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Re: Why Isn't Socialism Dead?

treifam...@gmail.com (cryptoguy) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:27:36 UT

I don't see why not. When Soviet socialist tyranny ended in Eastern
Europe, exactly this sort of reconciliation took place. My own family,
which had had a farm collectivized out from under it was affected.
We didn't actually get the farm itself back; another farmer had been
working it for decades, and none of us wanted to become farmers, nor

Re: Number of Democrats Falls to Four-Year Low

6...@rangers.net (Atlanta Ranger) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:21:19 UT

Still waiting. You won't back up your drivel because you can't.

Re: About Ayn Rand

pur...@colorme.com (purple) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:20:56 UT

Someone has a sense of humor about Ayn?

Re: Any chance of reasonable objective views of this overview?Makes so much sense of all recent events.

int...@googlemail.com (Pombolo) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:18:26 UT

"Good reason not to look. You will fall into the creation of your own
belief."
And how does it feel for you, knowing that the above statement is
itself part of the programmed reality you have fallen into?
That is the arrogance of this insipid pseudo-philosophical internet-
assembled bilge: the people proposing it would, by definition, be

Re: Climategate: a green conspiracy?

z...@erkonx.net (ZerkonXXXX) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:07:50 UT

a accelerating global warming trend either is or is not taking place is
being obfuscated by the usual suspects.
The fact is that if there is, human actions must either be deemed as
having >absolutely< no effect or some change in human behavior is in
order.
Is the earth warming, irrelevant of cause? Is this the conspiracy?

Re: List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming

tgdenn...@earthlink.net (tg) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:06:51 UT

Re: List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming

tgdenn...@earthlink.net (tg) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 14:06:21 UT

Re: List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming

turt...@fastmail.net (turtoni) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:56:11 UT

Not true.
"Most models of scientific change rely on new data produced by
scientific experiment. The philosopher Karl Popper proposed that since
no amount of experiments could ever prove a scientific theory, but a
single experiment could disprove one, all scientific progress should
be based on a process of falsification, where experiments are designed

Re: List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming

turt...@fastmail.net (turtoni) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:49:30 UT

[link]
Maybe true in your case. I think this is a good summary:
"Mckitrick has remarked, "I have been probing the arguments for global
warming for well over a decade. In collaboration with a lot of

Re: Why Isn't Socialism Dead?

noem...@comcast.net (Mitchell Holman) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:46:25 UT

James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote in
You misspelled "embargo".

Re: Why Isn't Socialism Dead?

noem...@comcast.net (Mitchell Holman) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:42:39 UT

James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote in
So you have no data that backs up your claim, but it
must be right because of government data you have never
seen?
Are you serious?

Re: Why Isn't Socialism Dead?

anarcis...@gmail.com (*Anarcissie*) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:39:14 UT

State ownership or control of production is not
equivalent to worker ownershop and control of
production unless the workers are identical with
the state and the state is perfectly democratic.
But neither of these conditions exist.
In fact most people working in public education
have little or no control, indeed, effect, over their

You'll love this one

c35...@aol.com (C3) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:38:11 UT

Do circles exist? Can you prove it?
C3

Re: Any chance of reasonable objective views of this overview?Makes so much sense of all recent events.

bigflet...@gmail.com (bigfletch8@gmail.com) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:29:53 UT

So what do you know about life that you have discovered for yourself?
Do you vote, go to church, eat 'organic' foods...in otherwords, how
much of your 'reality' has been programmed.
One day you may hear something that "I know, and you also know" but
you have to appreciate 'knowing' actually exists first.

Re: nanotech capacitors

z...@erkonx.net (ZerkonXXXX) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 13:24:57 UT

Or charging them...
Your point is essentially a energy source that gathers but does not need
to produce, the production already done naturally.
Where else but here can common sense lead?
Many years ago a fanciful idea to some was to build a massive cap bank
which captured lighting...