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Re: SWATCH goes chronograph automatic!

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Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

bengtl8....@telia.nospamcom (Bengt Larsson) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 01:28:13 UT

Casio W-800H. Looks great, digital, 10-year battery.

Re: SWATCH goes chronograph automatic!

rich...@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 01:12:46 UT

In article <hb97el$qh...@news.eternal-sep tember.org>,
Why do people always say this? The plastic is one of the things that
makes this movement nearly idestructable, that is taking a hit up
to s measured 9G's and not dying. No other material would work here
(maybe rubber, but you get the point)

Shifting this back to watches, was (Re: Information on old Bulova Watch)

rich...@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 01:07:27 UT

There are lots of cool Bulovas out there, and from certain periods they're more
rugged and accurate than Rolexes of the same period.
The 23 and 30 jewel movements in particular were quite quite something.
Need a picture to say more. As it happens, currently one of these is
my daily wearer.

Re: Information on old Bulova Watch

rich...@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 01:04:21 UT

In article <16597-4AB7E713...@storefull-3 171.bay.webtv.net>,
They didn't use a lot of fake diamonds. AFAIK they never used fake diamonds.

Re: Rectangular watch designs

cuhu...@webtv.net — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 00:51:58 UT

My old rectangular wristwatches, Benrus, Gruen, Bulova, one old
rectangular Timex wristwatch and one old Sears rectangular wristwatch.At
least two of them works if I wind them up.I think they date back to the
1940s, or maybe the 1950s.Nothing much to crow about, and I am not
crowing.
cuhulin

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Re: Rectangular watch designs

ing...@yahoo.co.uk (Alex W.) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:11:30 UT

That doesn't say much, I think. After all, with a few wacky
exceptions, all dials are circular in that the hands describe a
360-degree rotation whatever the shape of the case.
Lst time I looked, the Jaeger leCoultre Reverso still used a
rectangular movement. Karsten Frasdorf makes rectangular
movements in small batches, as does Roger Smith. I believe

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

d...@zipp.org (dAz) — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:27:19 UT

crap is right, I don't like working on them while parts are not
available, the better ones like seagull are ok if you ignore the brittle
screws, but for the others, I won't touch them
I know, I still get 70s seiko autos in that the owner has had since new
for service, couple of jewels for the barrel arbour holes and the watch

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

d...@zipp.org (dAz) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 23:39:28 UT

things like stems and rotors are compatible with the 2824 clones, screws
too, since the chinese ones are a bit on the brittle side, cost of a
seagull st21 is about $50AU which is way cheaper than the $140 eta wants

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

nunuv...@netscape.net (Jack Denver) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 19:07:31 UT

I gather that you could probably put (many if not all) ETA parts in the ETA
clones. But the clones are relatively new and only a small % of the Chinese
watches out there. As Frank says, they are not good about labeling the
calibers (but after a while you can recognize them). Assuming you can find

Re: Rectangular watch designs

nunuv...@netscape.net (Jack Denver) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 19:03:24 UT

Not just the Japs - I had a round Tissot with sweep at 6 that used the ETA
"shape" movement - the horrid one with a whole bunch of wheels to bring the
seconds down.
Some of the smaller ladies rectangular watches do
Yes back in the day there were little ladies handwind movements for
"cocktail watches" - they usually had tiny balances and kept crappy time -

Zodiac

john.w...@nrl.navy.mil (J.B. Wood) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 14:52:55 UT

Hello, all, and a question for the Zodiac wristwatch experts: Besides
the Astrographic models, did Zodiac ever use a rotating dial(s) on any
of their other past/present models? Thanks for your time and comment.

