so small, > > > > > > > > > The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to > > > > > > > > > grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. > > > > > > > > > All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts > > > > > > > > > you to think humans would be immune? > > > > > > > > Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are > > > > > > > > simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury > > > > > > > > in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. > > > > > > > Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers > > > > > > > from bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to > > > > > > > kill the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency.
> > > > > > > Given the assuredness of lethal dosage, what quantity is sufficient to > > > > > > > just inhibit the formation of myelin sheathing in children, damage the > > > > > > > liver, or produce mild brain damage? Again, the quantity is not > > > > > > > established. You are highly irresponsible to claim there is no risk > > > > > > > when the risk is not known.
> > > > > > > Why not produce vaccines in single-dose packages? With the > > > > > > > technology for mass-production, what is the big deal? Or at least > > > > > > > discard the multi-dose containers at the end of each day, rather > > > > > > > than risk bacterial infection? The necessity for injecting children > > > > > > > with mercury has never been satisfactorily established.
> > > > > > Congratulations. Three paragraphs of word salad.
> > > > > > You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about, do you?
> > > > > Evidently you don't. Have someone read it to you and explain.
> > > > > TCross
> > > > No need to. He's right, you really don't seem to have the slightest clue > > > > what you are talking about.
> > > Preservatives in Vaccines
> > > To begin, we need to answer two questions-what are preservatives and > > > why are they used in vaccines. For our purposes, preservatives may be > > > defined as compounds that kill or prevent the growth of > > > microorganisms, particularly bacteria and fungi. They are used in > > > vaccines to prevent microbial growth in the event that the vaccine is > > > accidentally contaminated, as might occur with repeated puncture of > > > multi-dose vials. In some cases, preservatives are added during > > > manufacture to prevent microbial growth; with changes in manufacturing > > > technology, however, the need to add preservatives during the > > > manufacturing process has decreased markedly.
> > Nice job of picking and choosing a part of that article. But like all > > kooktards, you ignore the inconveniently non supportive to your agenda > > parts, like the one below:
> > Thimerosal as a Preservative
> > Thimerosal, which is approximately 50% mercury by weight, has been one > > of the most widely used preservatives in vaccines. It is metabolized or > > degraded to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Ethylmercury is an > > organomercurial that should be distinguished from methylmercury, a > > related substance that has been the focus of considerable study (see > > "Guidelines on Exposure to Organomercurials" and "Thimerosal Toxicity", > > below).
> > At concentrations found in vaccines, thimerosal meets the requirements > > for a preservative as set forth by the United States Pharmacopeia; that > > is, it kills the specified challenge organisms and is able to prevent > > the growth of the challenge fungi (U.S. Pharmacopeia 2004). Thimerosal > > in concentrations of 0.001% (1 part in 100,000) to 0.01% (1 part in > > 10,000) has been shown to be effective in clearing a broad spectrum of > > pathogens. A vaccine containing 0.01% thimerosal as a preservative > > contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 > > micrograms of mercury per 0.5 mL dose.
> > Prior to its introduction in the 1930's, data were available in several > > animal species and humans providing evidence for its safety and > > effectiveness as a preservative (Powell and Jamieson 1931). Since then, > > thimerosal has been the subject of several studies (see Bibliography) > > and has a long record of safe and effective use preventing bacterial and > > fungal contamination of vaccines, with no ill effects established other > > than minor local reactions at the site of injection.
> > The stuff's been used almost 80 years, and suddenly, it starts doing all > > kinds of crazy stuff?
> Mercury is a cumulative poison. Environmental mercury has increased > in the last 70 years. The number of vaccines prescribed for children > has multiplied, and many of those contained mercury. Mercury would > still be used in tooth fillings for another 70 years, and the > incidence of childhood tooth caries (and hence mercury exposure) > increased dramatically in the decades following that 1931 study, also > increasing the individual's cumulative dosage of mercury.
> As the dosage of mercury increases, so does the likelihood of harm. > There comes a point where the dosage crosses the threshold from > potential to harmful. If your patient comes to you with borderline > poisoning, and you give her yet another shot of mercury, you have a > problem.
> Citing a 1931 study in toxins is shameful. Methods of analysis and > observation have improved, environment has changed, and medical > philosophy has changed. Medical studies in the 1930s were still > proving that tobacco was harmless and Niggers were born to be servants > of White folks.
> Without doubt, on a subject this controversial, many more recent > studies could have been quoted. Why does the FDA go all the way back > to 1931? Was nothing more recent favorable to its agenda?
> TCross
BWHAHAHA! Your reading comprehension leaves a great deal to be desired.
