>>The free utility "Dimension 4" from these guys lets you do all sorts of >>stuff including looking back months at the time corrections it's made for >>you.
>>The free utility "Dimension 4" from these guys lets you do all sorts of >>stuff including looking back months at the time corrections it's made for >>you.
My pleasure Jeff to see your story. I appreciate it. I'm convinced that "curious event" with dish wasn't only statistical incident. All the best to you and your wonderful family. Have you ever been to Lodz ?
>One of the major "affordable" Swiss Brand distributed in Poland is >Adriatica. What's your impression? Comments? >Best regards >SWG
Hello,
Nice watches. Many models. I've got one quartz. Lately it mainly rests in the drawer. In fact I'm not satisfied with it's accuracy. Unfortunately it's Ronda movement has no trimmer capacitor, but I know that manufacturers stopped mounting trimmers into their movements.
As to the Adriatica brand, their watches are really affordable, and they are Swiss (at least as stated on the dial :-)
Unfortunately their autos are no longer available with ETA movements. Now they are driven with Claro. And this is a little controversial in aspect of origin.
Another Swiss brand, with higher position of prestige is Atlantic. As far as I know this brand is mainly distributed in estern european countries. And the prices of vintage, even heavily worn pieces on Allegro (polish equivalent of eBay) are not low.
> My pleasure Jeff to see your story. I appreciate it. I'm convinced that > "curious event" with dish wasn't only statistical incident. > All the best to you and your wonderful family. Have you ever been to Lodz ?
> Wojtek
Not been to Lodz yet, but there's still time....
Jeff
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> My pleasure Jeff to see your story. I appreciate it. I'm convinced that > "curious event" with dish wasn't only statistical incident. > All the best to you and your wonderful family. Have you ever been to Lodz ?
> Wojtek
Off topic, but heyyy. What is the only commonly used word in the english language that changes not only its pronounciation but also its meaning if you capitalise the first letter? (Both meanings are commonly used.)
A: polish -- Polish
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> >One of the major "affordable" Swiss Brand distributed in Poland is > >Adriatica. What's your impression? Comments? > >Best regards > >SWG
> Hello,
> Nice watches. Many models. I've got one quartz. Lately it mainly rests in > the drawer. In fact I'm not satisfied with it's accuracy. Unfortunately it's > Ronda movement has no trimmer capacitor, but I know that manufacturers > stopped mounting trimmers into their movements.
> As to the Adriatica brand, their watches are really affordable, and they are > Swiss (at least as stated on the dial :-)
In fact, Adriatica has its seat in Dongio, Ticino, Switzerland; their watches being assembled & controlled in the vicinity on Swiss movements, their watches are in fact legally "Swiss Made".
> Unfortunately their autos are no longer available with ETA movements. Now > they are driven with Claro. And this is a little controversial in aspect of > origin.
You bet: this is the result of Hayeks' "newly" established very restrictive distribution of ETA movements. Adriatica has always been the "runner up", competing against Atlantic: a Sea fighting against a whole Ocean :-) Sorry for the cheap joke!
> Another Swiss brand, with higher position of prestige is Atlantic. As far as > I know this brand is mainly distributed in estern european countries. And > the prices of vintage, even heavily worn pieces on Allegro (polish > equivalent of eBay) are not low.
It might be that Hayek accepts Atlantic in its leading position, perhaps to counter act against both the Swiss Made runner up Adriatica and the Citizen built on Festina, as Tissot does not seem yet to be in a position (yet?) to occupy the leading market share.
> Off topic, but heyyy. What is the only commonly used word in the > english language that changes not only its pronounciation but also its > meaning if you capitalise the first letter? (Both meanings are commonly > used.)
>> Off topic, but heyyy. What is the only commonly used word in the >> english language that changes not only its pronounciation but also its >> meaning if you capitalise the first letter? (Both meanings are commonly >> used.)
>>My pleasure Jeff to see your story. I appreciate it. I'm convinced that >>"curious event" with dish wasn't only statistical incident. >>All the best to you and your wonderful family. Have you ever been to Lodz ?
>>Wojtek
> Off topic, but heyyy. What is the only commonly used word in the > english language that changes not only its pronounciation but also its > meaning if you capitalise the first letter? (Both meanings are commonly > used.)
> A: polish -- Polish
That ain't the ONLY one...
(Almost everything can be found on the web.)
Scroll down to the bottom of the page to see about thirteen more:
> Unfortunately their autos are no longer available with ETA movements. Now > they are driven with Claro. And this is a little controversial in aspect > of origin.
There is no controversy at all - the origin of the Claro movements is claro (clearly) Chinese. It is the Tianjin (Seagull) ST-16, part for part (except the rotor).
Claro supposedly (although I'm not sure I believe this either) imports the parts and assembles them in Switz, doing just enough to technically qualify as "Swiss Made" under Swiss law (perhaps with a little creative bookkeeping to boot). This is all a big charade - the CL-888 is as "Swiss" as chow mein. If this movement is Swiss then tofu is Emmental cheese.
The ST-16, by the way, is a perfectly decent, if rather inexpensive movement (I own a "his and hers" pair for which I paid less than $20US for both watches with that movement). It combines the crown winding and integrated automatic bridge of the Miyota with the Seiko "Magic Lever" winding system. I would put it in the same league as the low end Japanese movements, but a significant step below ETA - more on the level of the old FHF (Fontainemelon) movements, much more proletarian. Lower beat (21.6 vs 28K), no fine regulator, lower quality springs, more variation in daily rate, etc. But the though of paying "Swiss" prices for the "Swiss" Claro movement is laughable - those who are attempting to sell these watches as "Swiss" ought to be (but aren't) ashamed.
For those who have trouble acquiring ETA, the Sellita is a perfectly honest Swiss alternative, unlike the Sino-Swiss (more Sino than Swiss) Claro, but Sellita won't sell you a movement for $5 the way Seagull will. In any case it is my understanding that ETA will continue to sell finished complete movements - their beef was with the "high end" makers such as IWC who would buy unassembled movement "kits" from ETA, "refinish" some of the parts and raise the price 10x. Hayek did not see why he should be making his competitor's life easier in this way.
"SWG" <swisswatch...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "SWG" <swisswatch...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
You bet: this is the result of Hayeks' "newly" established very restrictive distribution of ETA movements. Adriatica has always been the "runner up", competing against Atlantic: a Sea fighting against a whole Ocean :-) Sorry for the cheap joke!
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