Los Angeles officials asked that suppliers of computer equipment stop using the terms "master" and "slave," saying such terms are offensive. The terms are sometimes used in reference to computer equipment. http://rexcurry.net/wordmaster.html
It is unclear whether the official policy applies to the words "Mr." and "Mrs." (Mister and Mistress) which are forms of "Master."
It is unclear whether the official policy applies to the words "Slav" or "Slavic," the origin of the word "slave."
News outlets reported that a "discrimination complaint" alleged "offended sensitivities." The media did not report whether any Slav or the descendant of a Slav made the complaint. No one asked the Slavic community for comments at all.
If it hasn't been done already, a complaint can be filed against the terms "Mr." and "Mrs." and "Slav" so that Los Angeles officials can expand their policy.
Reporters recounted that in 2000, the Los Angeles City Council supported federal legislation seeking reparations for descendants of slaves. Not a single reporter revealed how much money any Slav descendant might receive, nor even whether the Slavic community supports the legislation.
In the Hawaii Reporter Newspaper, the etymologist Dr. Rex Curry explained that the word "slave" has the etymological root "Slav" because Slavs were often enslaved ("Too Politically Correct: Los Angeles Bans 'Master & Slave' and 'Mr. & Slav,' published 12/1/2003). "Slavic" refers to a lot of people, including Caucasian, Slovak (Czechoslovakian), Slovene (Slovenia & parts of Austria & Italy), Polish, Serbo-Croatian, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, and Russian. http://rexcurry.net/wordsmain.html
People who continue to be classified as "Whites" (as distinguished from people who are classified as "blacks") were enslaved around the world -- especially the Slavs, from whom the word is derived in both European languages and in Arabic.
According to the syndicated columnist Thomas Sowell, white slaves were still being bought and sold in Egypt years after the Emancipation Proclamation had freed many blacks in the United States.
Not only does slavery predate the U.S., slavery is a practice that socialists and communists perpetuated well beyond the end of slavery in the U.S., perpetuating slavery even into the 1950s, arguably beyond.
Soviet socialists diverted the rivers that fed the inland Aral Sea and used them to irrigate vast cotton fields where socialist slaves were forced to pick cotton (This is not a joke). Many of those socialist slaves actually were slavs (the etymological root of the word "slave" due to the fact that even farther back in history, slavs were slaves. The Aral Sea was once the world's fourth-largest body of fresh water, covering an area the size of Ireland. But then the nation around it were enslaved by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Their looney planned economics and leviathan schemes shrank the Aral by 90 percent to a string of isolated stretches of water. Long after Soviet socialism collapsed, the Aral Sea began to recover.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics even dictated the manufacture of a watch bearing the name "SLAVA." Thus, it was a watch built by socialist slaves under dictates of socialist slavery and it was named "slava." http://rexcurry.net/slava-watch-soviet-socialist-slaves-ussr.jpg
Eventually the USSR realized the negative connotations of the watch's name in the West. The name was changed to "Craba." In Cyrillic, the word "slavs" is "славянин."
In addition to imposing slavery, socialists also perpetrated genocide. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Peoples' Republic of China and the National Socialist German Workers' Party perpetrated the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): ~60 million slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; ~50 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; and ~20 million under the National Socialist German Workers' Party. http://rexcurry.net/socialism-red-flags-socialists1c.jpg
On August 23, 1939, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics joined with the National Socialist German Workers' Party to invade Poland in a pact to divide up Europe. The National Socialist German Workers’ Party (NSGWP) invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, and Soviet Socialists followed shortly thereafter (Sept. 17). In their role as allies, Soviet Socialists slaughtered more people in Poland than did German Socialists. http://rexcurry.net/socialists.html
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Throughout history, the Serbs have been situated between two important cultures: the Byzantine East (Islamic East) and the Latin West. They were subjugated into slavery by the Moslem Turks for over five centuries during the Middle Ages.
Slavs were the origin of the word "slave" in European lanuages and in Arabic.