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

f...@notthis.optushome.com.au (Frank Adam) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 08:05:46 UT

Hard ? Depends on which one. The better copies are not so bad, but the
ones with all the little "oops plate" addons are utter crap.
Other than that they look crap, feel crap and frankly, i don't want to
nor need to do crap. :)
With the movement swaps the problem is that often the hands don't even

Re: Fake Cartier Tank Series Women's Watch W260745

nunuv...@netscape.net (Jack Denver) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 05:56:19 UT

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Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

d...@zipp.org (dAz) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 05:16:52 UT

well if the 10year battery watch cost you $100 or under, keep it 10years
and then chuck it, depends on how hard people are on watches, some
watches a few years down the line specially ones worn by tradesmen like
brickies the watch is that bad it is cheaper to throw it.
yeah I find they are not too hard to work on, like the eta clones from

Re: Rectangular watch designs

f...@notthis.optushome.com.au (Frank Adam) — Fri, 12 Dec 2009 02:38:33 UT

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:48:41 -0500, "Jack Denver"
It's because of the aerodynamics. You can hardly expect to drive your
convertible sportscar fast with a rectangular watch on your arm
hanging over the side and creating drag.
Well there was a short stint of square watches after WWII. Remember
the start of the "digital" craze ? Both mechanical and the later

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Re: Rectangular watch designs

nunuv...@netscape.net (Jack Denver) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 20:48:41 UT

What's interesting is how few watches nowadays are rectangular - I would say
90+% of the watches I see are round. On the one hand, round is the
"natural" shape for the clock dial. OTOH, it's not really a natural shape to
wear as a bracelet on the wrist. Very soon after the earliest trench watches

Re: Rectangular watch designs

ing...@yahoo.co.uk (Alex W.) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 11:45:16 UT

I think we all assumed a certain price range, given the original
set of watches....
Of course, the Tank is the rectangular watch par excellence.
Alas, antique ones are worth more than my right kidney, and
modern ones can appear a bit flash.

Re: Rectangular watch designs

john.w...@nrl.navy.mil (J.B. Wood) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 11:36:06 UT

Hello, and hey, how come nobody mentioned the "timeless" Cartier tanker
wristwatch?

Re: Rectangular watch designs

nunuv...@netscape.net (Jack Denver) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 16:27:26 UT

It's a matter of personal taste - personally I prefer the Doxa but partly
out of nostalgia - my late father wore Doxas that he bought in Germany in
the early '50s.

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

mt69...@yahoo.com (Beau G.) — Thu, 12 Dec 2009 00:13:50 UT

A lot of good points have been made so far that I agree with and I
will add that some quartz models available now proudly boast of 10 yr
battery life which is great.
As far as the G Shocks with the solar feature they really are great
but when they do have a storage cell (battery) issue the battery has

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

ing...@yahoo.co.uk (Alex W.) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 11:33:55 UT

Slightly non sequitur, but wandering through a major shopping
street yesterday gave me the thought....
Do also look at watches above your $100 limit. In the current
climate, all shop owners are desperate for the consumer dollar,
and some of them are going under. This means huge pre-Xmas
discounts and clearance sales where reductions of 50% are far

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

ftr...@iinet.net.au (Fraser Johnston) — Wed, 12 Dec 2009 02:37:11 UT

IMHO: Casio
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Seconded. For mechanicals the Invicata 8926 is a lot of watch for not much
money.
Fraser

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Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

d...@polbox.com (d530) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 17:45:15 UT

100% agree. However please consider whether you are in acceptable distance
from synchronizing signal transmitter. If not, forget radio-controlled
watches. Casio radio-controlled watches when not synchronized periodically
are not very accurate (+-20 s/month) but those Casios that are not
radio-controlled have better accuracy, despite their declared accuracy is +-

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

waxing_gibb...@hotmail.com (Tom Charlton) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 11:44:05 UT

I agree with SWG. Get a Casio that's solar-powered and radio-controlled.
You'll never have to worry about changing batteries or setting the time
again.
Tom
Too many brands to mention, and wide variation within brands. Pulsar
is a lower-priced brand of Seiko, usually plated base metal cases, but
occasionally a full stainless. I've never seen a silver Seiko in

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

djohnso...@gmail.com (Sevesteen) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 04:43:07 UT

Too many brands to mention, and wide variation within brands. Pulsar
is a lower-priced brand of Seiko, usually plated base metal cases, but
occasionally a full stainless. I've never seen a silver Seiko in
anything but stainless, Citizen can be either. Lorus is also a Seiko
brand, but with lousy cases, either plastic or low-end base metal.