You're totally clueless. --
BDK.. Leader of the nonexistent paid shills. Non Jew Jew Club founding member. Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
> >On Nov 5, 11:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic > >> >> >bacteria.
> >> >> Try not to be so damn stupid.
> >> >> > The excess available oxygen in > >> >> >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria > >> >> >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of > >> >> >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
> >> >> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
> >> >All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
> >> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted...
> >> [...]
> >> >Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will > >> >prevent algae from growing out of control.
> >> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING"
> >> Stupid asshole.
> >You have truly a remarkable and unique signature.
> Q.E.D.
> >If Chlorine truly prevented algae,
> Like the article you cited shows.
> > you would not have so many entries > >in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results > >1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 > >seconds)
> Look up "alien abduction" on Google sometime,
> moron.
Again with the imaginative signature? Such a case.
I take it then, that anyone who complains of algae in her swimming pool is as crazy as a UFO abductee? This is evidence only that you have never owned a swimming pool. And if you do, you will be too childish to maintain it.
Terry Cross wrote: > On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 28, 7:14 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Oct 28, 1:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Oct 27, 9:06 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>>>>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2:46 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> The claims about thimerosol are ridiculous anyway, >>>>>>>>>>>> the tiny, tiny bit of mercury a kid gets in a vaccination >>>>>>>>>>>> is so small, >>>>>>>>>>> The amount is sufficient to kill the range of bacteria that attempt to >>>>>>>>>>> grow in the vaccine. That is exactly how much it is, and no less. >>>>>>>>>>> All living organisms are killed by mercury. What reasoning prompts >>>>>>>>>>> you to think humans would be immune? >>>>>>>>>> Humans are exposed to mercury all the time and these minute doses are >>>>>>>>>> simply flushed out of the system without harm. The doses of mercury >>>>>>>>>> in vaccines aren't nearly enough to harm humans. >>>>>>>>> Mercury is added vaccines to preserve the multi-dose containers from >>>>>>>>> bacterial infestation. The quantity of mercury is sufficient to kill >>>>>>>>> the bacteria. That is the definition of sufficiency. >>>>>>>> Are you a bacterium? >>>>>>> A human body is more fragile and less tolerant than a bacterium. >>>>>> Then you must have never been in a swimming pool. After all, that >>>>>> chlorine which is sufficient to kill bacteria and algae must be >>>>>> instant death for you. >>>>>> Moron. >>>>> Your signature belongs at the bottom. >>>> It is, moron. Your stupidity needs an education. >>> The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >>> bacteria. >> Try not to be so damn stupid.
>>> The excess available oxygen in >>> hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >>> can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >>> chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you? >> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
> All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
> By far the most regular complaint of swimming pool owners is algae. > This is because the algae is visible and unsightly. There are over > 21,000 species of algae known to man but only a fraction of these are > encountered in swimming pools.
> Algae does not cause disease. It is a plant that turns sunlight and > carbon dioxide into food and provides nutrients for bacteria which can > then multiply rapidly (and may cause illness). When there is algae > present in the pool water, the chlorine is used up rapidly trying to > combat its growth. This process has a tendency to raise the pH, thus > decreasing the efficiency of the remaining free chlorine.
> Unchecked algae growth can turn the swimming pool cloudy or makes the > pool water green and results in foul odours and tastes. Black algae, > which is more difficult to control than green or blue-green algae, can > also stain the swimming pool's walls and floor.
> Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will > prevent algae from growing out of control. When algae growth is > noticed, it requires harsh treatment. Usually shock treatment with > chlorine or an algaecide is recommended. If the pool has a mineral > sanitiser such as the Pool Wizard installed, algae growth is a sign > that you need a refill. Algae cannot grow in water sanitised with the > Pool Wizard, provided the water is properly balanced.
> More algae resources and discussions can be found at the Pool Algae > Help Forum.
I own a swimming pool and I know for a fact that chlorine stops algae from growing.
If your pool is growing algae, it's time to check the water- balance the pH and put more chlorine in.. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin)
Terry Cross wrote: > On Nov 6, 8:47 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 5, 11:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >>>>>>> bacteria. >>>>>> Try not to be so damn stupid. >>>>>>> The excess available oxygen in >>>>>>> hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >>>>>>> can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >>>>>>> chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you? >>>>>> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool? >>>>> All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example: >>>> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted... >>>> [...] >>>>> Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will >>>>> prevent algae from growing out of control. >>>> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING" >>>> Stupid asshole. >>> You have truly a remarkable and unique signature. >> Q.E.D.
>>> If Chlorine truly prevented algae, >> Like the article you cited shows.