The word "Slav" is also related to the word "Serb," which is related to the origin of the words "serf" and "serve" and "servitude," again via the same root concept of "slave." Under socialism, Slavs and Serbs became slaves once again: socialist slaves.
After the collapse of the Soviet Socialism, Slavs and Serbs celebrated freedom again.
After the collapse of Soviet Socialism, the Slava watch factory and its property were expected to be rescued from socialism and returned (sold) on the open market, in economic freedom, and capitalism, as private property for retail development.
Today, the word "slava" has many meanings in Russia, Serbia and other countries. "Slava" often is praise and glorification for deliverance from slavey. It is often directed toward a saint believed to have interceded for deliverance. A Slava sometimes celebrates the day that a family's main ancestor killed his first Turkish soldier during the wars between Serbia and Turkey. Slava celebrations have many parallels to Passover celebrations, including commemoration of exodus from slavery.
The Slava celebration revived in Serbia after the fall of the socialist regime in Yugoslavia. The doomsday clock of socialism continues to symbolize the threat of shortages, poverty, misery, starvation, atrocities and mass slaughter. The closest that the doomsday clock came to striking midnight was during the years occupied by the the hate-spewing paramilitary societies created in the socialist trio of atrocities (above). They killed more people than would three nuclear bombs. The world still has not rejected their philosophy of socialism and the deaths mount as the bomb's clock keeps ticking.
> Los Angeles officials asked that suppliers of computer equipment stop > using the terms "master" and "slave," saying such terms are offensive. > The terms are sometimes used in reference to computer equipment.http://rexcurry.net/wordmaster.html
> It is unclear whether the official policy applies to the words "Mr." > and "Mrs." (Mister and Mistress) which are forms of "Master."
> It is unclear whether the official policy applies to the words "Slav" > or "Slavic," the origin of the word "slave."
> News outlets reported that a "discrimination complaint" alleged > "offended sensitivities." The media did not report whether any Slav or > the descendant of a Slav made the complaint. No one asked the Slavic > community for comments at all.
> If it hasn't been done already, a complaint can be filed against the > terms "Mr." and "Mrs." and "Slav" so that Los Angeles officials can > expand their policy.
> Reporters recounted that in 2000, the Los Angeles City Council > supported federal legislation seeking reparations for descendants of > slaves. Not a single reporter revealed how much money any Slav > descendant might receive, nor even whether the Slavic community > supports the legislation.
> In the Hawaii Reporter Newspaper, the etymologist Dr. Rex Curry > explained that the word "slave" has the etymological root "Slav" > because Slavs were often enslaved ("Too Politically Correct: Los > Angeles Bans 'Master & Slave' and 'Mr. & Slav,' published 12/1/2003). > "Slavic" refers to a lot of people, including Caucasian, Slovak > (Czechoslovakian), Slovene (Slovenia & parts of Austria & Italy), > Polish, Serbo-Croatian, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, and Russian.http://rexcurry.net/wordsmain.html
> People who continue to be classified as "Whites" (as distinguished > from people who are classified as "blacks") were enslaved around the > world -- especially the Slavs, from whom the word is derived in both > European languages and in Arabic.
> According to the syndicated columnist Thomas Sowell, white slaves were > still being bought and sold in Egypt years after the Emancipation > Proclamation had freed many blacks in the United States.
> Not only does slavery predate the U.S., slavery is a practice that > socialists and communists perpetuated well beyond the end of slavery > in the U.S., perpetuating slavery even into the 1950s, arguably > beyond.
> Soviet socialists diverted the rivers that fed the inland Aral Sea and > used them to irrigate vast cotton fields where socialist slaves were > forced to pick cotton (This is not a joke). Many of those socialist > slaves actually were slavs (the etymological root of the word "slave" > due to the fact that even farther back in history, slavs were slaves. > The Aral Sea was once the world's fourth-largest body of fresh water, > covering an area the size of Ireland. But then the nation around it > were enslaved by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Their looney > planned economics and leviathan schemes shrank the Aral by 90 percent > to a string of isolated stretches of water. Long after Soviet > socialism collapsed, the Aral Sea began to recover.