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

f...@notthis.optushome.com.au (Frank Adam) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 04:25:03 UT

Assuming a decent retailer, they will be able to disclose the
movement's origin, even if the case itself doesn't say it.
A lot of the cheaper "fashion wacthes" will use Swiss Ronda movements,
very rarely ETAs. Even cheaper ones will have Japanese. Something like
a Miyota or Pulsar/TMI movement. Basically if it is too cheap for what

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

matho...@gmail.com (FM) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 03:58:49 UT

Just a couple of questions: what brands other than Swatch use Swiss
movements and which ones other than Seiko and Citizen use Japanese
movements? In the same vein how do you find if they use lithium batteries?
Everything seems to come from China these days.
Thank you all for your kind replies.
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Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

f...@notthis.optushome.com.au (Frank Adam) — Tue, 12 Dec 2009 01:29:58 UT

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:10:36 -0800 (PST), Sevesteen
Well, he is not gonna get far with <100 bucks towards an Eco or
Kinetic. The capacitor alone retails for about 50-60 bucks. :)
I agree with the stainless case.
Under a hundred bucks, brand doesn't matter much as long as it is a
S/S case and have a Japanese or Swiss quartz movement. Even the

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

djohnso...@gmail.com (Sevesteen) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 23:10:36 UT

What do you mean by "best"? Longevity? Ruggedness? Accuracy?
Casio G-Shock has probably the best reputation for ruggedness and the
ability to withstand abuse.
For analog watches, the biggest difference will be in the case rather
than the movement. Look for an all stainless case rather than
"stainless back, base metal bezel". I prefer a conentionally-attached

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

nunuv...@netscape.net (Jack Denver) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 22:30:52 UT

Lots to choose from:
Seiko 5 automatic:
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(many different dials available)
Invicta diver :
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Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

ing...@yahoo.co.uk (Alex W.) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 17:16:51 UT

They won't quite come in under $100, but Swatch mechanicals are
good value for money, IMO.

Re: What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

swisswatch...@hotmail.com (SWG) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 15:22:37 UT

IMHO: Casio

Re: Rectangular watch designs

swisswatch...@hotmail.com (SWG) — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 15:20:21 UT

Can you date them? What makes? What brands? Pictures available
somewhre?
Best regards
SWG

Re: Rectangular watch designs

cuhu...@webtv.net — Mon, 11 Nov 2009 03:56:56 UT

I have always prefered the old retangular design/style, with the
seperate second hand/seperate dial, wristwatches.I have a few of them
here, mens and womens rectangular wristwatches.
cuhulin

What are the best digital or analog watches below $100?

matho...@gmail.com (FM) — Sun, 11 Nov 2009 16:09:42 UT

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Re: Rectangular watch designs

swisswatch...@hotmail.com (SWG) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 07:27:28 UT

We'll heed you advice in summertime, eating out in the garden, where
our two rather restlesss grand children can have some space to move
around. Mind you, Ismaning also offers some nice eating out places: my
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Re: Rectangular watch designs

ing...@yahoo.co.uk (Alex W.) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 01:31:56 UT

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Re: Rectangular watch designs

ing...@yahoo.co.uk (Alex W.) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 01:28:05 UT

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Re: Rectangular watch designs

f...@notthis.optushome.com.au (Frank Adam) — Sat, 11 Nov 2009 00:10:38 UT

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:01:58 +0100, Dieter Michel
If i was to wear rectangulars, Roamer and Doxa in that order.
The other two look blingy or ugly for my taste tenticles.

Re: Rectangular watch designs

swisswatch...@hotmail.com (SWG) — Fri, 11 Nov 2009 17:17:51 UT

Gruss Dieter,
Wir weilen momentan bei unserer Tochter in Ismaning (München). Prosit!
1 Roamer
2.Citizen
3. Doxa
and I hate the looks of the Oris, although otherwise Oris is a
watchmaker I like.
Actually the ancient Heuer, now TAG-Heuer square Steve Mc Queen's
Monaco chronograph is my absolute favorite: