Has any one heard of any electronic bands on the new 93 NEW music talent cd? Also did you know that previous winners of the cd can reenter and win again such as this years? I think CFNY should rename their cd just Talent search and their radio logo from the EDGE to the alternative GUITARY EDGE.
Get with it, Nirvana, Sloan and the whole guitary bit that's been up today isn't the only alternative music around. There's more than garage acoustic bands to play on a so called Alternative radio station.
apapo...@realm.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Anestis Papoutsis) writes: >Also did you know that previous winners of the cd can reenter and win again >such as this years?
This has happened in previous years. Harmonic X-tortion and Skaface are the two that I remember.
I'm more upset that bands with already large local followings and substantial CFNY airplay (Lowest of the Low, Sara Craig, hHead) made it onto the disc. It's hardly a new music search any more ...
>I think CFNY should rename their cd just Talent search >and their radio logo from the EDGE to the alternative GUITARY EDGE.
My friends and I have been calling them the LEADING HEDGE.
>Get with it, Nirvana, Sloan and the whole guitary bit that's been up today >isn't the only alternative music around. There's more than garage acoustic >bands to play on a so called Alternative radio station.
I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in. They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had a station as good.
Looking forward to HEDGE FEST ...
=========================================================================== == Don Marks "Fire Sign. Indicate luminous pornography. dma...@tsegw.tse.com Heliograph. A morse photography. Signal Ad. Commerciality." --- Mr. Partridge
In article <apapouts.1...@realm.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> apapo...@realm.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Anestis Papoutsis) writes:
>Has any one heard of any electronic bands on the new 93 NEW music talent cd? >Also did you know that previous winners of the cd can reenter and win again >such as this years? I think CFNY should rename their cd just Talent search >and their radio logo from the EDGE to the alternative GUITARY EDGE.
>Get with it, Nirvana, Sloan and the whole guitary bit that's been up today >isn't the only alternative music around. There's more than garage acoustic >bands to play on a so called Alternative radio station.
CFNY -- that amusingly sounds like less of a radio station and more like "Crosby, Fogelbert, Nash, and Young" (gag spew hack!). -- greg | "You want a mystery? Pick up your phone book ... gsher...@nyx.cs.du.edu | and tell me what are all these people doing living yeah, "PEACE" this | around here?" -- Howe Gelb
Don Marks, dma...@tsegw.tse.com writes: >CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly >lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same >uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in. >They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following >what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
My brother worked as an engineer at this station for many years. Suffice it to say that the place is completely politically motivated, is run by absolute slime-bags, and every DJ with any ingenuity or integrity was either let go or quit. The mood there was very very bad. Many editorials were written in Toronto weeklies concerning CFNY's unfair practices with regards to lay-offs, promotion and even their poor work ethic.
And, no, my brother wasn't bitter. He's now the head engineer at the number 3 station in the market.
He knew the place had finally died last year when the new program director arrived wearing a Bruce Springsteen Tour jacket.
Gone Daddy gone...
>Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff >that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had >a station as good.
Any crummy little college station blows this dying turd away.
Dave D.F. "It's true they say that money talks. When mine spoke it said 'Buy me a Drink!'."
dma...@tsegw.tse.com (Don Marks) writes: >I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly >lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same >uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in. >They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following >what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
I completely agree, when ever i turn to the station they are always playing comercials. usually that bogus labat ice one.
>>I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly >>lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same >>uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in. >>They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following >>what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
>I completely agree, when ever i turn to the station they are >always playing comercials. usually that bogus labat ice one.
>marc
C'mon guys, give CFNY a break! I like it now more than ever. You are righ t in saying the commercials really suck. Not only that bogus Ice commercial, but the stupid talking engine, and the 'good thing i was wearing my 24 hour deoderant' they stink as well. yes the commercials stink. But i am glad they trimmed out their absurd music they were playing. I couldn't get into that shit. Yes, they are more commercial, but if you want off-the- wall Dayglo abortion bullshit then listen to the college stations. I prefer mainstream alternative (oxymoron!!!). As it stands, their popularity is increasing. I hope it doesn't come to the point where they play Bruce Springsteen. I think i'd die if i had to switch to Q107.
face it, you guys are a minority, a whining minority. What other stations would you rather listen to? They are still the best around.
SID --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Andrew Duke Gruich
CFNY has become an extremely shitty station now but what else is there. You can decide to listen to those classic rock or country and western stations. I can't find any other station that I pick up that even comes close to decent music. CFNY was much better back when Chris Sheppard was there. The only real choice out there is to forget about the radio and listen to your own collection. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! !! Tyler "A.F.U." Mosher "Don't just stand there and shout it, !! !! Chemical Engineering do something about it!" !! !! University of Waterloo Judas, Depeche Mode !! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
: decent music. CFNY was much better back when Chris Sheppard was there. The : only real choice out there is to forget about the radio and listen to your : own collection.