> The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics even dictated the manufacture > of a watch bearing the name "SLAVA." Thus, it was a watch built by > socialist slaves under dictates of socialist slavery and it was named > "slava."http://rexcurry.net/slava-watch-soviet-socialist-slaves-ussr.jpg
> Eventually the USSR realized the negative connotations of the watch's > name in the West. The name was changed to "Craba." In Cyrillic, the > word "slavs" is "славянин."
> In addition to imposing slavery, socialists also perpetrated genocide. > The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Peoples' Republic of China > and the National Socialist German Workers' Party perpetrated the > socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): ~60 million > slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; ~50 million > under the Peoples' Republic of China; and ~20 million under the > National Socialist German Workers' Party.http://rexcurry.net/socialism-red-flags-socialists1c.jpg
> On August 23, 1939, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics joined > with the National Socialist German Workers' Party to invade Poland in > a pact to divide up Europe. The National Socialist German Workers’ > Party (NSGWP) invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, and Soviet > Socialists followed shortly thereafter (Sept. 17). In their role as > allies, Soviet Socialists slaughtered more people in Poland than did > German Socialists.http://rexcurry.net/socialists.html
> ...............................................
> Throughout history, the Serbs have been situated between two important > cultures: the Byzantine East (Islamic East) and the Latin West. They > were subjugated into slavery by the Moslem Turks for over five > centuries during the Middle Ages.
> Slavs were the origin of the word "slave" in European lanuages and in > Arabic.
> The word "Slav" is also related to the word "Serb," which is related > to the origin of the words "serf" and "serve" and "servitude," again > via the same root concept of "slave." > Under socialism, Slavs and Serbs became slaves once again: socialist > slaves.
> After the collapse of the Soviet Socialism, Slavs and Serbs celebrated > freedom again.
> After the collapse of Soviet Socialism, the Slava watch factory and > its property were expected to be rescued from socialism and returned > (sold) on the open market, in economic freedom, and capitalism, as > private property for retail development.
> Today, the word "slava" has many meanings in Russia, Serbia and other > countries. "Slava" often is praise and glorification for deliverance > from slavey. It is often directed toward a saint believed to have > interceded for deliverance. A Slava sometimes celebrates the day that > a family's main ancestor killed his first Turkish soldier during the > wars between Serbia and Turkey. Slava celebrations have many parallels > to Passover celebrations, including commemoration of exodus from > slavery.
> The Slava celebration revived in Serbia after the fall of the > socialist regime in Yugoslavia. > The doomsday clock of socialism continues to symbolize the threat of > shortages, poverty, misery, starvation, atrocities and mass slaughter. > The closest that the doomsday clock came to striking midnight was > during the years occupied by the the hate-spewing paramilitary > societies created in the socialist trio of atrocities (above). They > killed more people than would three nuclear bombs. The world still has > not rejected their philosophy of socialism and the deaths mount as the > bomb's clock keeps ticking.
Unfortunately, progroms, mass executions, slaughters of minorities, crimes against humanity and mankind are not only the fact of left wing politicians. It is an inbred trait of mankind, something deep inside inherited from our animal past.
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>Eventually the USSR realized the negative connotations of the watch's >name in the West. The name was changed to "Craba." In Cyrillic, the >word "slavs" is "????????."
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This time you wrote about what you hadn't have the faintest idea.
There is no end to idiocy. Remember when some official in DC (David Howard) was accused of racism because he used the word "niggardly" (which means "stingy" and has no racial connotation? Nevertheless the man lost his job. There is no end to racial misunderstanding in America - slavery was America's original sin and we will never get over it.
"Slava" as a Russian watch brand means "Glory" and has nothing to do with the slaves or Slavs. But, see above - professional race mongers don't let facts get in their way when they are playing the race card - there is too much money in it to be discouraged by something as trivial as truth.
