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  <title type="text">alt.horology Google Group</title>
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  A group for the science of clocks and watches.
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  <updated>2009-11-22T16:42:55Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Tom Charlton</name>
  <email>waxing_gibb...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T16:42:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/ff6665436700b19c?show_docid=ff6665436700b19c</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Sherline lathes</title>
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  Very true. Back in the day I ran a Warner &amp;amp; Swasey turret lathe for about &lt;br&gt; five years. After the second year or so I could make that machine dance. &lt;br&gt; Most kids in the US today have never seen one. &lt;br&gt; I want a Sherline too, but I&#39;m supporting too many hobbies as it is. &lt;br&gt; Tom
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  <author>
  <name>Jack Denver</name>
  <email>nunuv...@netscape.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T21:18:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/6986708b421e32c3?show_docid=6986708b421e32c3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/6986708b421e32c3?show_docid=6986708b421e32c3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Sherline lathes</title>
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  There was some reference on the Sherline website to mfring having been &lt;br&gt; tranferred from Oz to US at some point. Unusual in that we don&#39;t get all &lt;br&gt; that much in the way of Oz mfred goods in the US. Every once in a while GM &lt;br&gt; will relabel a Holden and bring it over as a Pontiac or somesuch, esp. since
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  <author>
  <name>Frank Adam</name>
  <email>f...@notthis.optushome.com.au</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T20:40:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/6331971de8c803c7?show_docid=6331971de8c803c7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/6331971de8c803c7?show_docid=6331971de8c803c7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Sherline lathes</title>
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  On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:40:24 -0500, &amp;quot;Jack Denver&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve looked at that. The import laws here are a goddamn maze, but from &lt;br&gt; what i could fathom, if i would get a 4100C at US1400 + $170 &lt;br&gt; postage(according to UPS), it would cost an additional A$300 or so &lt;br&gt; over here in GST(VAT), customs and bank charges. One thing i&#39;ve never
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  <author>
  <name>Norman Schwartz</name>
  <email>n...@optonline.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T16:23:28Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/8683e53fe9cbaf8d?show_docid=8683e53fe9cbaf8d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;PaulNewman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=17945-4B0777E6-270@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net&quot;&gt;news:17945-4B0777E6-270@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net&lt;/a&gt;... &lt;br&gt; Maybe I&#39;ll have to wait until Bernie gets out of jail.
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  <author>
  <email>cuhu...@webtv.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T13:59:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/601c442c47160a8b?show_docid=601c442c47160a8b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/601c442c47160a8b?show_docid=601c442c47160a8b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  My 1914 Ford car has an Antique Car license plate and my 1978 Dodge van &lt;br&gt; has an Antique Truck license plate and my 1983 Dodge van has an Antique &lt;br&gt; Car license plate.I don&#39;t have any Antique license plates for my 1948 &lt;br&gt; Willys Jeep and my 1976 made in Germany Westlake Moped.My Jeep was &lt;br&gt; completly worn out when I bought it, I need to rebuild my Jeep and I am
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  <author>
  <name>Alex W.</name>
  <email>ing...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T13:01:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/77d346bdd7898e74?show_docid=77d346bdd7898e74</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/77d346bdd7898e74?show_docid=77d346bdd7898e74"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  I think car classifications tend to follow the relevant legal &lt;br&gt; definitions. In general usage, the terma are more loosely &lt;br&gt; employed. &lt;br&gt; It also occurs to me that the distinction of &amp;quot;antique&amp;quot; sometimes &lt;br&gt; depends on the event where they are displayed. Some British &lt;br&gt; fairs for instance have guidelines for their vetting committees
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  <author>
  <name>dAz</name>
  <email>d...@zipp.org</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T12:04:01Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/cc5a681aee7fdad3?show_docid=cc5a681aee7fdad3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  in Australia cars 30years or older qualify for Heritage plates, well in &lt;br&gt; NSW, not sure about the other states &lt;br&gt; classifications generally for cars and motorcycles are &lt;br&gt; * 1900-1908 Veteran Cars &lt;br&gt; * 1909-1930 Vintage Cars &lt;br&gt; * 1931-1979 Classic Cars &lt;br&gt; so his car and mine would be classed as Vintage
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  <author>
  <name>Alex W.</name>