Well, if you like "the Shep" and his music you can still listen to him on 108FM (located at 107.9 on the dial). Along with him you will find Don Burns and a host of other CFNY people from the past.
: I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly : lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same : uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in. : They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following : what someone else has defined as the leading edge. : : Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff : that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had : a station as good.
Ah... CFNY. The name CFNY should be synonomous with the word "change". When I discovered CFNY my brother-in-law said he had stopped listening to it because it had changed so much -- "it wasn't the same anymore" he said. That was over thirteen years ago.
It started one Friday night when I was searching the dial and I came upon a familiar voice. It wasn't as youthful as I remembered, but then again mine wasn't either; after all, a lot of years had gone by since Dave Mickey hosted Channel 11 Dance Party (back in 1964). Now he was going by a different name: David Marsden. The show was different than anything else I had heard on the radio, and the music he played certainly wasn't the stuff played by other stations. The station was CFNY. My wife and I continued to listen to CFNY on Friday nights. The one night however, we turned in a bit before the Marsden show and discovered an anouncer who was calling someone on the phone. He was checking in at home... a female voice answered... he asked if the wash was done... she replied "check"... socks folded... she replied "check"... he asked about the state of the dishes... she replied "done, check"... dusting... "check". We had discovered Earl and Bev!
It became a ritual to tune into the Earl and Bev show (with alternate Earl), followed by the Marsden show. We found we were no longer listening to our Bob Seager records, and they went out with the Elton John records at our first garage sale. Our record collection was being replaced by other groups: Talk Talk, Haricut 100, Tom Robinson, Classix Nouveaux, Depeche Mode, Tears for Fears, Generation X, The Spoons, Visage, B-movie, Spandau Ballet, and -- probably one of the most influential groups of all time -- New Order. There were also songs by groups that no other station played -- songs by small independant groups who without CFNY would have never been given a voice -- songs like "Rubber Girl" by the Pukka Orchastra, or "My Old Man's A Joke" by Knoby Kleg.
I suppose we never thought that CFNY would change, but then one night David announced that it would be his last show. I still have a taped copy of that show, along with many other hours of tape from shows as far back as 84. Anyway, Marsden was replaced by a snot-nosed kid by the name of Chris "puppy-dog" Shepherd. Things got worse. The programs and announcers that we had come to love on CFNY were slowly disappearing. Listeners choice, a Saturday afternoon show which allowed listeners to come in and co-host a show, playing the music they liked, disappeared -- a great idea who's time had gone. The IMPORT show, where listeners got a chance to hear rare and hard to acquire music. It was on this show that I heard "Summer with Monica" by Roger Mcgough. Twilight Jazz, a Sunday program that started at 4 p.m. and was hosted by Ron Burshell, offered the smoothing quality to the stations sharp edged format. James Scott filled in for the vacationing Ron. Ron did not return, and soon after the show was canceled. All request weekends -- "jocks off" weekends -- 52 in 82 -- all these things made CFNY the great station it was. They are all gone or have been replaced with watered down versions such as the "all request breakfast" on Saturdays and the "all request nooner".
Finally, one Saturday night we turned on the radio expecting to hear Earl but instead it was James Scott (the anouncer with the kiss of death). He told the listening audience that he was filling in for the "vacationing Earl Jive". What the listening public didn't realize is that every time in the past when someone was being filled-in-for-while-on-vacation, the person never came back. Earl and Bev were gone. The above CNFY radio personalities had personality; they were "The Spirit Of Radio".
The summer of 89 became a lowest point in the history of CFNY. If the station sank any deeper the signal would be on the AM bandwidth. You could count on the same song being played at the same time every morning, but worse, it was the same music that you could hear on AM radio. On Nov 16, 1989 Earl filled in for Humble Howard, while Howard was being "married alive". It was great to hear his voice again, even if it was only a fill-in for the two morning clowns. With the reappearance of Earl we realized just how bad things had become at CFNY. On November 18, 1989 CFNY anounced an "all request Saturday"; things were looking up. There was also vague promises of a new Earl and Bev show on weekend mornings. In early 1990 this came true; however, it was short lived. On May 7, 1990 Whiner Swartz delivered a "State of the Nation" address to the CFNY listeners. His statement was promising; things were getting better. But not for long... Today, only Humble and Fred remain.
I'm not sure what's going to come of the "Edge" thing. Nobody knows. But the one thing you can count on is that CFNY will continue to change, and each time people will say it is worse. Hell, there will most likely come a time when we look back at the CFNY of today and think of it as good programming. The other thing you can count on is that I will still be listening. After all, there isn't anything else out there on the dial.
In article <C8w193....@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> he...@cuckoo.UWaterloo.ca writes:
>a different name: David Marsden. The show was different than anything >else I had heard on the radio, and the music he played certainly >wasn't the stuff played by other stations. The station was CFNY.
David Marsden is now in Vancouver with Coast 1040 (CKST), a commercial alternative station. Only problem with the station is that it's AM. Attempts to get an FM license have failed.