In any case, I understand that the 2nd Moscow Watch factory has been taken over as a retail development and is no longer producing watches - the fate of many Moscow factories that were sitting on now valuable real estate.
News Journalism wrote: > Los Angeles officials asked that suppliers of computer equipment stop > using the terms "master" and "slave," saying such terms are offensive. > The terms are sometimes used in reference to computer equipment. > http://rexcurry.net/wordmaster.html
> It is unclear whether the official policy applies to the words "Mr." > and "Mrs." (Mister and Mistress) which are forms of "Master."
I just learned something!
I always thought a Mistress was something between a Mister and a Matress.
Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.
We are writing to advise we will comply with your recent directive. Note that in future we will label our machines "greedy Oligarch" and "economically challenged son of the Motherland".
yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one morons complaint it is going to have a name change.
this unfortunately has brought out the ratbags, one particular ratbag of Australian Native Descent wants a few other brands removed, Redskin lollies, Coon cheese, a brand that has been around for long time here, we used to have Golliwog biscuits that got renamed scalliwags, a lot of children grew up with a Golliwog soft doll, still around but usually found at the back of the store nowadays.
> There is no end to idiocy. Remember when some official in DC (David > Howard) was accused of racism because he used the word "niggardly" > (which means "stingy" and has no racial connotation? Nevertheless the > man lost his job. There is no end to racial misunderstanding in America > - slavery was America's original sin and we will never get over it.
> "Slava" as a Russian watch brand means "Glory" and has nothing to do > with the slaves or Slavs. But, see above - professional race mongers > don't let facts get in their way when they are playing the race card - > there is too much money in it to be discouraged by something as trivial > as truth.
> In any case, I understand that the 2nd Moscow Watch factory has been > taken over as a retail development and is no longer producing watches - > the fate of many Moscow factories that were sitting on now valuable real > estate.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:27:07 +1100, dAz wrote: > yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called > Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one > morons complaint it is going to have a name change.
That's just wrong. "Creole" is a widely used word and has entirely inoffensive meanings, such as a type of dialect or a sort of ear-ring.
> this unfortunately has brought out the ratbags, one particular ratbag of > Australian Native Descent wants a few other brands removed, Redskin > lollies, Coon cheese, a brand that has been around for long time here, > we used to have Golliwog biscuits that got renamed scalliwags, a lot of > children grew up with a Golliwog soft doll, still around but usually > found at the back of the store nowadays.
> just plain stupidity.
Could be worse. Here in BLighty, they banned or rewrote nursery rhymes. No more "baa baa black sheep"....
Alex W. wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:27:07 +1100, dAz wrote:
>> yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called >> Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one >> morons complaint it is going to have a name change.
> That's just wrong. "Creole" is a widely used word and has > entirely inoffensive meanings, such as a type of dialect or a > sort of ear-ring.
or a type of cuisine, the context this biscuit was made
>> this unfortunately has brought out the ratbags, one particular ratbag of >> Australian Native Descent wants a few other brands removed, Redskin >> lollies, Coon cheese, a brand that has been around for long time here, >> we used to have Golliwog biscuits that got renamed scalliwags, a lot of >> children grew up with a Golliwog soft doll, still around but usually >> found at the back of the store nowadays.
>> just plain stupidity.
> Could be worse. > Here in BLighty, they banned or rewrote nursery rhymes. No more > "baa baa black sheep"....
so its now "baa baa sheep of ethnic appearance"?
these idiots need a clip across the ear, hang on cannot do that either.....
Then there was "Darkie" toothpaste (very popular in East Asia) whose logo was a man in blackface (supposedly inspired by Al Jolson) with dazzling white teeth.
It's now the meaningless "Darlie" and the man in blackface is now a white guy, because a multi-national (Colgate) bought them and immediately came under pressure from the usual suspects. Though rumor has it that the trouble was stirred up by their competitor P&G.
Oddly enough, the name of the product in Chinese, Hei Ren (literally: black people) has not changed. I suppose that's because racial grievance mongers are not smart enought to read Chinese.
> yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called > Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one > morons complaint it is going to have a name change.
> this unfortunately has brought out the ratbags, one particular ratbag of > Australian Native Descent wants a few other brands removed, Redskin > lollies, Coon cheese, a brand that has been around for long time here, we > used to have Golliwog biscuits that got renamed scalliwags, a lot of > children grew up with a Golliwog soft doll, still around but usually found > at the back of the store nowadays.
> just plain stupidity.
>> There is no end to idiocy. Remember when some official in DC (David >> Howard) was accused of racism because he used the word "niggardly" >> (which means "stingy" and has no racial connotation? Nevertheless the man >> lost his job. There is no end to racial misunderstanding in America - >> slavery was America's original sin and we will never get over it.
>> "Slava" as a Russian watch brand means "Glory" and has nothing to do with >> the slaves or Slavs. But, see above - professional race mongers don't >> let facts get in their way when they are playing the race card - there >> is too much money in it to be discouraged by something as trivial as >> truth.
>> In any case, I understand that the 2nd Moscow Watch factory has been >> taken over as a retail development and is no longer producing watches - >> the fate of many Moscow factories that were sitting on now valuable real >> estate.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:26:04 +1100, dAz <d...@zipp.org> wrote: >Alex W. wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:27:07 +1100, dAz wrote:
>>> yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called >>> Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one >>> morons complaint it is going to have a name change.
>> That's just wrong. "Creole" is a widely used word and has >> entirely inoffensive meanings, such as a type of dialect or a >> sort of ear-ring.
>or a type of cuisine, the context this biscuit was made
Haven't heard the Coon one. That's bloody ridiculous.
>> Could be worse. >> Here in BLighty, they banned or rewrote nursery rhymes. No more >> "baa baa black sheep"....
>so its now "baa baa sheep of ethnic appearance"?
LOL. Stupid PC. ISTR, Thomas can't pull the girl cars along either. That's PD(Politically Demeaning). Can't wait for PE.
>these idiots need a clip across the ear, hang on cannot do that either.....
It's ok, we can still kill them in our favorite gory fashion. Looking at the TV guide, that is still quite ok for general consumption.
In Aussie Rules footy, calling a player a cunt is ok. As long as it's a colourless one.. reference to odour can still be used freely. ;)
Frank Adam wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:26:04 +1100, dAz <d...@zipp.org> wrote:
>> Alex W. wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:27:07 +1100, dAz wrote:
>>>> yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called >>>> Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one >>>> morons complaint it is going to have a name change. >>> That's just wrong. "Creole" is a widely used word and has >>> entirely inoffensive meanings, such as a type of dialect or a >>> sort of ear-ring. >> or a type of cuisine, the context this biscuit was made
> Haven't heard the Coon one. That's bloody ridiculous.
>>> Could be worse. >>> Here in BLighty, they banned or rewrote nursery rhymes. No more >>> "baa baa black sheep".... >> so its now "baa baa sheep of ethnic appearance"?
> LOL. Stupid PC. > ISTR, Thomas can't pull the girl cars along either. That's > PD(Politically Demeaning). Can't wait for PE.
>> these idiots need a clip across the ear, hang on cannot do that either.....
> It's ok, we can still kill them in our favorite gory fashion. Looking > at the TV guide, that is still quite ok for general consumption.
> In Aussie Rules footy, calling a player a cunt is ok. As long as it's > a colourless one.. reference to odour can still be used freely. ;)
:)
now I might go out this arvo and fish for Niggers for Dinner, and before anybody gets upset, it is a type of fish, other names are Blackfish and Luderick, just depends what part of Australia you are in.
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:32:56 +1100, dAz wrote: > Frank Adam wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:26:04 +1100, dAz <d...@zipp.org> wrote:
>>> Alex W. wrote: >>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:27:07 +1100, dAz wrote:
>>>>> yes political correctness gone mad, we have a brand of biscuits called >>>>> Creole creams, been on the shelf for 3 years, and just because of one >>>>> morons complaint it is going to have a name change. >>>> That's just wrong. "Creole" is a widely used word and has >>>> entirely inoffensive meanings, such as a type of dialect or a >>>> sort of ear-ring. >>> or a type of cuisine, the context this biscuit was made
>> Haven't heard the Coon one. That's bloody ridiculous.
>>>> Could be worse. >>>> Here in BLighty, they banned or rewrote nursery rhymes. No more >>>> "baa baa black sheep".... >>> so its now "baa baa sheep of ethnic appearance"?
>> LOL. Stupid PC. >> ISTR, Thomas can't pull the girl cars along either. That's >> PD(Politically Demeaning). Can't wait for PE.
>>> these idiots need a clip across the ear, hang on cannot do that either.....
>> It's ok, we can still kill them in our favorite gory fashion. Looking >> at the TV guide, that is still quite ok for general consumption.
>> In Aussie Rules footy, calling a player a cunt is ok. As long as it's >> a colourless one.. reference to odour can still be used freely. ;)
> :)
> now I might go out this arvo and fish for Niggers for Dinner, and before > anybody gets upset, it is a type of fish, other names are Blackfish > and Luderick, just depends what part of Australia you are in.
... and for the fishing you sit under a blackboy?
That said, it's quite mortifying that my mother, who grew up in Sydney in the 50's, still uses the word "picaninny"....
> now I might go out this arvo and fish for Niggers for Dinner, and before > anybody gets upset, it is a type of fish, other names are Blackfish and > Luderick, just depends what part of Australia you are in.
In the US today, the so-called N-word must never be uttered in any context (at least by a white person - black people are permitted to call each other by that name). Not even in jest or reference to a fish or whatever. Not at all. Never. It is the holy of holies, the line that must never be crossed for any reason. The F-word, OTOH, is OK - last year after the local team won the baseball championship one of the players was being interviewed on local TV immediately after the game and in his excitement he blurted out, for all the kiddies to hear - "We are the F***ing champions". Once in my son's high school history class, taught by a black teacher, the countries of Africa were being discussed. There was one student who was unsure of the pronunciation of the country of Niger and much hilarity ensued. On the one hand, he had to answer the question being put to him. OTOH, he had to say (what appeared to him to be) the N-word to a black person's face, to his teacher no less. The poor boy's head nearly exploded.
> > now I might go out this arvo and fish for Niggers for Dinner, and before > > anybody gets upset, it is a type of fish, other names are Blackfish and > > Luderick, just depends what part of Australia you are in.
> In the US today, the so-called N-word must never be uttered in any context > (at least by a white person - black people are permitted to call each other > by that name). Not even in jest or reference to a fish or whatever. Not at > all. Never. It is the holy of holies, the line that must never be crossed > for any reason. The F-word, OTOH, is OK - last year after the local team won > the baseball championship one of the players was being interviewed on local > TV immediately after the game and in his excitement he blurted out, for all > the kiddies to hear - "We are the F***ing champions". Once in my son's high > school history class, taught by a black teacher, the countries of Africa > were being discussed. There was one student who was unsure of the > pronunciation of the country of Niger and much hilarity ensued. On the one > hand, he had to answer the question being put to him. OTOH, he had to say > (what appeared to him to be) the N-word to a black person's face, to his > teacher no less. The poor boy's head nearly exploded.
This reminds me of the poor guy who had to appear in front of a local Justice of Peace, because in the heat of a traffic jam caused by a woman driver, he had called her a "cow". The JP fined him, judging that this was injurious. At the end, the guy asked the judge whether it would be improper to call a cow "Madam". Upon the JP's answer that he could call a cow any name he wanted, the sly guy bowed in front of the woman, and courtesly said: "goodbye Madam".
In the end a watch is a watch and prejudices get increasingly worst, the more one tends to eliminate them: instead of words, brutality is increasing incleading the use of harmful weapons. What's better?
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:09:12 +0000, Alex W <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:28:52 +1100, Frank Adam wrote:
>> In Aussie Rules footy, calling a player a cunt is ok. As long as it's >> a colourless one.. reference to odour can still be used freely. ;)
>Ah, but it is no longer acceptable to call a touring English >cricketer a "Pommy". I believe one of your lot was fined >for that last year.
Havent heard, but certainly possible. It is equally stupid. The word Pom is so ingrained in our language that it will take forever to eradicate it. Most times it is used as short for "English", with no ill feelings at all. Really, apart from outright explicits, it is the tone that counts. I could call you a "gentleman", but given the situation and my tone, you might start throwing furniture at me.
>Come to think of it, perhaps losing that most favourite >insult may have contributed to your loss of the Ashes....
Eh, we got them back at the ODIs 6:1, though my British friends quickly assured me that one dayers don't count for anything. Apparently the same applies to 20/20. In short, anything we win is just something they didn't want to win. Now you tell me, how can one resist calling them "bloody Poms" ? ;)
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:26:07 +1100, Frank Adam wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:09:12 +0000, Alex W <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:28:52 +1100, Frank Adam wrote:
>>> In Aussie Rules footy, calling a player a cunt is ok. As long as it's >>> a colourless one.. reference to odour can still be used freely. ;)
>>Ah, but it is no longer acceptable to call a touring English >>cricketer a "Pommy". I believe one of your lot was fined >>for that last year.
> Havent heard, but certainly possible. It is equally stupid. The word > Pom is so ingrained in our language that it will take forever to > eradicate it. Most times it is used as short for "English", with no > ill feelings at all.
Goodness, no. I myself am happy to call myself a Pom when I visit God's Own, never had a problem. My worst times are when I accidentally misidentify a Kiwi as an Aussie. They don't like that very much, for some strange reason....
> Really, apart from outright explicits, it is the tone that counts. I > could call you a "gentleman", but given the situation and my tone, you > might start throwing furniture at me.
Although you'd have to admit that it would be highly unlikely to be insulted as a "gentleman" at a footy game or in a bar in the back blocks somewhere... :-)
>>Come to think of it, perhaps losing that most favourite >>insult may have contributed to your loss of the Ashes....
> Eh, we got them back at the ODIs 6:1, though my British friends > quickly assured me that one dayers don't count for anything. > Apparently the same applies to 20/20. In short, anything we win is > just something they didn't want to win. > Now you tell me, how can one resist calling them "bloody Poms" ? ;)
20/20 and one-day matches are crowd-pleasers, really, money-spinners to make the game work for television. The real deal is still a proper test match, with rain, tea breaks and no bloody fairy-coloured lounge suits in sight....
As for bad losers, I was in the country during the Four Nations, and you should have hear the Aussies whining and carrying on when thy got slaughtered by the All Blacks and the Springboks....
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:14:14 +0000, Alex W <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Ah, but it is no longer acceptable to call a touring English >>>cricketer a "Pommy". I believe one of your lot was fined >>>for that last year.
>> Havent heard, but certainly possible. It is equally stupid. The word >> Pom is so ingrained in our language that it will take forever to >> eradicate it. Most times it is used as short for "English", with no >> ill feelings at all.
>Goodness, no. I myself am happy to call myself a Pom when I >visit God's Own, never had a problem. My worst times are >when I accidentally misidentify a Kiwi as an Aussie. They >don't like that very much, for some strange reason....
If in doubt, just ask them what's 12 divided by 2. Sex = Kiwi. Six = Aussie. Dunno = Queenslander.
;-)
>>>Come to think of it, perhaps losing that most favourite >>>insult may have contributed to your loss of the Ashes....