  <email>ing...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T11:24:31Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/997e9545e5e69a18?show_docid=997e9545e5e69a18"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  This is broadly correct, but there are exceptions. &lt;br&gt; Wrist-watches are deemed to be &amp;quot;vintage&amp;quot; if they are aged 30 &lt;br&gt; years or older -- it&#39;s the equivalent of &amp;quot;antique&amp;quot; for other &lt;br&gt; goods and it makes sense since 99% of wristwatches are much less &lt;br&gt; than 100 years old. &lt;br&gt; Cars are another exception: in Britain, any vehicle older than 30
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  <author>
  <name>dAz</name>
  <email>d...@zipp.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T09:06:22Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/4c41f2145c3273a6?show_docid=4c41f2145c3273a6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  so I will have to wait until 2028 before my model A hits its centenary ;)
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  <author>
  <email>cuhu...@webtv.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T05:17:26Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/5c3d66aa51cce2ee?show_docid=5c3d66aa51cce2ee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at...</title>
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  My sister and brother in law used to snail mail subscribe to Antique &lt;br&gt; Trader.When they got through with reading them, they gave them to &lt;br&gt; me.According to an article I once read in Antique Trader, for something &lt;br&gt; to be considered an antique, it has to be at least 100 years old. &lt;br&gt; I own a 1914 Ford Model T Runabout Roadster car.My car will not be an
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jack Denver</name>
  <email>nunuv...@netscape.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T16:40:24Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/9be3dcd43e26b21b?show_docid=9be3dcd43e26b21b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Sherline lathes</title>
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  How much would it cost for you to have this shipped? Customs duties? Broker &lt;br&gt; fees? VAT? &lt;br&gt; There are going to be some disparities as the $ fluctuates and the prices &lt;br&gt; don&#39;t always get adjusted. Sometime this is in your favor, sometimes the &lt;br&gt; other way round (though usually the importer &amp;quot;forgets&amp;quot; to lower the prices
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Frank Adam</name>
  <email>f...@notthis.optushome.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T16:09:36Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/8bacaa0ce6148d6b/eb3f437dc42d440d?show_docid=eb3f437dc42d440d"/>
  <title type="text">Sherline lathes</title>
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  Hi Guys, &lt;br&gt; Any of you use Sherline ? &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m thinking of a 4100 or 4400(still tossing up whether to go with a &lt;br&gt; longer bed) mini lathe. &lt;br&gt; Tolerance, reliability, value for money, other brand ideas welcome. :) &lt;br&gt; Btw, how is this ? &lt;br&gt; On the US official site i could grab a baseline 4100A package for &lt;br&gt; US$675. That&#39;s around 740 Aussie bucks..
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  <author>
  <name>Jack Denver</name>
  <email>nunuv...@netscape.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T15:57:21Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/6489c93c0878cd32?show_docid=6489c93c0878cd32"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at Sotheby&#39;s</title>
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  Yes but it partly depends on what the aftermarket bits are - if you use &lt;br&gt; cheap junk or parts that really don&#39;t belong, the decline in value is &lt;br&gt; bigger. Even bigger still if you mutilate the watch in order to fit the &lt;br&gt; aftermarket part. There is good repair and bad. Getting the watch/clock &lt;br&gt; functioning again is obviously the goal (I agree w. you that in most cases
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Frank Adam</name>
  <email>f...@notthis.optushome.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T14:59:11Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/1ad1148ca13d3e55?show_docid=1ad1148ca13d3e55"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at Sotheby&#39;s</title>
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  On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:44:34 +0000, &amp;quot;Alex W.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ing...@yahoo.co.uk&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; But Alex. Anything mechanical, if used, will have wear and whatnot &lt;br&gt; requiring replacement of parts. The casing parts, mainspring and stem &lt;br&gt; are all consumables and nobody in their right mind would question the &lt;br&gt; replacement of a broken/damaged part on a watch. If that part is an
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>J. B. Wood</name>
  <email>w...@itd.nrl.navy.mil</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T11:22:37Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.horology/browse_thread/thread/c8e0e9104e9650d0/a44f09059cdf13f9?show_docid=a44f09059cdf13f9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most wanted Rolex &quot;Paul Newman&quot; 6241 &quot;exotic&quot; up for auction at Sotheby&#39;s</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;9imNm.39710$%j4.28...@newsfe1 8.iad&amp;gt;, &amp;quot;Jack Denver&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Hi, Jack (don&#39;t say that at an airport), and all. Yes, along with the &lt;br&gt; frustration of having something that may look nice but doesn&#39;t work. I &lt;br&gt; have antique vacuum tube table radios in the same condition. Sincerely, &lt;br&gt; John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: w...@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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