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  <title type="text">alt.radio.digital Google Group</title>
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  Digital radio signals.
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  <updated>2009-12-18T00:22:02Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>J G Miller</name>
  <email>mil...@yoyo.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-18T00:22:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/31f28c7a7cb4fd13?show_docid=31f28c7a7cb4fd13</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: First 4G LTE network launched</title>
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  No your conclusion from your observation is invalid. ITV Digital did not &lt;br&gt; go bankrupt because it was not popular. &lt;br&gt; The appeal of pay TV in the UKofGB&amp;amp;NI is demonstrated by the millions who &lt;br&gt; pay B$kyB up to GBP 400 per year or more for the privilege of watching &lt;br&gt; programs which used to be available by terrestrial broadcasters as well
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  <author>
  <name>DAB sounds worse than FM</name>
  <email>dab...@fooked.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-18T00:11:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/7f192c07d34d082b/8d4c6d02550eedee?show_docid=8d4c6d02550eedee</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/7f192c07d34d082b/8d4c6d02550eedee?show_docid=8d4c6d02550eedee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: End of London L-Band test transmission.</title>
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  They must have found out that DAB was shit on day 1, then they spent the &lt;br&gt; next few years seeing if they could improve it, and they&#39;ve just realised &lt;br&gt; that it&#39;s inherently shit so they&#39;ve called it a day.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Brock Bailey</name>
  <email>brbai...@shawremovethis.ca</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-17T22:07:38Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/af752307543e0e34/ad8325371aa72685?show_docid=ad8325371aa72685</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/af752307543e0e34/ad8325371aa72685?show_docid=ad8325371aa72685"/>
  <title type="text">Pll fm radio transmitters from china comments wanted</title>
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  Hi Guys &lt;br&gt; does anyone have any experance with thoose pll fm radio tramsitters from &lt;br&gt; china made by hills? Verioues units being sold on ebay ..comments welcome &lt;br&gt; ..they also have digital ,low power and strareo units etc... &lt;br&gt; Id like comments from people and imput, &lt;br&gt; Thanks, &lt;br&gt; Brock Bailey &lt;br&gt; Victoria BC Canda &lt;br&gt; brbai...@shaw.ca
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  <author>
  <name>Richard Evans</name>
  <email>rp.evans.nos...@tiscali.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-17T20:58:17Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/7f192c07d34d082b/273c92d001c17ae2?show_docid=273c92d001c17ae2"/>
  <title type="text">End of London L-Band test transmission.</title>
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  According to Worhort this has now ceased. &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;Sarcasm mode&amp;gt;Well I must say that was a very long experiment, I wonder &lt;br&gt; whether they found anything interesting.&amp;lt;/Sarcasm mode&amp;gt;
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  <author>
  <name>hwh</name>
  <email>iimeel...@hotmail.com.nospam</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-17T20:19:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/93981407efe1bf4b?show_docid=93981407efe1bf4b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/93981407efe1bf4b?show_docid=93981407efe1bf4b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: First 4G LTE network launched</title>
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  That&#39;s what I said...it just means speeds go up, and after some time &lt;br&gt; more devices will be using more speed, benefiting others. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m not surprised. All over Europe networks will soon be able to choose &lt;br&gt; the technology thay want to use on their assigned frequencies. &lt;br&gt; It doesn&#39;t really matter. It means mobile IP-based communication. You
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Richard Evans</name>
  <email>rp.evans.nos...@tiscali.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-17T18:02:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/a32eeaf44b62e3d6?show_docid=a32eeaf44b62e3d6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/a32eeaf44b62e3d6?show_docid=a32eeaf44b62e3d6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: First 4G LTE network launched</title>
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  I think it will become possible to get better deals than that. Bearing &lt;br&gt; in mind that it is a very competitive market, mobile operators will want &lt;br&gt; to make their packages as attractive as reasonably possible. &lt;br&gt; At the moment, they are limited in what they can offer, using 3G &lt;br&gt; technology, and also since they haven&#39;t finished building out the
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  <author>
  <name>davidrobinson@postmaster.co.uk</name>
  <email>davidrobin...@postmaster.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-17T14:06:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/2e4abfdef5493374/363feec76eb4dd8e?show_docid=363feec76eb4dd8e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/2e4abfdef5493374/363feec76eb4dd8e?show_docid=363feec76eb4dd8e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: James Cridland on Radio 4</title>
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  Thanks. &lt;br&gt; (Seems the ability to link to a given moment in a programme is only on &lt;br&gt; iPlayer TV, not iPlayer radio. Quite an omission!) &lt;br&gt; Cheers, &lt;br&gt; David.
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  <author>
  <name>davidrobinson@postmaster.co.uk</name>
  <email>davidrobin...@postmaster.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-17T13:41:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9bfacee4777c3115/4836b847b5bdb4e9?show_docid=4836b847b5bdb4e9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9bfacee4777c3115/4836b847b5bdb4e9?show_docid=4836b847b5bdb4e9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: James Liar Cridland &quot;radio futurologist&quot; who can&#39;t even see the</title>
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  Eye-tracked motion blur is a problem with most modern displays - &lt;br&gt; whether they&#39;re displaying HD or SD. &lt;br&gt; It&#39;s not present in the signal though. You can look at individual &lt;br&gt; frames, or (shock) watch the video on a CRT to verify that. &lt;br&gt; Cheers, &lt;br&gt; David.
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  <author>
  <name>Anders</name>
  <email>tilsy...@europe.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-17T11:22:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/5ead68ee8be3fa57?show_docid=5ead68ee8be3fa57</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/5ead68ee8be3fa57?show_docid=5ead68ee8be3fa57"/>
  <title type="text">Re: First 4G LTE network launched</title>
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  &amp;quot;Kristoff Bonne&amp;quot; &amp;lt;skypro...@kristoff.bonne&amp;gt; skrev i melding &lt;br&gt; Due to the high cost of new digital infrastructure, it is important to find &lt;br&gt; grand revenue for network operations. And while conventional broadcasting &lt;br&gt; can not charge for anything more than - broadcasting - the network &lt;br&gt; operations is a high risk job. When you can charge for the network - either
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Anders</name>
  <email>tilsy...@europe.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-17T11:04:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/22e572335379c303/b878688493d87f16?show_docid=b878688493d87f16</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/22e572335379c303/b878688493d87f16?show_docid=b878688493d87f16"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Grant Goddard on Internet radio</title>
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  &amp;quot;DAB sounds worse than FM&amp;quot; &amp;lt;dab...@fooked.com&amp;gt; skrev i melding &lt;br&gt; Almost like the newspapers said 12 years ago: &lt;br&gt; Internet is like a blow of the wind. It will not happend. &lt;br&gt; 12 years later, lot of newspapers need to close because they&#39;re not on the &lt;br&gt; internet. Same will happen to broadcasting, broadcasting will be replaced by
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Kristoff Bonne</name>
  <email>skypro...@kristoff.bonne</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-16T22:29:51Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/4de0a8f3143b390b?show_docid=4de0a8f3143b390b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: First 4G LTE network launched</title>
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  Hi, &lt;br&gt; hwh schreef: &lt;br&gt; Oh. Hold on. Wait a minute! &lt;br&gt; Moving from HSDPA 7,2 Mbps to 14,4 Mbps technology does not at all mean &lt;br&gt; that you double the total capacity of your cell. &lt;br&gt; 3G works with multiple modulation-scemes depending on the quality of the &lt;br&gt; radio-link (QPSK, QAM-4, QAM-16, ...). This means that if you are closer
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  <author>
  <name>Krypsis</name>
  <email>kryp...@optusnet.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-16T19:39:05Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/50a07efe1c380e56/3d74bc29d8a47e7a?show_docid=3d74bc29d8a47e7a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/50a07efe1c380e56/3d74bc29d8a47e7a?show_docid=3d74bc29d8a47e7a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: OT: HDTV test transmission started.</title>
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  Silk wrote: &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ll stick with my 70 cm CRT until they sort this mess out! &lt;br&gt; Krypsis
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>hwh</name>
  <email>iimeel...@hotmail.com.nospam</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-16T19:35:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9bfacee4777c3115/924b824c0fb24992?show_docid=924b824c0fb24992</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9bfacee4777c3115/924b824c0fb24992?show_docid=924b824c0fb24992"/>
  <title type="text">Re: James Liar Cridland &quot;radio futurologist&quot; who can&#39;t even see the</title>
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  You might have seen a TV where the use of special imaging technology &lt;br&gt; (every manufacturer uses one like pixel plus) messed up. They frequently &lt;br&gt; do, if they are set to high levels. &lt;br&gt; gr, hwh
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>hwh</name>
  <email>iimeel...@hotmail.com.nospam</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-16T19:29:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/1b6ca15543b552f6?show_docid=1b6ca15543b552f6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/acafc5a2b186cf0d/1b6ca15543b552f6?show_docid=1b6ca15543b552f6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: First 4G LTE network launched</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  (rest snipped to save space) &lt;br&gt; Mobile internet might not be developing as fast as some of the &lt;br&gt; manufacturers of mobile technology are claiming, fact is that is is &lt;br&gt; developing rapidly. KPN in the Netherlands has recently started to roll &lt;br&gt; out an upgrade to 14,4 Mbps (from 7,2) on its HSDPA network. This is per
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>DAB sounds worse than FM</name>
  <email>dab...@fooked.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-12-16T17:32:22Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9bfacee4777c3115/1514de713123c9ac?show_docid=1514de713123c9ac</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9bfacee4777c3115/1514de713123c9ac?show_docid=1514de713123c9ac"/>
  <title type="text">Re: James Liar Cridland &quot;radio futurologist&quot; who can&#39;t even see the present</title>
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  I had enough on my plate just trying to read a fraction of the blogs and &lt;br&gt; comments on the BBC Internet blog about the HD PQ thing! :-) &lt;br&gt; Yeah, there&#39;s no doubt about that - the quote she made on Points of View &lt;br&gt; about bit rate proved that on its own, and there are quite a few other &lt;br&gt; comments on blogs she&#39;s written that are equally dishonest.
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