>The above CNFY radio personalities had personality; they were >"The Spirit Of Radio".
Gee, Coast 1040 is also "The Spirit of Radio". Imagine that. It sounds like CKST has taken much of what CFNY used to be, and adapted it for the West Coast market.
he...@cuckoo.UWaterloo.ca writes: >I'm not sure what's going to come of the "Edge" thing. Nobody knows. >But the one thing you can count on is that CFNY will continue to change, >and each time people will say it is worse. Hell, there will most likely >come a time when we look back at the CFNY of today and think of it as >good programming.
Well, you're half right :)
Dave D.F. "It's true they say that money talks. When mine spoke it said 'Buy me a Drink!'."
>C'mon guys, give CFNY a break! I like it now more than ever. You are righ >t in saying the commercials really suck. Not only that bogus Ice >commercial, but the stupid talking engine, and the 'good thing i was wearing >my 24 hour deoderant' they stink as well. yes the commercials stink. But i >am glad they trimmed out their absurd music they were playing. I couldn't >get into that shit. Yes, they are more commercial, but if you want off-the- >wall Dayglo abortion bullshit then listen to the college stations. I prefer >mainstream alternative (oxymoron!!!). As it stands, their popularity is >increasing. I hope it doesn't come to the point where they play Bruce >Springsteen. I think i'd die if i had to switch to Q107.
>face it, you guys are a minority, a whining minority. What other stations >would you rather listen to? They are still the best around.
>SID
It's impossible to argue taste. You like it, we don't.
BUT, it's not impossible to claim that the station isn't what it was and that it no longer comes close to meeting it's advertising credits.
As long as the station continiues to build itself up as "leading edge", and as long as they keep playing shit ass top 40 and the same lame post-new wave tunes that I had to suffer through in the mid-80's on various "FOX" "all hits" stations, then I'll continue to call them hypocrits, and lament that a once great station has sunk so low.
If they called themselves schlock 40 or "music of your life" for the late 20's crowd, then I could give a shit. You don't see us discussing how bad CISS FM (urban country) is do you? This is an "alternative" newsgroup and as such we discuss independant releases and bands that are either difficult to get info on otherwise, or are not part of the mainstream. CFNY does not cover these bands in any real way.
If you have a problem with this, then what are you doing posting to this group?
>>I agree, absoulutely. CFNY is a shadow of its former self and incredibly >>lacking in diversity. Every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same >>uninspired songs with only some very occasional good stuff thrown in. >>They're hardly defining the leading edge; they're definitely following >>what someone else has defined as the leading edge.
>I completely agree, when ever i turn to the station they are >always playing comercials. usually that bogus labat ice one.
But what else is there to listen to in Buffalo? Top 40, oldies and classic rock. I haven't turned my radio on in months...:-(
he...@cuckoo.UWaterloo.ca () writes: >Well, if you like "the Shep" and his music you can still listen to him on >108FM (located at 107.9 on the dial). Along with him you will find Don >Burns and a host of other CFNY people from the past. >Now, does anyone know where Earl and Bev are? >Bri
how about danielle (danny) ellwel(sp?)? major babe!
DM>Despite our complaints, remember that CFNY still plays a lot of stuff DM>that most commercial stations wouldn't touch. Many cities wish they had DM>a station as good.
Coming from Mtl, CFNY is a gift from heaven! I can't see CHOM in Mtl playing even Ian McCollough, PIL, never mind the new alternative bands...
DM>Looking forward to HEDGE FEST ...
Are you sure it's HEDGE and not EDGE? as in Leading Edge? And I can't wait to see Midnight Oil, Pursuit Of Happiness and many others at Markham fairgrounds.
Steph --- þ MR/2 1.36 NR þ Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
It's been said far too many times already - but if you hate CFNY now, you'll really hate it if you leave T.O. - I'm now in the radio hell called Ottawa, and though I long for the days of the Spirit, Id I'd even listen to "Modern Rock" right about now.
cj
-- There is a crack in everything - that's how the light gets in. Leonard Cohen ______ Carrie Janisse Ottawa, Ontario ab...@freenet.carleton.ca
CJ>It's been said far too many times already - but if you hate CFNY CJ>now, you'll really hate it if you leave T.O. - I'm now in CJ>the radio hell called Ottawa, and though I long for the days of CJ>the Spirit, Id CJ>I'd even listen to "Modern Rock" right about now.
Carrie:
Have you tried listening to CKCU 93.1 or CHUO 89.1? They're Carleton's and Ottawa U's stations, respectively. Or are you looking for CFNY's classic alternative? Give me a hint as to what you really miss.
I lived up there for 4-1/2 years while at Carleton (1988-1993) and found the best thing to do was listen to my own music. However, I'm a dj and thus had a lot of it already. If you like, we could possibly set something up so that I could supply you with CFNY tapes, if needed.
Just tell me what you're looking for - Depeche? Sub-pop? 80's?
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