>>> you would not have so many entries >>> in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results >>> 1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 >>> seconds) >> Look up "alien abduction" on Google sometime,
>> moron.
> Again with the imaginative signature? Such a case.
> I take it then, that anyone who complains of algae in her swimming > pool is as crazy as a UFO abductee? This is evidence only that you > have never owned a swimming pool. And if you do, you will be too > childish to maintain it.
Anyone who complains of algae problems either has an infestation caused by not using chlorine from the start, or their water pH is too acidic/alkaline.
Learn what alkaline (above pH 8.0) does to chlorinated water. How about you read the articles you are citing? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.12 (Darwin)
>On Nov 6, 8:47 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 5, 11:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >> >> >> >bacteria.
>> >> >> Try not to be so damn stupid.
>> >> >> > The excess available oxygen in >> >> >> >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >> >> >> >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >> >> >> >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
>> >> >> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
>> >> >All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
>> >> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted...
>> >> [...]
>> >> >Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will >> >> >prevent algae from growing out of control.
>> >> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING"
>> >> Stupid asshole.
>> >You have truly a remarkable and unique signature.
>> Q.E.D.
>> >If Chlorine truly prevented algae,
>> Like the article you cited shows.
>> > you would not have so many entries >> >in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results >> >1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 >> >seconds)
>> Look up "alien abduction" on Google sometime,
>> moron.
>I take it then, that anyone who complains of algae in her swimming >pool is as crazy as a UFO abductee?
LOL! You're really getting desperate, aren't you?
>Read the Wiki on pool problems that real people experience.
People who don't put enough chlorine in their pools, moron?
>Terry Cross wrote: >> On Nov 6, 8:47 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 5, 11:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>>>>> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic >>>>>>>> bacteria. >>>>>>> Try not to be so damn stupid. >>>>>>>> The excess available oxygen in >>>>>>>> hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria >>>>>>>> can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of >>>>>>>> chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you? >>>>>>> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool? >>>>>> All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example: >>>>> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted... >>>>> [...] >>>>>> Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will >>>>>> prevent algae from growing out of control. >>>>> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING" >>>>> Stupid asshole. >>>> You have truly a remarkable and unique signature. >>> Q.E.D.
>>>> If Chlorine truly prevented algae, >>> Like the article you cited shows.
>>>> you would not have so many entries >>>> in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results >>>> 1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 >>>> seconds) >>> Look up "alien abduction" on Google sometime,
>>> moron.
>> Again with the imaginative signature? Such a case.
>> I take it then, that anyone who complains of algae in her swimming >> pool is as crazy as a UFO abductee? This is evidence only that you >> have never owned a swimming pool. And if you do, you will be too >> childish to maintain it.
>> TCross >Anyone who complains of algae problems either has an infestation caused >by not using chlorine from the start, or their water pH is too >acidic/alkaline.
>Learn what alkaline (above pH 8.0) does to chlorinated water. How about >you read the articles you are citing?
He DOESN'T read. He's just a mindless knee-jerk idiot who latches onto these irrational cults.
> >On Nov 6, 8:47 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Nov 5, 11:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Nov 5, 8:15 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> >> >> Terry Cross <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >The chlorine in swimming pools is useful for killing only anaerobic > >> >> >> >bacteria.
> >> >> >> Try not to be so damn stupid.
> >> >> >> > The excess available oxygen in > >> >> >> >hypochlorous acid kills primarily Escherichia coli. Other bacteria > >> >> >> >can survive in chlorinated water. Algae grow regardless of > >> >> >> >chlorination -- you've never owned a swimming pool, have you?
> >> >> >> Algae grow in a chlorinated pool?
> >> >> >All the time. Read about it anywhere. For example:
> >> >> Let's skip to the relevant sentence in what you quoted...
> >> >> [...]
> >> >> >Prevention is better than cure. Adequate levels of free chlorine will > >> >> >prevent algae from growing out of control.
> >> >> "CHLORINE WILL PREVENT ALGAE FROM GROWING"
> >> >> Stupid asshole.
> >> >You have truly a remarkable and unique signature.
> >> Q.E.D.
> >> >If Chlorine truly prevented algae,
> >> Like the article you cited shows.
> >> > you would not have so many entries > >> >in Google on the subject. However, this is Google's answer: Results > >> >1 - 10 of about 464,000 for "swimming pool algae problems." (0.25 > >> >seconds)
> >> Look up "alien abduction" on Google sometime,
> >> moron.
> >I take it then, that anyone who complains of algae in her swimming > >pool is as crazy as a UFO abductee?
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