>> Eh, we got them back at the ODIs 6:1, though my British friends >> quickly assured me that one dayers don't count for anything. >> Apparently the same applies to 20/20. In short, anything we win is >> just something they didn't want to win. >> Now you tell me, how can one resist calling them "bloody Poms" ? ;)
>20/20 and one-day matches are crowd-pleasers, really, >money-spinners to make the game work for television. The >real deal is still a proper test match, with rain, tea >breaks and no bloody fairy-coloured lounge suits in >sight....
I don't care that much for cricket, perhaps that's why the no nonsense one dayers and 20/20 are more my cuppa. I watched the last day of each of the Ashes for the same reason. The first four days(IMHO) is just pissfarting around, it is generally the last day when the chasing team needs to pull the finger out and the game becomes interesting.
>As for bad losers, I was in the country during the Four >Nations, and you should have hear the Aussies whining and >carrying on when thy got slaughtered by the All Blacks and >the Springboks....
You'll find those everywhere. Certainly, last few times we lost a match, the media went nuts talking about 'the problem with Aussie cricket'. Nothing. We lost. Someone had to win, get over it idiots. Arghh ! of course, we can always blame it on losing 3-4 of our best players over the last year. One particular one to stupidity. (Symonds) :)
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:28:16 +1100, Frank Adam wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:14:14 +0000, Alex W <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>Ah, but it is no longer acceptable to call a touring English >>>>cricketer a "Pommy". I believe one of your lot was fined >>>>for that last year.
>>> Havent heard, but certainly possible. It is equally stupid. The word >>> Pom is so ingrained in our language that it will take forever to >>> eradicate it. Most times it is used as short for "English", with no >>> ill feelings at all.
>>Goodness, no. I myself am happy to call myself a Pom when I >>visit God's Own, never had a problem. My worst times are >>when I accidentally misidentify a Kiwi as an Aussie. They >>don't like that very much, for some strange reason....
> If in doubt, just ask them what's 12 divided by 2. > Sex = Kiwi. > Six = Aussie. > Dunno = Queenslander.
> ;-)
A Kiwi is on holiday in the Aussie outback.
He sees a farmer, buggering the hell out of a sheep.
"That's disgusting", he thinks, "I have to say something".
So he goes over and says "Listen here mate, back home we shear those"
The farmer replies "You get your own, I ain't shearing this with nobody."
(works better when told in a pub after a schooner or three)
>>>>Come to think of it, perhaps losing that most favourite >>>>insult may have contributed to your loss of the Ashes....
>>> Eh, we got them back at the ODIs 6:1, though my British friends >>> quickly assured me that one dayers don't count for anything. >>> Apparently the same applies to 20/20. In short, anything we win is >>> just something they didn't want to win. >>> Now you tell me, how can one resist calling them "bloody Poms" ? ;)
>>20/20 and one-day matches are crowd-pleasers, really, >>money-spinners to make the game work for television. The >>real deal is still a proper test match, with rain, tea >>breaks and no bloody fairy-coloured lounge suits in >>sight....
> I don't care that much for cricket, perhaps that's why the no nonsense > one dayers and 20/20 are more my cuppa. I watched the last day of each > of the Ashes for the same reason. The first four days(IMHO) is just > pissfarting around, it is generally the last day when the chasing team > needs to pull the finger out and the game becomes interesting.
That doesn't always work, especially not in England where we usually order up some rain on the last day. :-)
>>As for bad losers, I was in the country during the Four >>Nations, and you should have hear the Aussies whining and >>carrying on when thy got slaughtered by the All Blacks and >>the Springboks....
> You'll find those everywhere. > Certainly, last few times we lost a match, the media went nuts talking > about 'the problem with Aussie cricket'. Nothing. We lost. Someone had > to win, get over it idiots. Arghh ! > of course, we can always blame it on losing 3-4 of our best players > over the last year. One particular one to stupidity. (Symonds) :)
It really is odd how fixated Australians are on sports. You do have other features and characteristics to your country and people, did you know that? I still have to figure out how a whole nation of 20 million reasonably well-educated people can be satisfied with living off whatever they can dig out of the ground and playing or watching sports.
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