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SS4  
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 More options 2 Oct 2006, 20:55
Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines
From: "SS4" <n...@email.please.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:55:59 GMT
Local: Mon 2 Oct 2006 20:55
Subject: question - Search engine submission
Hello,

This is going to be my very first time of search engine submission. My web
site is not ready to show, lets suppose that my url is www.myweb.com. I
mainly want people visit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog.

Should I submit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog to search engines
separately? Will they penalize me for this?

Should I just submit only my main url www.myweb.com?

Thank you


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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:32:29 GMT
Local: Mon 2 Oct 2006 21:32
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:55:59 GMT, "SS4" <n...@email.please.com> wrote:
>Hello,

>This is going to be my very first time of search engine submission. My web
>site is not ready to show, lets suppose that my url is www.myweb.com. I
>mainly want people visit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog.

>Should I submit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog to search engines
>separately? Will they penalize me for this?

>Should I just submit only my main url www.myweb.com?

Don't submit anything to an engine, just get a link to your site from
a site that's already indexed.

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From: "Turbo" <sandeep.i...@gmail.com>
Date: 2 Oct 2006 18:08:42 -0700
Local: Tues 3 Oct 2006 02:08
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
For google search engine submission , submit just one.
1. Then go to google webmasters tool:-
2. http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/
3. Login using google id
4. Add ur site
5. Verify it by any of the two methods
6. Go to Preferred domain in Diagnostic tab
7. Select appropriate radio button to combine both www.url and without
www one.

Also read this, if u like:
http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in/2006/10/01/google-webmaster-cent...
-----------------
http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in/
http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in/2006/09/30/top-10-seo-tips/


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From: "Andrew?Heenan" <andrew.hee...@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:17:16 GMT
Local: Tues 3 Oct 2006 02:17
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
"SS4" <n...@email.please.com> wrote ...

> This is going to be my very first time of search engine submission. My web
> site is not ready to show, lets suppose that my url is www.myweb.com. I
> mainly want people visit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog.

Don't submit either. Build content and links, and the SEs will find you.
Submit before then, and your listing won't stick, anyway.
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From: David <seod...@search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:42:53 GMT
Local: Tues 3 Oct 2006 02:42
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 2 Oct 2006 18:08:42 -0700, "Turbo" <sandeep.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

>For google search engine submission , submit just one.

Why submit at all and are you saying submit one page from a domain or
all pages?

All you need is links and it's done for you by Googles spider, I
haven't submitted a page in 2+ years and I've got millions of pages
indexed in Google from over 150 domains.

I've submitted one site (my first site) and it was a waste of time
then as it is now.

>1. Then go to google webmasters tool:-
>2. http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/
>3. Login using google id
>4. Add ur site
>5. Verify it by any of the two methods
>6. Go to Preferred domain in Diagnostic tab

Complete waste of time!!

>7. Select appropriate radio button to combine both www.url and without
>www one.

Or setup a 301 redirect to do it automatically from within your site
no need to rely on Google which messes up it's spidering of
www/non-www all the time.

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 More options 3 Oct 2006, 06:03
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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:03:31 GMT
Local: Tues 3 Oct 2006 06:03
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 2 Oct 2006 18:08:42 -0700, "Turbo" <sandeep.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

>For google search engine submission , submit just one.
>1. Then go to google webmasters tool:-
>2. http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/
>3. Login using google id
>4. Add ur site
>5. Verify it by any of the two methods
>6. Go to Preferred domain in Diagnostic tab
>7. Select appropriate radio button to combine both www.url and without
>www one.

>Also read this, if u like:
>http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in/2006/10/01/google-webmaster-cent...
>-----------------
>http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in/
>http://sandy007smarty.seo.iitm.ac.in/2006/09/30/top-10-seo-tips/

Wrong! Bye now.

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 More options 3 Oct 2006, 08:12
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From: Borek <m.borkow...@delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts>
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:12:48 +0200
Local: Tues 3 Oct 2006 08:12
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:55:59 +0200, SS4 <n...@email.please.com> wrote:
> This is going to be my very first time of search engine submission. My  
> web site is not ready to show, lets suppose that my url is www.myweb  
> .com. I mainly want people visit www.myweb .com/cat and www.myweb  
> .com/dog.

Use www.example.com for examples.

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From: "Chris H." <chrisind...@hotmail.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2006 18:28:28 -0700
Local: Wed 4 Oct 2006 02:28
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

SS4 wrote:
> Hello,

> This is going to be my very first time of search engine submission. My web
> site is not ready to show, lets suppose that my url is www.myweb.com. I
> mainly want people visit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog.

> Should I submit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog to search engines
> separately? Will they penalize me for this?

> Should I just submit only my main url www.myweb.com?

> Thank you

By adding a link to the main page of your site in your signature when
you post to newsgroups will have your site spidered by the search
engines.

Christopher H.

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From: "ou...@siteseek.net" <ou...@siteseek.net>
Date: 5 Oct 2006 19:13:24 -0700
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 03:13
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
Hi,

It's not necessary since search engines bots follow the links from your
home page.  You can't get penalized for submitting to search engines.
Just think about it...if you could, wouldn't a lot of unscrupulous
webmastersn just submit their competitors' sites to get them banned by
Google and others.

You don't need to submit to the major search engines like Google and
Yahoo, but you do need to (manually) submit to web directories.

Good luck!

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 03:43
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From: "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com" <johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com>
Date: 5 Oct 2006 19:43:16 -0700
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 03:43
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

SS4 wrote:
> This is going to be my very first time of search engine submission. My web
> site is not ready to show, lets suppose that my url is www.myweb.com. I
> mainly want people visit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog.

> Should I submit www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog to search engines
> separately? Will they penalize me for this?

> Should I just submit only my main url www.myweb.com?

Yes, submit ONLY your home page to search engines.  Your home page
should link directly to both www.myweb.com/cat and www.myweb.com/dog.

The ONLY search engines that you need submit to are:  Google, Yahoo,
and MSN.

If your site is really big you can submit sitemaps to both Google and
Yahoo, in text format or whatever.


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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 04:02
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From: "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com" <johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com>
Date: 5 Oct 2006 20:02:56 -0700
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 04:02
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

Of course, don't submit your site until it is ready to be seen.

The urls for submission are:
http://www.google.com/addurl/?continue=/addurl
https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/submit
http://search.msn.com/docs/submit.aspx?FORM=WSDD2

The reason you submit your site to a search engine is because you want
it to be found by the public.  So, it is always best to submit it
directly to a search engine in order to speed up the process.  It is a
long process to build up to a high page rank.  Google has what has been
called the Google Sandbox, where new sites are intentionally listed
very slowly.  So, the sooner you submit the better.

Who says so?  I do.


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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 06:57
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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:57:05 GMT
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 06:57
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 5 Oct 2006 19:43:16 -0700, "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com"

No they aren't. Why would you want to submit to them?

>If your site is really big you can submit sitemaps to both Google and
>Yahoo, in text format or whatever.

Is text ok with Yahoo? I didn't look for a while. I've done ROR for
Yahoo before now.

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 06:57
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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:57:05 GMT
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 06:57
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 5 Oct 2006 20:02:56 -0700, "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com"

How does it speed up the process? I think you've just got hold of the
wrong end of various sticks here.

>  It is a
>long process to build up to a high page rank.  Google has what has been
>called the Google Sandbox, where new sites are intentionally listed
>very slowly.  So, the sooner you submit the better.

The sooner the engines index you the better but submission won't do
that.

>Who says so?  I do.

I don't.

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 08:54
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From: "SS4" <n...@email.please.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:54:29 GMT
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 08:54
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
Thank you guys for all of the information.

Now I have some ideas what I should do.

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 11:28
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From: "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com" <johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com>
Date: 6 Oct 2006 03:28:03 -0700
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 11:28
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

If the only thing that you got is a hammer, everything begins to look
like a nail ... certainly applies to you. :(

I got some excellent tips on SEO from Microsoft. :)

Both at MSN and at Microsoft Office.  They have several excellent SEO
articles at:http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX011227041033.aspx

So, now I am very confident that my chosen path is the correct one ...
with or without YOUR help. :)


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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 13:57
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From: David <seod...@search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:57:29 GMT
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 13:57
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 05:57:05 GMT, Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
wrote:

There's something seriously wrong here, I agree with what bill posted
:-))

I feel a disturbance in the force....... false alarm, just the kebab
effects from last night :-)

Submission might get a new site with no links to it indexed in a few
months, but it won't result in any traffic since all the major search
engine take links into account when ranking. If the site never gets a
link it will be dropped from the index so will need resubmitting over
and over again.

This approach is stupid as it won't result in any traffic, so what's
the point?

One half decent link can get a site spidered and indexed within 24hrs
and the link will help long term with rankings and keeping the site
indexed (spiders will naturally return, no need for submitting). Long
term this approach will result in traffic.

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 14:53
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From: tonnie <t.pras...@chello.nl>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:53:58 +0200
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 14:53
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com schreef:

> Big Bill wrote:
>> I don't.

> If the only thing that you got is a hammer, everything begins to look
> like a nail ... certainly applies to you. :(

Bill has a screwdriver too ;)

> I got some excellent tips on SEO from Microsoft. :)

Ah, lets hope they get something right.

> Both at MSN and at Microsoft Office.  They have several excellent SEO
> articles at:http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX011227041033.aspx

> So, now I am very confident that my chosen path is the correct one ...
> with or without YOUR help. :)

Why bitching around? This is not YOUR personal helpdesk you know! As
long as you don't pay us, we don't have to help you. And still many of
us do help others. How about YOU?

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 15:08
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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:08:29 GMT
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 15:08
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 6 Oct 2006 03:28:03 -0700, "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com"

Why do I find this hard to believe?

>Both at MSN and at Microsoft Office.  They have several excellent SEO
>articles at:http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX011227041033.aspx

A search for seo failed to find any.

>So, now I am very confident that my chosen path is the correct one ...
>with or without YOUR help. :)

Bye then!

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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 21:26
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From: "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com" <johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com>
Date: 6 Oct 2006 13:26:19 -0700
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 21:26
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

:(

Just thought that you might want to know. :)


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 More options 6 Oct 2006, 21:33
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:33:43 +0200
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 21:33
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com schreef:

naturalhealthperspective says enough. Bye now.

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Date: 6 Oct 2006 13:52:01 -0700
Local: Fri 6 Oct 2006 21:52
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

I said excellent tips, so you are using the WRONG keyword.

Building a better Web site
Using your Web site as a marketing tool

And, follow the links!


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 More options 7 Oct 2006, 00:12
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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:12:47 GMT
Local: Sat 7 Oct 2006 00:12
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 6 Oct 2006 13:52:01 -0700, "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com"

You said SEO articles, how could I go wrong?

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 More options 7 Oct 2006, 12:47
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From: "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com" <johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com>
Date: 7 Oct 2006 04:47:20 -0700
Local: Sat 7 Oct 2006 12:47
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

Perhaps, if you were to concentrate?

I wrote: "I got some excellent tips on SEO from Microsoft. :)"

I NEVER said anything about the title of the web pages.

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 More options 7 Oct 2006, 13:52
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From: "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com" <johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com>
Date: 7 Oct 2006 05:52:50 -0700
Local: Sat 7 Oct 2006 13:52
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission

> > >> A search for seo failed to find any.

> > >I said excellent tips, so you are using the WRONG keyword.

> > You said SEO articles, how could I go wrong?

> Perhaps, if you were to concentrate?

> I wrote: "I got some excellent tips on SEO from Microsoft. :)"

> I NEVER said anything about the title of the web pages.

Here, let me save you some time.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/

Upper level pages only.

One topic per page.  Everything fits into a single full size screen.

Exact results will vary, depending upon screen resolution and font
sizes used.


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 More options 7 Oct 2006, 17:02
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From: Big Bill <kr...@cityscape.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:02:21 GMT
Local: Sat 7 Oct 2006 17:02
Subject: Re: question - Search engine submission
On 7 Oct 2006 04:47:20 -0700, "johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com"

<johngo...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
>They have several excellent SEO
>> >> >articles at:http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX011227041033.aspx

I thought you meant SEO from when you said that. Not to worry.

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